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- digduality2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16i give it a year or two until yahoo ***** all over zimbra like they have with all their other acquisitions.
- chalkboy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18I hope this does not change zimbra for the bad. I love this app and will be sad if I have to change to something else because yahoo tries to inject to much of its self into it.
- Jeffler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Sucks!
- alphex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12*****.
I'm literally just starting the process of trying to convince my work place to switch to Zimbra because we have a huge cross platform base. (.edu environment). Knowing EXACTLY what large companies do to good products like this makes me really really uncomfortable.
The last thing I want is for Yahoo to be data mining my email through an application I paid for. I would get google apps on my network as soon as I could (I unfortunately do not make all the decisions) except for the fact that they host it, they mine it, they know it.
Inside of the firewall, we want as much collaboration and sharing as possible, but if Yahoo wants to do what google does and make it a hosted application and have access to the content. well, ***** that.
I think Zimbra is an amazing application, but this shakes my feelings on investing in it. - Jeffler, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11The
- Jeffler, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11Comment
- suxmonkey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Now we just need Google to acquire Yahoo and it'll be all over ....
- SlvrEagle23, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Maybe some parts of the Yahoo system are *****, but I've gotta admit they're certainly taking great strides in assisting web developers with some of the more mundane, crappy duties of web site production and management. Their UI system is pretty neat really. It's not perfect but it's neat. So in my mind, if Yahoo's executives have done anything to make us hate the company, their developers have made up for it.
Besides, I really don't see Yahoo dying any time soon. It obviously hasn't "jumped the shark" like Netscape with their Digg-esque homepage, and Alexa still ranks it as the #1 most heavily trafficked site network on the web today. What did Yahoo do wrong anyway? - thripper, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6***** ! I liked zimbra. Yahoo it's going to screw it . they really don't seem to get the whole 2.0 thingie right
- Jeffler, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11System
- CircleFusion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Yeah, I really hope that Zimbra can continue to improve on being an Exchange alternative, rather than being incorporated into a Yahoo plan to provide web apps and compete with Google/Microsoft on that front. I know that Zimbra's biggest feature was its webmail client. From my understanding, It was lacking in terms of difficulty in implementation, using a flaky outlook plugin, and havinglack of full exchange features. I would love it if Yahoo were hoping to improve those aspects of Zimbra, but I have my doubts.
- sirhomer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5If so it'll be forked. The large majority of Zimbra is open source.
- chalkboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Zimbra is NOT a hosted application. I hope they do not try to turn it into one. If they do then they will screw it up because most of the people that use it do not want a hosted app.
- bazzz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Bad news for Scalix. But they missed the game anyway... The community has been waiting for more than a year now for the announced SyncML or Windows-ActiveSync solution (the later is included with Zimbra imho). What's a modern groupware with near ZERO mobile device integration (and forget that Notify ***** - you need to run that component of your Linux groupware on WINOWS? WTF?)
- Ossuary, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3My thoughts exactly. We too were looking at it. Now I am guessing we would have to look forward to ***** tie-ins to Yahoo services. Not what you want with Gov/Edu setups. Chriiiiiiiiiist.
- fthead9, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Nice payday for the Zimbra team. Congrats and good luck with the integration.
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Zimbra is open source. Can't you compile it and run your own binary on your own server?
- skinturtle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Anytime anything corporate assimilates anything...what used to be good turns into *****.
- jcardinal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I was beginning to wonder about Yahoo! We've only been hearing about Google acqs for the past year.
- Lucky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Zimbra is great we deployed it 4-5 months ago and I'm now hoping that Yahoo! Doesn't! *****! It! Up!
Finally we have Mac and PC users able to work together, schedule meetings, view the same address book data, 5.0 promises it's own IM server and also BES integration (assuming Yahoo! allow all this) - CircleFusion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Well, first, Google apps are a hosted service provided by Google, and it includes various office apps, but also includes the Gmail service and groupware features.
A more direct comparison to Google apps is Zoho.
Zimbra is a server application (you download and install it on your own server) that competes with MS Exchange server. It provides a mail server with groupware features like shared calendars and shared address books. Zimbra highly touts their webmail client, but they've gotten flack for not having a solid plugin to get Outlook to work with their mail server. They have an Outlook plugin, but it's buggy (from what I've read). Evidently, most of Zimbra is offered as open source, but there are advanced features (including the Outlook plugin) that are not open source.
As someone posted above (somewhere)...if Yahoo screws up Zimbra in some way, then someone will likely fork the existing open source code into a new project. - snotrokit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Mixed feelings about this one. I really hope Yahoo keeps things going with Zimbra, and injects some cash into it. Zimbra is a fantastic suite, been using it for a long time now. Congrats guys!! (I hope)
- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Number of users does not equate to quality. Gmail is lightyears ahead of Yahoo mail. Yahoo maps just recently started catching up to the coolness of Google Maps. Yahoo's IM application is superior. However, I am a subscriber to Yahoo's music service and I must say that while the service is cool, the jukebox application is an absolute piece of *****. It is a bloated pig that still acts like it's a beta release.
