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- SeanParsons, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14A couple of quick corrections for someone to take care of:
SuSE was originally based on Slackware
Linspire was based on Debian
Mandriva was based on Red Hat
SLAX is based on Slackware
Knoppix STD is based on Knoppix
and actually the longer I look at it, the more I see!!!
Basically, everything is related to either Red Hat, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo, or LFS. Your list is somewhat misleading on some branches and outright wrong on others. Although this is a nice try to classify the distros, there are to many errors to receive a digg. - Lobster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It was created in freemind
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/ - Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Ubuntu isn't unstable, it's based on the unstable Debian fork. There is a difference.
(There is something mighty ***** about comments on Digg..) - monolith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6And your wrong. TSX was the grandaddy of all distro's. Ran it myself I did... till slack came out...
- imrumpf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Excellent, makes this whole distro mess a lot more clean and easier to understand. Hopefully it'll be constantly updated, as the Ubuntu team has already put out a new version called Xubuntu. Other than that I like it a lot!
- The_Decryptor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Well, gentoo is on the image, how much more love does it need?
- eklitzke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7What program was used to make this image? I like it a lot.
- superbot2005, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Slackware is included.
- ceralor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Both wrong. Look RIGHT above you. It looks like FreeMind. And has the graphics of FreeMind as well.
- monolith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Correction. The first distributions where SLS, MCC, and TAMU. I think SLS was first... I switched to slackware because of the X11 graphics libraries. I keep calling SLS TSX for some bone headed reason.
- dimdick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A very nice mind map. Gives a good idea of which distributions are based on which.
He has listed Slax as based on Slackware. And Linspire though originally based on debian has evolved so much that it is better to classify it as a seperate entity. Ditto for Mandriva and SuSE.
I don't see anything written wongly here. Yes not all distros are covered but this is a good start and IMHO worthy of a digg. - aThing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They're talking about RHEL.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Ugly gray background and hard to read font, come on, you know it has to be by a Java-app of some kind.
- orbitalleader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"You're almost correct cabron. Suse sold Slackware but did not base their distro on it. "
You're not close to be correct. Suse never sold Slackware -- Walnut Creek was Slack's long-time distributor and owner when Patrick sold it at one point -- and the original SUSE was indeed based on Slackware. - aThing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Check which tab you're viewing next time.
- orbitalleader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"In parallel to Slackware there was a lesser know distro called Ygdrasil,"
Wrong. Ygradsil preceded Slackware. - acidzebra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Linux is not trying to 'beat' windows. (ps.do you think the web servers of the world run on windows?)
Windows must somehow 'beat' competitors because otherwise they will go out of business.
If linux wouldn't make a cent for anyone ever and would not be used by anyone still the hackers would tinker with it because they want it/need it for something/think it is cool.
This is a crucial difference. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's interesting to see the relationships. Very easy to figure it out and follow it too, and kinda of get a bit of the history. I just wish it was easier to find particular distros, you know the custom ones meant for a specific purpose.. like music editing, video editing. I've been looking for a distro based on game emulators for a long time. If one doesn't exist, I hope someone makes one someday. Turn it on, get a game select screen that works with the controller, parallel game port drivers already loaded, etc. I think I saw a mame distro a while ago, or maybe it was just installing mame. I'm looking more towards NES, genesis, etc though. So you'd select the emulator, then the rom, without mouse or keyboard. Maybe when I learn some l33t c++ skills next semester, I'll write one.. yeah right, heh. Hello World! I'm pretty sure a lot of people would like a game emulator distro. Just a guess though.
- Drywall420, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I agree the multiple Linux distributions is chaos right now but the fact that there are different distros has a very good purpose that will last Linux through the long run which is that each distro has it's own unique innovations that allows Linux to test things in the O.S. market that other software companies don't have the advantage of doing without risking their image. As well it gives people a freedom of choice that they don't have on other platforms, although it is a long intimidating list. Overall though I think my point in summary is it's an operating system that in and of itself is able to survive by a sort of software darwinism where it's innovations and differentiation from the rest will develop qualities for overall survival and hopefully dominance.
- lava, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2So which one's the best one? (hehe..)
- xterminus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3archlinux is based on crux, not LFS. See http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ArchLinux
I appreciate the intention to make the map more human viewable, but this map is so inaccurate that I think it's actually a disservice. Marked Inaccurate. - spacebar14, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3PCLinuxOS duh.
Actually I was rather surprised to see my favorite (not very well known) distro on there! - linuxrebel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Even to go back further. RedHat began because of work it's founder Marc Ewing, had done with/For Slackware. In parallel to Slackware there was a lesser know distro called Ygdrasil, it's contribution was that it was the first on CD and with a crude installer. (prior to that it was basically a LFS style of install) If you go to Distro watch they have a better list of who came from what. Slack is basically the only surviving distro distributed in binary that does not link back to an earlier product (Yes even Debian has some rooting in Slackware).
Plus with the exception of Mandriva(drake) and SuSE this list totally ignores non US distributions. Alzza for example (Korean) was at one point the #1 distro in use in Asia because it was the only one doing CJK. Distro's like Connectiva in South America have had valuable influance as well. - kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3it's more like Red Hat=Fedora Core
- fatsobob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I like it.
- fernando494, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You're almost correct cabron. Suse sold Slackware but did not base their distro on it.
