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- jmccorm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Thanks, semi-anonymous Internet poster! You completely validated the story!!!
- Cenobite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15@ unlimitedorb
You actually thought of that and *not* "pyjamas"?
Sheesh... - deviceguru, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15In an interview today with Linux-Watch, SCO CEO Darl McBride said that his company's primary attorneys, Boies, Schiller & Flexner, are indeed trying to serve a subpoena for a deposition on Pamela Jones, the editor of, Groklaw, the legal IT news site. "McBride remains not entirely convinced that Jones is a real person... McBride concluded, 'Pamela, if you read this, please, give me a call. We just want to chat.'"
full story: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7032422646.html - ppan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Conspiracy theories? Give me a break. SCO is trying to drag in PJ for revenge. Knowing Sco's drity deeds and tactics are you going to answer if they call you? Not me!
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15SJVN has met her and she's real. I correspond with her every day. She's real. Don't let Daniel Lyons do his usual SCO shilling...
- cprincipe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Darl McBride: "We just want to talk."
Why do I hear the theme to "The Godfather" playing in the background when I read that? - CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Gee, these are the same people who couldn't find "millions of lines of code" with both hands in 4 years, who couldn't get an address of a multinational corporation right to serve a subpena, and they expect _other people_ to take them seriously?
This is a witch hunt, the purpose of which is to SHUT PJ UP. Once they talk to her, once they make her part of the case, they will accuse her of "contempt of court" or some such nonsense if she writes about their stupidity again.
Groklaw has demonstrated, by simply telling the truth at every step, just how evil SCO and their bankers are. All tyrants _hate_ being exposed to simple truth..
"But mama, McBride the Emperor has no clothes." - Hardcase, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I wouldn't say that a blog entry is exactly the last word on whether or not Pamela Jones is real or not. I think that she's real, but I don't think that Pamela Jones is her real name. And I'm not even going to put on my conspiracy theory hat over the "health break".
- yenster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"...Steven J is such a reputable and non-slanted journalist..."
Yeah, right...like Mr. J has no cred compared to Darl McBride & Co., the same asshats who out-and-out lied to us about "millions of lines of code" in Linux being SCO's intellectual property. Ooops...Novell/IBM/UofC/Old Skool Coders sure shot that lumbering turkey right out of the sky. What's their latest gig? "OH...well, uh...we had a contract! Yeah, that's the ticket...a CONTRACT. And THEY VIOLATED IT!"
There's a term for folks like you, widely used during the Stalinist era in the Soviet Union: "Useful idiot." - totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4SCO. lol.
- Wolfghost, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5jmccorm,
The correct timeline is that PJ announced her break two days before the subpoena. SCO is using PJs illness to grab headlines. More FUD from SCO. - concertina, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5What the hell? Is the entire SCOg legal contingent astroturfing digg today?
PJ is real. There is no evidence, NONE, to suggest she is not, other than some idiot speculation. tSCOg is merely muddying the waters.
Even if she weren't real, it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't change the facts of the case, and it certainly wouldn't make tSCOg less guilty.
The real aim of the subpoena is to stop PJ from posting at groklaw by threatening her anonymity, and to get the momentum of the internet turned away from the anti-SCO crowd. - sanguinemoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't think Darl McBride is real. He's front for pro-Microsoft/anti-Linux parties.
- concertina, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@bulltaco
Groklaw was started by PJ before tSCOg case was even filed.
"I started my blog just before the SCO case was filed. Originally, my purpose was just trying to learn how to blog, because an attorney and I were discussing the possibility of me doing some telecommuting work for him, including work on his blog. I had no knowledge of blogging, so I quickly got Radio, because he used it, and I put up one article to practice, which I never thought anyone in the world would ever see (ironically, about the Grokster decision and how I admired David Boies' Napster legal documents). I was just writing to the air."
Why don't you recognize this for what it is? A clear attempt by SCO to discredit her, founded from desperation. - Hardcase, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@wolfghost: I saw PJ's announcement on Saturday, but according to the Forbes article, the SCO subpoena was attempted "last week". Did I miss something?
- jmccorm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Wolfghost, so you say she wasn't tipped off about a subpoena? Perhaps by a friend in the court, or by other means? Boy, this is getting more and more interesting.
- tsweatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Yes, because Steven J is such a reputable and non-slanted journalist, surely all doubters can rest easily now that he has espoused his opinion
- Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I was thinking PJ and Duncan.
You shouldn't play paintball without goggles!
(I automatically typed 'googles' then and had to change it!) - Hardcase, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ack, wrong reply
- ZetaVu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Companies are always twisting the law to harass their critics, especially when they have vast resources of "other people's money" to waste on the harassment. The law, when it has been called upon, has repeatedly sided with the individuals and protected their rights to be anonymous as long as they have not blatantly broken the law. SCO has never tried to sue PJ for libel, they would lose that case (even worse, they would not even get the case far enough to subpoena records that would identify PJ). Instead they are trying to out her, expose her personal information as a form of revenge against her actions. They are doing this under a legal facade saying they need to depose her.
