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- Lynn, on 10/12/2007, -13/+54I would rather make OS X look like Ubuntu.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32I don't know why people keep doing this, it looks bad. Being "close" to OS X is lame. Ubuntu looks good as Ubuntu it looks cheap and shoddy when you try to make it look like something it's not.
If you want a Mac, buy a Mac. If you want winders, buy winders. If you want Ubuntu (Gnome, KDE, Fluxbox, whatever) trick it out using it's own strong points. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26We don't have to buy a real OS. We can download one for free.
- ZylogZ80, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25I love it.
Make Ubuntu look... kinda - well - not really like OS X... but, uh, we got the default OS X background... that's uh, something right?
Inf my copy of Ubuntu I keep one panel at the top and a dock-esque panel at the bottom (as I'm used to it), but Gnome's UI design doesn't act like OS X. As a Mac and Ubuntu user I'd have to call this write up just a little absurd. - shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24OK guys, lifelong mac user here, please stop saying 'get a mac.' this is obviously for those who are using Ubuntu and also like os x desktop. Comments like this are why people call mac fans arrogant.. this inevitably devolves into some stupid flamewar and ruins the greatness of diig and /. (see the thread started by dshplus for a fine example). If you're already kickin it in ubuntu you prob. aren't looking to go buy the best and newest HW because you don't have to have it....
I recommend macs to everyone I know, but for reasons i can back up. I also recommend PCs for DIYers... FF for browsing, winamp for jukebox, ipod for mp3 player, ubuntu for nix noobies and Linotype for font managers.... and I stay way away from the ridiculous console wars.
get it? merits, people. - dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18They need to kill that font. That thing is harder to read than War & Peace.
- mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23Not the best. I just run Linux and Windows on my Thinkpad and I have a MacBook. I figure that if you want OSX that bad to mod your whole OS (and it still doesnt look close to authentic), just get the real thing.
- mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17http://www.duggmirror.com/linux_unix/best_guide_to_make_Ubuntu_look_like_Mac_OS_X/
- MarkByers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18"I figure that if you want OSX that bad to mod your whole OS (and it still doesnt look close to authentic), just get the real thing."
What if you can't afford it? Not everyone wants to break the law in order to get what they want. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Ok Mac ladies. Here's your substantiation:
Mac OS X came out in 1999.
http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/history.html
XFCE was written in 1997.
http://linuxgazette.net/issue43/jacobowitz.xfce.html
...and while XFCE is not a strictly Linux GUI, it was originally developed for Linux.
You girls need to get your facts straight before you spout off at someone challenging your religion. - starbird, on 10/12/2007, -9/+22I thought the price issue was no longer valid on the "Macs cost so much more" issue.
- angelp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@ilyag - Maybe you only need to run a few Windows programs every once in a while, but want the Mac experience all of the time. Perfect reason to buy a Mac that runs Windows.
- Darth_tater, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11ubintu is a fine OS... i have used it (i hate gnome) but other than that, it has got to be one of the bset suported distros, great for anybody not shure what they are doing.
- barbobot, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15"except OSX's desktop predates XFCE. And it predates Linux."
It must be nice to live in a shell - mparthas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"I figure that if you want OSX that bad to mod your whole OS (and it still doesnt look close to authentic), just get the real thing."
Thats narrow minded. What if you only want the Look & Feel of Mac OS X but still want to retain Linux backend or Windows for that matter.
By the by, customizing windows manager is hardly the same as "mod the whole OS" - playerx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@triska
Get your facts straight. OSx predating linux is just stupid, stop talking about what you don't know, where was osx on the nitety-nineties? - neko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Not a bad start... Although, I thought there was a Gnome or GTK option somewhere to place the app's menu bar at the top, Mac style?
Plus, if it's just using Gnome's dock bar, I guess it doesn't have the fancypants mouseover-scaling. - bovinity, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"How ironic that you would say that since the OSX desktop is a ripoff of XFCE (a Linux GUI)."
XFCE was inspired by CDE; but you're probably too young to know what CDE is. - ziosatrapo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14If you want to build your OWN pc and have stability and power, and also you want that it's look like an Mac with ubuntu you can
- TheTankengine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Actually it does have the scaling if you use the gdesklet launcher, but unless you use small magnification, very large/hires pics, or SVG pics for the icons, they tend to get rather pixelated when they grow.
Also, XGL enables many mac like features and then some more. You can do expose (scale), wiggly minimize, desktop on a cube (like Virtue in OS X) plus real-time translucency and many other very cool tricks. - transeunte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Can I make my OS look like whatever the $*@# *I* want? Will you please let me?
While I don't fancy the whole "turn your Ubuntu into OSX" thing, I think you are entirely missing the point. You should have dropped your "FOR REAL" attitude on 5th grade. - dualbo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Apple needs to allow OSX to have full visual customization and stop trying to lock everything down to one physical appearance. I'm a life long Mac user and I use my mac 12 + hours a day. I'd love to reduce the eye strain by shading the widows and menu bars to a darker color. I'd love to make the interface more suitable to my work habits. So.. if a Linux build gives you a taste of that customization lets all make a real switch to OPEN SOURCE. I feel that an OS should serve the public and it should take the back seat to the APPS. I love my mac but damn... atleast let me knock out all the juicy gummy buttons!
- ThomasCJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5OS X interface is based off of NEXTSTEP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextstep, with a last stable release of 1995. the OS X GUI _CONCEPT_ predates XFCE
E:f;b - Sairgem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Maybe they just like the theme, but can't stop using Windows.
- m99stump, on 07/29/2008, -0/+4The problem with this is that
1) it hardly looks as good as OS X
2) Gnome does not BEHAVE like OS X, so things like lacking title bars etc really really make no sense in GNOME just to get a look. Same with the Dock - the Dock is effective when combined with expose and CMD H to hide unused windows without killing the app.
I remember skinning XP, but it just made no sense. XP Classic is still the best way to use Windows. trying to put another paradigm into another desktop environment half assedly just isn't worth it.
GNOME is a great desktop environment as is, people should really not futz with something so kludgy as this hackjob. - ratrip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Tech-savvy users are into Ubuntu, because at heart it is Debian, but it works out of the box without futzing around. You get a fully working system in less than an hour, but you don't have to give up the power of GNU/Linux. It still is there, a terminal away. Plus it has excellent hardware support, a kick-ass community and a millionaire putting in cash to really make things happen.
- DarthTurducken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"if you want OSX that bad to mod your whole OS (and it still doesnt look close to authentic), just get the real thing."
If you could mod your significant other to look like Adriana Lima, you might change your mind. - ucg1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I can understand wanting to use Linux (I like Ubuntu way better than OS X), but wanting the look to be better and using OS X as an example. But I would only want to take a few pieces of the OS X GUI, like the fonts, for example. Personally, I find my Linux desktop just fine without having to make it look like another OS, though.
- triska, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@HarryBauzonia
> Ok Mac ladies. Here's your substantiation:
wrong. I'm not sorry to rain on your parade, but before the great renaming to OSX, OSX was called nextstep, reaching back into the 1980s. Learn some OS history before running out on the web to copy & paste factoids.
@playerx
> OSx predating linux is just stupid, stop talking about what
> you don't know, where was osx on the nitety-nineties?
Why, it was being nextstep, the same thing it was also doing in the nineteen eighties. Before Linux. Way before Linux. - spamdies, on 10/12/2007, -15/+19sorry but ubuntu wont make the end user an ***** like owning a mac will. thats like copyrighted or something.
- mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In KDE there is. I tried to convert Kubuntu before. Although it does support the top style menu bar, not all apps (namely Firefox) support it. I had some troubles with window switching too. The Dock did not really support OSX style window management. I eventually scrapped the whole project and went back to Gnome.
- pbjorge12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In reaply to ZyLog...
Just my opinion but the Ubuntu interface has made a HUGE improvment with Dapper Drake - Especially with the color scheme which is definitely not as "gross" as it was before... - ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Apple needs to allow OSX to have full visual customization and stop trying to lock everything down to one physical appearance. "
Well said!! - shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14that myth is pretty frickin old by now.. take a look sometime... the ilttle bit extra you may pay for a mac is gonna get you a machine that lasts a lot longer than the bargain-bin PC.
Same for non-apples. you get what you pay for, so decide what you need and go get it and stop spreading misinformation. - mastercheif, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4 OSX is built of NEXTstep. That was late 1980's. Also, OSX is built off a modified KDE GUI.
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ubuntu with Aiglx and Compiz already looks better than a Mac. Ubuntu and Macs don't work at all like each other regardless of eye candy, so just pick the OS you like using and stick with it. Both have their strong points.
- martz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i dont think there's a technical-based reason for it, it's just popular because it has a good community support system and has gotten a lot of good PR. they have a large focus for making it easy for inexperienced linux people to try it
edit: and what cypher said too... i am one of those linux newbies - alej744, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, whatever. I would rather not try to imitate OS X in Ubuntu. Not because I don't like it (I'm using it to type this), but because I like the whole block brown grayish thing. I don't know why, but the ugliness of Gnome is one of the reasons I love it so much.
- ryderstep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I used to use Debian, but i went to Ubuntu, because it was based on debian. Debian had issues with releasing new kernels, and you had to compile kernels (which i am able to do, but it's a pain in the ass). But overall i started using debian/ubuntu because apt-get rules.
- Mnemonicman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hmm it reminds me I have to reinstall Ubuntu again. Curse the subpar 64bit app support.
All I have to say is why all the hate to people that just want to change their desktop to resemble OS X? Yeah it might be a bit silly to make XP look like OS X but I found that it's not half bad in Ubuntu. It's a decent OS and if someone wants to change the theme to something close to OS X then whatever it's their choice. I've done it to my Ubuntu desktop and it worked out for a while. Just couldn't get used to the buttons being on the other side of the title bar. Yeah I could buy a mac to get the real OS X experience but that's just not possible right now so I have to make do with what I have. Now if someone made a how-to to make Vista look like OS X I can kinda see how the more vocal mac users would have a fit. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5If every assertion on the Internet required proof, you'd, uh, have fewer assertions? IMHO, of course.
- Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I like OpenStep.. does that count as making Linux look like an Apple product? :)
- ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Not so sure about that. I was a Mac user that recently switched to Ubuntu. OSX has many usueability issues compared to Ubuntu.
OSX needs a decent package manager - having to trawl websites to find (untrusted) software to install is ridiculous in 2006. You should be able to search based on keyword and click install. Don't talk to me about Fink, it's a pain in the arse and is mostly broken.
I want free upgrades, and I want to have the option to upgrade *every program* on my system at the same time. No wonder OSX is so slow, there are so many different versions of software all linking against different core libraries on board.
OSX needs a way to cleanly *uninstall* software. OSX systems are a total mess compared to any Ubuntu system, with files scattered all over the place, multiple versions of this and that.
Give me open formats. I don't want a change in company direction to affect whether or not I can even read my own files 10 years down the road. See this 15 year Apple user's reasons for switching to Ubuntu:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/16/juggling-oranges
Give me a less RSI inducing interface. Ubuntu requires less clicks-per-minute I swear. OSX gives me the feeling I'm constantly managing my windows and applications. The finder is partially to blame, which is simply a stupid thing at the best of times.
OSX is SLOW. Try running Ubuntu on an Apple machine and I guarantee it will be faster, especially for encoding/ripping video/music and other CPU intensive tasks.
Give me the flexibility to make the computer my own. OSX is no-one's desktop. Ubuntu is easily personalised. I want a computer all for myself, not some 'Expert's' idea of what computing should be. Everyone is different, and Apple doesn't let ME think different.. - trancelgic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I was hoping that I could find a guide to making my Chevy Trailblazer look like a Honda CRV. Anyone?
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Thats the non-techie method. Nothing challenging about that.
Here is the real techie method. Download a linux distribution and figure everything out to the point that you can make it look like OSX or Windows. You'll learn something new instead of praising the ground that Steve Jobs walks on. - ZylogZ80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just download the ISO and try it in a VM (or better yet install it). It's a really great OS, it's hard to explain why. It's kind of like OS X for me, the first time I used Ubuntu I just "fell in love" with it. Just give it a shot.
- macluvjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@spamdies
Your $100 PC won't run anything without an operating system. If someone can't afford anything more than a $100 PC at a garage sale, how willing would they be to pay $279 for the operating system that I think you're referring to. I have never had a problem finding comparable (usually free) software for the Mac. Just about the same for the Linux box. - stalky14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well I wanted to get a 2nd hand G4 Mac Mini to replace my aging, quite mainstream Duron 1300 BeOS box, on which the available software is really starting to show its age. (My primary is a G3-800 iBook. I'm not a power user, and I'm waiting for Core2 and 10.5 before I spring for a MacBook.) Went to Ebay only to discover the rediculous prices that used (stock!) G4 Mini's are still going for.
So I downloaded Unbutu, based on all the hype it gets on Digg. I am by no means a newbie to any OS or hardware platform, and I 've tried various Linux distros before and I have NEVER EVER gotten a single one to install right the first time through its own installer. There's always either some driver or piece of code missing and all I can find is something I have to compile myself and has a dependency list a mile long, or it will tell me It's installed all the desktop stuff, but every time I log in it just drops me to a prompt and expects me to StartX or whatever and then when I do it gets halfway through the initialization process and bombs out because the window manager and desktop manager can't talk to each other properly for whatever reason, no doubt the solution being to manually edit some arcane script somewhere in the bowels of /etc. It is usually after about 2 or 3 hours of mucking around with this that I say "Screw it!" and go back to BeOS for another year.
I burned the ISO to a disk. No problems. Booted off it. No problems. Boots to a full desktop and not a crappy
character-mapped install app. Nice. Got the graphics card, sound, mouse correct. Sweet! Click the install icon. So far so good. Got 3 gigs free on the hard drive so I'll make a 2.5G root partition and a 512MB swap. Installer says I need a minimum of 2 GB, so I'm good. This is actually going to work! Install. 5 minutes into the install the @#$!@# installer bombs out trying to copy some insignificant Python script and doesn't even give me the option to skip the file. WTF?! At least the other distros I've attempted have gotten me a bootable, albeit crippled system.
I've used preinstalled linuxes before and they're wonderful, but I guess I'm just not masochistic enough to install Linux. I'm back to looking at used Macs again. - spamdies, on 10/12/2007, -11/+13"the ilttle bit extra you may pay for a mac is gonna get you a machine that lasts a lot longer than the bargain-bin PC."
It wont run half the software of a $100 used pc you get at a garage sale though. - ryderstep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Gdesklets launcher does not have an option to always be on top (at least it didn't when i last used it a few months ago). Which made it unusable as an application launcher for me.
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