- travbrack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2oh no way that never happens when a large corporation acquires a software package...*cough* winamp *cough
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3So Flickr and del.icio.us is shyt then right ?
- CommodoreZBT, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Does Google Apps have an Exchange server replacement? I think Zimbra is the next up and comer. Definitely a contender to give M$ Exchange a run for their money. For those who don't know what it is, or want to try it out, theres a great writeup at http://www.asktheadmin.com/2007/08/test-drive-zimbra-collaboration-suite.html . I've tried it and it is TIGHT. Defnitely worth reading about and trying out, at teh very least. And best of all, It's FREE.. not just to try it out, but to own and use it!!!
- damm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Quite frankly, after having recently left my job and not having to deal with Zimbra anymore... I find this a bit ironic... Although I was personally not looking forward to Zimbra 5... as there was some major lacking features... Perhaps Yahoo will do it some good... but I imagine Yahoo bought it for a reason, it will use it for that and let it be done.
- themoose, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I think you'll find that microsoft are primarily a software manufacturer wheras google and yahoo are not. If anything, that'd mean the death of msn.
- faxxy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2How does Zimbra compare to Google Apps?
- kingygk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Its funny my alma mater just completed a major web email upgrade with zimbra. myplymouth.edu is now powered by yahoo mail ha ha!
- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Okay, so maybe not everything turns to *****. :)
Fair point. - daftman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1call it woman intuition
- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4Exactly. Yahoo is ***** and anything it touches is *****. Zimbra will now turn to *****, unfortunately. It will end up so bloated and slow that it will be unusable.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Fvcked half the diggers mothers
- batfastad, on 11/13/2007, -0/+0I was really disappointed to here of this news a while back. Like many people I've been watching Zimbra get better and better over the past 18 months.
We're a small business currently running Exchange SBS 2003 and I was totally preparing to get Zimbra and be running that instead.
Now I think I'll be waiting for another 6-12 months to see how this pans out.
I'm hoping that Zimbra will continue to be an autonomous product. I can live with Yahoo integrating many features into their free web apps, and even offering a hosted Zimbra service for companies.
But so long as the stand-alone version continues development so we can run our own Zimbra servers.
Also they better not rename it to Yahoo Work Share or something just as dumbass... imagine trying to tell companies you want them to move from Exchange to Yahoo Collaboration Server - I'd get laughed out of meetings! - putera79, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Zimbra is an open source collaboration and messaging suite. Sort of an Microsoft Exchange Killer Apps. Simple explanation and video here www.linuxdomination.com. They've won an absolutely many awards. I myself never seen anything like it before.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I'm really amused by all the complete idiots who jump to the conclusion that just because a major corporation is buying a smaller company that the small company's product is going to *****. If Google was the one who had acquired this company, they'd be plastering ads all over it. Take off your ***** google glasses and grow the ***** up.
- spuddy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Yeah! Just like they messed up Flickr and delicious! Oh, wait...they're a lot better since they've been acquired
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Is
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1End
- raymanunique, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3Let the hosted Enterprise App war begin! Now, who's for a bit of Zoho?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Spoken like a true pathetic blind sheep.
Other than search, Yahoo leads Google in everything else. MAps. E-mail. Instant Messaging. Tey mus be doing something right. Or Google is doing LOTS wrong, since other than searcdh and ad sense, NOTHING they have come up with themselves have been anything mre than a tiny, insignificant bit player in the market. - ajays, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0"They don't get the whole 2.0 thingie"...
Like Flickr? One of the pioneers of this "2.0 thingie" that they bought 2.5 years ago? - all13d, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Fail.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0To the "coolness". LISTEN TO YOURSELF! And then realize that no matter HOW stupid you make yourself sound, Sergey will never let you suck him off.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Are you an idiot? Name me some of the acquistions that they've ***** up? Flikr is as good as any site out there.
- sp1tfire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0I love Zimbra, always admired its innovation. I'm unsure how this Y! acquisition leaves me feeling, after Y! has a very poor track record in converting its acquisitions into true success stories. Yahoo! head to head with Google Apps? What about Postini the email filtering company bought by Google, is email the latest frontier overlooked over the years?
- ajays, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Have you looked at GMail in the past, oh, *ever since it launched* ? Have you noticed the ads that are SPECIFICALLY targeted to your email content?
Now compare that with the ads you see in Yahoo's email.
Yahoo has said they won't be trolling through your email. Google has been doing it for years. Why the blinders? - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1For Us All
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