Not much else is based on Slackware. Gentoo is based originally on Debian.
Gringo. - PantherX, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4because none of us has the 10+ hours it would take to even start to figure this whole mess out.
- gregrobson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2It's about time Freemind got some promotion... it's constantly being developed and is a robust and dependable program. The most recent version has added a lot of really useful features such as the insertion of images as nodes, and resizable canvas (for those really large maps, that people like to create).
- indefix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Very enlightening
- ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3True. This map is just inaccurate.
- PantherX, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5No Digg. It starts off well and then cops out by doing things like "Small Distros" and "Security Distros"
That doesn't show how things are related.
Half assed attempt at getting on digg front page, and you idiots fell for it. - Mugros, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Both are wrong. It is FreeMind
- sirmikester, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Lots of errors, and weird classifications for the distros, misleading digg post!
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Christ, Digg screwed up my comments.
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2How is Red Hat based on Fedora?
Bit of a ***** image, to say the least. - yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Freemind rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1It looks like a weeping willow.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2It may have been a half-assed attempt, but it worked.
Marked as inaccurate. - Drywall420, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I think the idea is kind of cool but there are some errors that even I noticed and I have only about 3 years experience with Linux as a desktop user with between Redhat, Fedora Core, and Mandriva. Would be kind of cool to see a finished project that accurately depictes the evolution/branching of the greatest free O.S.
- Quash, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Damn, above post in wrong thread. Sorry, folks.
- orbitalleader, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"ps.do you think the web servers of the world run on windows?)"
Toss out parked (i.e., worthless) domains and you'd be surprised. Remember, not every Apache server runs on BSD, Linux or Sun, but every IIS server runs on Windows. - hchaudh1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1The program is called Thought Mapper. You can find it here:
http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/tsc/sightings/S22.html - dpc5, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1No Archlinux - no digg. Anyway - that map simply sucks. No relations, no connections, nothing special.
- kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2nice, but how Ubuntu is Unstable?
- Lehti, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0My guess would be Graphviz: http://www.graphviz.org/
- sudi, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1If it's wrong...why doesn't someone save the image, correct it and repost it?
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Ignore.
- hchaudh1, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2If you feel this is not correct. You can ask the Author for the Thought Mapper files and correct it. Or roll your own.
- neozeed, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2The fact that there are more than one is why linux will never beat windows. Linus should have stepped up where SLS had to. The rest they say, is history.
- Quash, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Someone told me the difference between Canada and the U.S., once, and I've always remembered it.
As Canada was born, the law (RCMP) went West first and the people followed. As the U.S. was born, the people went first and the law followed. If you've spent time in both countries, you'll see that this really speaks to our different definitions of a civil society and how we have evolved.
As well, Canada spends *less* per capita on health care than the U.S., but still manages to have a universal health care system that covers everyone. It's not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than the one in the U.S., where people lose their houses because they can't afford their medical bills, children are left uninsured and the insurance companies run the show.
Plus, in most studies, if you take the lower American tax rate and add in the average family health insurance premium, Canada's higher taxes works out to be less. And our public hospitals are most cost-effective and more efficiently run than U.S. private hospitals (New England Journal of Medicine, 2002)
The dirty secret is that big corporations like universal health care, as they don't have to pay huge health benefits. Many fiscally conservative (real fiscal conservatives, not the "I want lower taxes" crowd) Republicans actually quietly support universal health care in the U.S.
And we somehow manage to do this while not having a deficit! Yes, we balance our Federal budget every year, have paid off our deficit, plus continue to pay down our debt each year.
And we don't have a class-system for access to post-secondary education, with only the rich being able to afford to send their children to the best schools. This might seem inconsequential but it speaks to how we integrate immigrants in to our country differently in the U.S., which seems consumed with talk of "illegals." The University of Toronto, for example, has the same ethnic diversity as the City of Toronto, which is the most ethnically diverse city in the world. That says a lot when compared to America's xenophobia.
Plus, we don't torture. We don't lock up our citizens indefinitely without any access to lawyers. We don't illegally eavesdrop on our citizens. Our Prime Minister doesn't leak our under cover agents just because he wants to assassinate someone's character, and we don't talk about painting U.S. aircraft as U.N. planes as a way to incite war with Iraq. And unlike most Americans, we wouldn't look the other way if those things happened in our country.
Don't get me wrong - I love the people of America. They're good, kind and decent. I love the landscape of America. It's a beautiful country. But, American foreign and domestic policy is atrocious. It condescends to its people by wrapping all its injustices in the flag and calling people "Un-American" if the engage in dissent. It constantly tries to create "fear of outsiders" in its citizens. It's so sad, really, since Americans genuinely believe they champion democracy, when it's so clear around the world that they care less about democracy than their own self-interests.
In the U.S., you need an "invitation" if you want to go to see the President speak during a national election campaign. Protesters often have to go to "protest areas," often miles away from where the President will be speaking as part of "anti-terrorism measures." What does that say about freedom?
And following 9/11, it took the tremendous amount of goodwill that people felt for America, around the world, and destroyed it within months. It America was a human, it would be a 13 year-old. Poor impulse control, reactive and convinced they know everything
I'll tell you what would happen if America invaded Canada - America would lose for a third time. We've already burned down the White House once in 1812 - careful. It doesn't take an equal amount of soldiers, tanks, aircraft and warship to defeat a paper tiger. It only takes will. -
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