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- jamesey, on 11/10/2007, -6/+38I love Songbird on windows, but on Ubuntu it's slow and buggy. Use Amarok on Ubuntu
- svivian, on 11/10/2007, -7/+31Yep, Amarok pwns all music players on all systems.
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -0/+21Most of the time it's best to assume that the reader knows nothing.
- ptFoe, on 11/05/2007, -3/+22Ultimate noob guide, even shows you how to download and save it to your disk.
- repawn, on 11/04/2007, -1/+11I would recommend Exaile http://www.exaile.org for those in the Gnome world. Still young but very nice and has iPod and other media device connectors..
- thewump, on 11/02/2007, -2/+11Hard to move away from the elegant simplicity of rhythmbox, which is to me the closest thing to an iTunes clone.
- Leviathan777, on 11/05/2007, -1/+10Amarok. I've been using forever. Stable, powerful, rocks.
- arjie, on 11/02/2007, -0/+9See, I can understand Linux or BSD people being like that, I mean lots of them actually care for the open source ideology so it makes sense that they care. How did you end up a Microsoft fanboy? That defies belief, it's totally whack.
- Jacob, on 11/10/2007, -0/+8media monkey is damn good and I actually bought the full version a while back, the one with unlimited upgrades. However amarok kicks mediamonkeys ass. Amarok works better and has more features and more cool features. If I was still duel booting I would use mediamonkey in windows but I only use linux now so Amarok all the way. And If I do duel boot again at some point it will be after amarok is out for windows and mac so I will be able to stick with it.
- shakin, on 11/10/2007, -0/+8I never used to like Amarok, but after I made a good effort to switch to it (for last.fm) I found that it really does offer a lot.
Music collection management is good and it automatically creates playlists of your favourite songs and your new songs. It integrates well with last.fm and you can play last.fm radio right from Amarok, including the personal radio and neighbourhood radio. Amarok finds and downloads album art for you. It gives you a nice context view for an artist that includes wikipedia info, other albums by the artist, song lyrics for the current song, and a list of similar artists. You can also change it to a winamp-style viewmode if you want a small player window and you can control it directly from the system tray or using keyboard shortcuts.
I'm sure you can find other players with those features, but Amarok puts them all together really well. I can see why people like MediaMonkey and iTunes, but I find it difficult to find any particular reason why those are better. I think it's just personal preference. - Overcyn, on 11/05/2007, -6/+14I never really understood the purpose of songbird. a music player that browses the web? the whole idea seems bad. Rather have a firefox plugin that easily plays and downloads music.
- kaffein, on 11/03/2007, -1/+8Still slow, buggy, and bloated on Windows. I'll stick with foobar2000 for my music playback needs.
- aaronm67, on 11/02/2007, -0/+7One of the main reasons I switched to Linux is because I like Amarok so much (and because iTunes pissed me off one too many times)
- AirRaven, on 11/05/2007, -0/+7Sorry, but no.
Songbird's in Alpha for a reason- it's a buggy, unfinished mess. iTunes, WMP, Exaile, Winamp, and AmaroK hand its ass to it in just about every department.
It can't even retag tracks!
The fact that it runs on XUL doesn't make it the next Firefox. It's a sub-par player at the moment and should be treated as such. When the kinks are ironed out it'll be exceptionally good, but as things stand it just can't stand up to the competition. - CoolGoose, on 11/05/2007, -1/+8Rhythmbox, Banshee, Exaile, Amarok. Why the heck would you want songbird ??!!
- ordminute, on 11/03/2007, -0/+6As the HOWTO clearly states, this is a Developer Release and you have to install it using this way as there is not yet an Ubuntu Package.
Try reading /before/ waving your arms wildy around next time. - MrSpontaneous, on 11/03/2007, -0/+6I recommend everyone stay away from Automatix, lest you want to risk breaking your installation.
- xobecide, on 11/05/2007, -0/+5If you want more Linux users, extend their knowledge by guiding them through EVERY process. You want everyone to use linux and say it's easy, but people still have hard times in Office for XP. And calling them noobs doesn't help... I don't think psychologically it's great to move into a new society knowing you'd be labeled a noob for asking questions.
- zeeky, on 11/05/2007, -1/+6And by iTunes-like, surely you mean very remotely resembles iTunes's three playback buttons...
- andycr512, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5Right, because Microsoft's media player is so much better. No podcast support, crappy music stores, and HORRIBLE syncing behaviour.
- wisam, on 11/02/2007, -4/+9For God's sake use Rhythmbox on Gnome and Amarok on KDE as music jukeboxes. Use mplayer (plain mplayer, no gui) for videos.
- modestmelody, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5Not only could those instructions be cut down to just several lines, but it all stems from the fact that SongBird isn't in the repos or packed as a .deb. If it were a .deb, you would just double click it and install it. If Songbird wanted to make install easy, they'd package it as a .deb and .rpm and would cover almost all distros for double-click installing, the same way software developers use programs which will package what they've written as msi or exe files for Windows install.
- arjie, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4Well, he's assuming that the user has no administrative privileges. This guide will just "always work" because it doesn't assume anything about the user at all.
- meez, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4The same way iTunes sucks ass on Windows but works ok on Mac.
- sigsegfalt, on 11/03/2007, -0/+4under that rationale, Apple and Microsoft stole the idea of an Operating System in the first place.
- arjie, on 11/03/2007, -0/+4If you're okay with having a slightly older version, here's your click-friendly method: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Songbird (assuming Feisty)
- circle26, on 11/03/2007, -0/+4If you haven't tried Listen media player yet, you should definitely check it out. It's a lot like songbird and amarok but it has an itunes-like library browser (which is a lot more functional, IMO).
