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- pcrow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10It's not a problem with the kernel ABI changing. It's the X ABI. Much of the driver is a big binary blob. Yes, a small portion is built from source, but apparently that doesn't help with this change.
- nedzeve, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Yes, it's a binary driver. What you're compiling for your custom kernel is a wrapper.
- cbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Are you for real? Debian logo and all on your little digg account, and you don't understand or haven't even HEARD that the nVidia and ATI drivers are not open source? Like Nedzeve pointed out, any code you compile is simply a wrapper for the kernel; this code interfaces the kernel with a binary drive. It's a good way to do a binary driver, since as you said, it allows you to run the driver against many kernel versions.
But it's not open. - jakethecake, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6old news. Phoronix published this on August 29, 2007.
"X.Org 7.3 & NVIDIA Binary Drivers"
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjAxNQ
"X.Org 7.3 is being released today and with that said there will be issues for those of you who immediately jump on the X.Org 7.3 bandwagon and depend upon the proprietary display drivers. For NVIDIA users, there will be a compatibility issue with the ABI for X.Org 7.3. The latest mainline drivers (i.e. 100.14.11) will not run unless you pass the -ignoreABI argument. The NVIDIA legacy drivers will run without the ABI option. " - jeffeb3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6so you just troll the Linux section and add cute little comments? Not the way I'd spend my time, but hey, to each their own.
- goyney, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Hopefully they fix this soon. I can't run any OpenGL apps without X crashed and being relaunched right now. =/
- debuggercll, on 10/10/2007, -8/+11Like YOU'RE grammar.
- burty89, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Thats exactly the reason binary drivers are bad: the open source projects (Xorg in this case but also others like Compiz) will always be stuck waiting for the binary blobs to be updated before they can progress...
I only hope NVidia will now open up some specs since both Intel & ATI/AMD have now done so. - neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3In the article they said the next release will fix this.
- jeffeb3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Let's use this in a sentence.
"You're like a grammar Nazi, except your mother dropped you as a child." - SteveMax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3To be fair, it's not nVidia's fault that the ABI changed; they don't need to have compatibility with unreleased X versions.
Of course, if they had chosen to open source their drivers, this wouldn't be a problem... - cbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3You *could* just go back to 7.2 until this is resolved, you know. The Latest and Greatest isn't always the Best, at least not right away.
- paloooz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Obviously it was intentional. I don't know why he got dugg down.
- oobuntu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1After spending a couple of hours last night on nvidia driver issues, (trying to get compiz fusion working) I'll be glad if the nouveau project ever reaches a good level so that kernel upgrades (and other stuff) won't break my nvidia drivers!
- LordVoldemort, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Gentoo says..... you guys are slow.
- dasunst3r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Fortunately, nVidia has a month or so before Gutsy, openSUSE 7.3, and a few other distributions. They haven't released a driver since 6/21, so I would bet they're working on it.
- saxon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Word up brother!
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http://rapeporn23.eamped.com/ - chriscamacho, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0from what I understand this has been tracked down to a patch in xorg, something to do with ??compiz clipping?? anyhow
recompile Xorg with minimal patches and the problem goes away... - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0hoping Envy will have this taken care of...
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http://www.TopNotchCarpentry.com - cbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -8/+6Like you are grammar?
- paloooz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Yeah, talk about failure.
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Arg. Disable Composite Extenstions? Don't those allow Compiz and Compiz Fusion to work? If so, I hope nVidia fixes this soon.
- darkray77, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1"English, *****! Do you speak it?" ... sorry, it's been a long day ...
- Scotepi, on 10/10/2007, -13/+1font page with 30 diggs and 0 comments? digg, your getting slow
- stargatesteve, on 10/10/2007, -21/+5what do you mean binary drivers??? just run the nvidia installation script (with the --extract or whatever-it-is option)
the source is right there! The nvidia installation scripts aren't binary, they can't be. otherwise they might work with just one kernel version. The script builds the driver against the source code for the currntly running kernel, then inserts the module into the kernel. - magni, on 10/10/2007, -18/+1 Uh, George Bush sucks Ron Paul rules?
- FKnight, on 10/10/2007, -32/+1Linux Sucks,.
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