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- betamaxman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14How in the devil would one's entire system ever be jeopardized by a graphics card driver, when all one has to do is change the driver from nvidia to nv in their xorg config and install a different driver.
open or not, nvidia have long provided better support for their cards than ati. - schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17This was posted a few times earlier. NVidia really ought to follow AMD's and Intel's example now that they are both open sourcing their drivers. Until then, NVidia will continue to have binary blobs that jeopardise one's entire system once in a few months.
- sirhomer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Having open source drivers is a pragmatic thing. For one X.org developers wouldn't have to wait on Nvidia everytime to catch up. Just one of many reasons open source drivers are better for strictly pragmatic reasons.
- suppressingfire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Which is exactly why the driver should be opensource right in an xorg git repository. sirhomer said X.org devs wouldn't have to wait, but obviously he should have said that -users- are the ones that need to wait. Either way, it sucks for nVidia's customers (like me) that choose to run Linux.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7amd/ati just pushed them into a corner, i don't think we'll have to wait long for those open source drivers.
- mendicant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Well, AMD/ATI have NOT open sourced their drivers. They have only opened up all of their specs and documents, as welll as engineers for questions. AMD/ATI's drivers are still closed source, but the techincal documentation that was previously hidden is now open making it much easier for the OSS community to replicate those drivers in a separate open source driver (they can read the specs instead of reverse engineering the cards now).
But still, it would be nice of nVidia would do that too. - mendicant, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5At least it can be said for nVidia that although they aren't opening up their documentation, they sure are working hard to keep their linux drivers up to date with the rapid development being done with Xorg/Compiz/etc these days.
- armin76, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Yeah, but only for those cards supported by the 100.x.x driver series.
- sukimashita, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"Improved GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap out-of-memory handling."
Now this is one of a heck of positive change! It appears the black window bug with Compiz has been fixed (or at least pushed to a huge amount of windows required to fill video ram)! Great News! - mucnix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Why do you want 3d acceleration on your file server?
- cg0def, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2ok just because ati used to have horrible linux support does not mean that nvidia was doing a great job. Their linux driver has alwasy been several steps behind the windows one and as a matter of fact still is. Plus now that all the specs for ATI hardware is released I wouldn't be surprised if ATI actually takes the lead.
- Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Why is your file server running a GUI? Servers are usually headless.
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21: FGLRX
2: They can't release the documentation on chips they don't exclusively own the IP to. The big deal with the FGLRX driver is that it contains so much cruft from companies outside of ATi that it can't just release the source, and any documentation on those chips would have to be written specifically for the OSS community and sanitized per ATi/AMD legal. All of this takes time.
We were in desperate need for a R500/R600 driver, more so than our need for open R300 and older drivers (because we have FGLRX and reverse engineered open drivers already for many of those cards). DAAMiT has already confirmed that it intends to release documentation for the older cards as well, but priorities are a big concern. And of course, taking developers off writing drivers so they can drum up documentation for release means the closed driver development gets behind.
It's a delicate balance, but at least AMD is trying. More than what can be said for nVidia at this point. - cg0def, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2more over what do you care about 3D effects on a file server or any kind of server for that matter. I don't use 3D even on my workstation.... oh and dropping off older geforce support is really gay regardless of how cheap newer boards are.
- Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I used to have this problem all the time with my old 6200. Great to see its fixed.
- mooninite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3If you don't have a GeForce FX5200 ($10) or higher then you shouldn't even be using digg. Don't tell me you don't have $10 when you are paying $50+ for Internet.
- OrangeTide, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm just happy they actively support Linux at all. Big change from when I first started using Linux over a decade ago.
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No more black windows? Thank *****. My laptop would run compiz just fine for like a minute and then the desktop would start to ***** and the windows went black. Glad to see them working on it because it's the only thing keeping my old lappy from kicking ass with linux.
- mythicflux, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually AMD is only providing specs for the R500 and R600 series cards. This is to say that they are only supporting new cards with the OSS driver. Older cards will still have to rely on their FGLX(?) driver. What AMD/ATI said was more "like screw it we've had issues in the past writing drivers for our older cards we're going to open up our new products, feel free to buy them so you can get the latest and greatest"
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Nope, that was actually written mostly by Novell, not AMD.
- mucnix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You're right, but I think a typical Windows user would feel that their entire computer was broken if all they got was a DOS prompt when they restarted their computer.
- ninjasquirrel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Nope, they actually have released an open source driver...
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=842&num=1 - 0xception, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Yeah, Its interesting to see the turn on Nvidia the community (or at least some in the digg community have had) ... just a few months ago AMD/ATI figured out that their drivers sucked, and that almost no major work had been done on it for years .... so after years of poor support they just say "screw it" w/ their older devices and open sourced ... yes that's a great move. But geezz you would think that people would remember quality difference nvidia's driver has had compared to that of the previous fglrx driver... give Nvidia a break, and a little time to decided their next move :)
Plus the AMD/ATI drivers (so far as i've heard) are only going to be open source/specs for the lower end/out dated cards and they are still going to produce the binary blobs for users who want all the features. - giid, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1My linux machine with a GeForce 3 runs everything fantastic... well it used to until Debian pushed xorg 7.3 out.
It's not a matter of spending the $10, it's the matter of having to buy the card, wait for it to get here, shut down my file server, install the card, start the server back up, install newer drives, etc. - dasunst3r, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I knew nVidia would pull through.
- baalzebub, on 10/10/2007, -9/+6nvidia is in business to sell video cards, & chipsets for motherboards, dont you think it is in Nvidia's best interest to make good quality drivers for their products even for Linux too? of course they are going to continue development on them and patch security holes & fix bugs...
GNU/FOSS zealots are so annoying, it is this mindset that makes me lean towards Linus's philosophy of being more pragmatic & Practical and look upon idealists like RMS as just plain annoying, i like RMS better when he is quiet and coding away on some computer somewhere unseen... - masterdbugger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41845http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41845
Answer your question? - theshaze, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1Is this latest XORG going to be included with the upcoming Whorey edition of Ubuntu?
- baalzebub, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1xorg developers dont have to wait you idiot, xorg builds X, and nvidia follows behind with a third party driver, if anyone does any waiting it is nvidia's customers that have to wait for nvidia to release new drivers...
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