- flammenwurfer, on 11/03/2007, -0/+4What system are you trying to run Amarok on ? Amarok has never been slow for me and my system is far from up-to-date. And bloated? What's your definition of bloat? It has lots of well implemented features that don't get in the way if you don't use them. That doesn't seem very bloated to me.
- aaronm67, on 11/03/2007, -0/+4With Amarok, you're probably better off using SQLite unless you're using a separate system as a MySQL server.
- BrettFromTibet, on 11/05/2007, -1/+4iTunes is the worst thing that ever happened to desktop music management...the usability is horrible and it is infested with DRM and Apple lock-in enticements... Go Songbird!
- LaughingBovine, on 11/05/2007, -1/+4Are you guys serious?
Every single music feed everywhere online will be accessible through Songbird. It even gives you the option to download all the songs from any website.
Wouldn't you want your music player to be able to get any sort of music in any form easily (read: automagically)? Sounds brilliant to me.
If the Moz team stays as smart as they have been all these years, just wait for 1.0. - MWeather, on 11/05/2007, -0/+3Buried as dumbass. The guide is for Ubuntu.
- neodorian, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3So far Rhythmbox is the only one that lets me add a network directory without mounting it locally.
- arghargh, on 11/03/2007, -2/+5slow buggy and bloated on Windows? IT IS a great iTunes replacement because that's how iTunes runs on my computer...
/winamp - lazyfisherman, on 11/02/2007, -1/+4now that you pointed that out... yes
- aaronm67, on 11/03/2007, -0/+3@AnthonyA7
Unless you have a very large library (20k+ songs), MySQL is overkill. You may add 2 seconds to your startup time for a .001% improvement in performance during track changes. If you're having performance issues with SQLite, make sure you're using Amarok 1.4.7 - they are constantly making speed improvements.
That said, if you've already gone through the trouble to setup MySQL and convert your library, there isn't any reason to stop using it if you've noticed a speed improvement.
The reason I would use MySQL if you have a separate system (i.e. a file server):
-Different computers can use the same database - can be very nice if you have multiple computers
-No reason not to offload one of the most resource intensive parts of Amarok to a system that is likely not using most of its resources.
-It's easier to learn to manipulate/extract data from a MySQL database then SQLite (there are millions of MySQL+Perl/PHP/Ruby tutorials, you wont find nearly as many SQLite tutorials) - cmgarcia, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I'd prefer Rhythmbox to this any day, especially with the Awn Rhythmbox plugin to display album art on your dock.
- Coldkill, on 11/03/2007, -1/+4Trolling, that's all you ever do
- sigsegfalt, on 11/05/2007, -0/+3Amarok looks sweet, but the last thing I want to do is install all the KDE libs to run it. Exaile and Rhythmbox have worked well for me.
- ertz, on 11/05/2007, -1/+3why an iTunes clone when we have great music players such as Banshee, Rhythmbox and Amarok? Besides, I'd like to stick to GTK apps
- smitjel, on 11/05/2007, -0/+2What's with the little fart cloud in all of the images of the songbird logo...what are they trying to say?
- MrSpontaneous, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2but that's intentional.
"Wow, this program runs badly on my Windows system, but runs so well on my friend's Mac. Since its the same program, it has to be my computer's fault! zomg, teh megahertz!" - jackflap, on 11/05/2007, -0/+2I think a lot of people are missing the point. It's ver 0.3 for a reason. Why isn't it a firefox plugin? Well because the record labels are shooting holes in their ship and they're sinking fast, Songbird is providing an open development platform that could possibly provide the underlying infrastructure to the next dominant form of online music business.
We should be all grateful that Songbird has come along and is actually trying to innovate and be cross-platform. What I'd personally like to see is a plug-in that will connect my Songbird library with all my friend's libraries. Distributed sharing and easy-to-use. But who knows, maybe someone will come up with a more 'profitable' idea ;) - wisam, on 11/04/2007, -0/+2"That's the way I see it" - That concludes that all the above is just a personal opinion and not stated as facts.
In my opinion, drop menus is an awful way to navigate music libraries. - matttaylor314, on 11/05/2007, -0/+2Don't knock it till you try it. I've been using it for as long as there's been a release and it's really great. It's nice to have a browser that's so specialized for finding music. Plus, it provides an open interface for opening specialized online music stores (competition for the iTMS). It uses an iTunes-like interface, but it's super-skinnable so you can use other interfaces (none are available right now, that I know of, but you could make one yourself), and the XULrunner platform makes it as extensible as Firefox. In fact, recent changes to their extension format has made it so that Firefox plugins are nearly compatible (they require small changes, apparently). All in all, it's a great program that everyone should try
- Smegzor, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2I don't know why, but Songbird crashes and burns for me on Windows and Linux and so does Amarok. Rhythmbox works well so I've been using that. I'm not too worried about not being able to run Songbird, but not being able to run Amarok is a pain.
- DomZy, on 11/03/2007, -0/+2http://www.listen-project.org/
That's what I use - matttaylor314, on 11/05/2007, -0/+2it's not just for *playing* your old media, it's for *finding new media* and enabling a new, open interface for the changing music market. I suggest everyone check it out. They're doing something really cool
- neko, on 11/03/2007, -0/+2You just see more guides and crap about the clone software because that's what people keep insisting they can't live without.
Look at MPD, the Music Playing Daemon. It acts as a server to play your mp3s. That's all. You can use the provided 'mpc' command line client to control it, or the nice 'gmpc', or any one of several different frontends to assemble playlists, browse your files, and you know, _play music_. And the control client doesn't have to be running on the same machine as the mp3 playing server. It's a very unix-y way of doing it, and I really like it. - linkinpark342, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Read: version 0.3
Though i've tried songbird for Windows and i've gotta say i wouldn't use it on a daily basis. for Linux, amaroK's the way to go -
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