My guess is they actually do not want to serve her, they'd rather have her brought up by another witness, and then claim that her hiding was part of the IBM conspiracy to cheat them. At this point, they might be looking at the possibility of some kind of trial and are lining up sympathy or reasonable doubt.
I think PJ should protect her identity as much as possible, otherwise she will open herself up to harassment, frivolous lawsuits, possibly worse. People can drain your finances with frivolous lawsuits like the RIAA does in their extortion campaigns. - deviceguru, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3and then there's...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_P._Burdell
;-) - Hardcase, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That's why I'm not putting on my conspiracy theory hat. You're right - I wouldn't answer the door. And especially if it would mean that the world would find out my secret identity!
- Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@CurtHowland
You are absolutely right.
I live about 30 minutes away from SCO and used to work across the street from them. I have several friends who worked there as developers too. From meeting Darl on a couple of occasions and from the things my friends have said, Darl is a complete ass. Actually, most middle to upper management in Utah County, Utah are complete asses.
People like Darl don't like when people see them for what they are and expose it. - CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3In my personal judgement, he's still digging his way out of working for _Linux Insider_.
Outside of L.I., his writing is unabashedly pro-F/OSS. Makes me wonder who bankrolled L.I.... - prisoner24601, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Maybe she feel into the same black hole SCO's business plan got sucked into. Perhaps they are focusing on this desperate search to find one poor paralegal/blogger because they've got a far better chance of finding her than of EVER finding a way back into the black again.
- texanbrit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Unfortunately for SCO no matter what the truth is it has no bearing on their legal woes.
- OneTrueDabe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Not the baby from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_circus ?
- slicedoranges, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2When I read the title, I thought it meant the guy who founded all those gas stations.
- OneTrueDabe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Not the baby from Bil Keane's "Family Circus" comic strip?
- icexe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4i just had this horrible, horrible dream that SCO was right. PJ really is a just an entity made up by IBM lawyers. The press and SCO would literally have a feeding frenzy if something like that were true, and it would be major egg on the face of the Linux community in general and IBM in particular. Image Darl McBride with a smug, satisfied look on his face afterwards.
i dunno, this whole "too sick to post recently" coincidence is a little too uncomfortable. - MrViklund, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I mean, who cares it "she" is a real person, robot or ant? really? :)
- jbtc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Too bad it wasn't CJ! Guess nobody at IBM saw BayWatch
- dannylewis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Hah, I know a Pamela Jones that likes to go by PJ! Although I highly doubt they're the same person. This one I know teaches Accounting. Funny stuff though, when I first saw it I didn't know what to think!
Though she doesn't reveal too much about herself when she teaches--she's very professional. I'd be freaked out if this was really about her! - vainrveenr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1PJ and SCO-hunters Watch :
PJ certainly not in Microsoft-Washington State or SCO-Utah, assuming that she's in the US.
A good guess would be that PJ is wherever the SCO-hunters such as MO'G aren't (besides WA and UT) - concertina, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It wasn't funny the first time. Neither was Family Circus.
- BinDrinkin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Damn thought this was a story about Peter Jackson DOH!
- dasilva333, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6is it just me or did that remind anyone else of that show PJs on FOX, the one that was modeled with clay or something
- TriZz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I thought they were talking about the Projects. Yes, there is a hood out there...in need of your support.
- BullTaco, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5You are right on the spot.
The issue here has more to do with the astro-turfing aspect.
The fact is, until more is known, the appearance that a major corporation is possibly utilizing a so-called independant blogger in order to gain certain advantages in a litigation does exist.
This appearance is reinforced by
1) The proximity of the so called author's .residence to IBM headquarters.
2) The evidence that points to the website having access to a court document that was not the same copy that was made public by the court.
On the other hand, I do not think that there is anything wrong with utilizing a website to obtain evidence related to litigation.
I know that there are certain rules regarding legal teams publicizing information related to a suit.
Again, I do not know if this asto-turfing is going on, but the appearance of astro-turfing does seem to exist.
The importance of this issue is really not the relevant to the merits or outcome of the case at hand. The important
issue is really related to the future engineered "community voices" ' effects on significant legal skirmishes. - MrViklund, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2lol :D
- adidax, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Holy crap. MY name is P.J.
Actually, it's Patrick Jordan, but everyone ever since i was little has called me P.J. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3in soviet russia, whatever.
- Philluminati, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I want proof your real, lol!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2*****, or GTFO!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Yes there is and that is me.
- capiCrimm, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2damnit. PJ, looks a hell of a lot like PI in the wrong font.
- Pr0v0st, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Pictures or she's not real!
- jmccorm, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4Why does it matter if we believe that PJ is a real person or not? What I'm more concerned about is PJ dodging a process server and pretending she's taking a break. (Don't feed me that line again. I didn't believe it the first time.) That *does* make me wonder exactly what she has to hide from SCO. (Some spoon feeding from IBM is my guess.)
Mind you, I like Pamela and what not. It just seems deceptive. (The smell test, as it were.) - unlimitedorb, on 10/12/2007, -25/+4When I think of PJ I think of "player jumping," you know when your standing there fighting another person and some noob interrupts the fight...
Yeah, I play games a little too much.


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