What is Digg?82 Comments
- Yez70, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37@kevin45
You mean like Digg?
That site has fewer ads than Digg does. I guess people are supposed to run all their websites and blogs for free, just for you?
If you don't like the ads, get AdBlock, don't make us listen to you whine - because we hate whiners like you even more. - IanPhillips, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33Any wordpress site that I can open when it is on the front page, gets a digg in my book.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21@kevin45:
There are two Google AdSense ads on that site. Digg has more ads, and they're picture ads, too. - GTPilot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19i don't think most people want to pay $80 a month for a blog.
- quickgold192, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21i see what you did there
- aldudturn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23Let's see how long it takes to crash his server..
- gmagana, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Reading the page is like talking to a good c++ programmer: He acts like an *****, but the info is good... So you want to get the hell out of there as soon as you can.
- Ransomowris, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22This sounds like link-baiting. Digg me down if I'm wrong, but I think it's pretty suspicious.
Anyways, let's see if it will survive the front page. - duhblow7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16That's actually a good technical write up. I'm surprised there are so many complaints about it.
He actually has some technical data; instead of just "tweak your SQL server", he actually explains what he tweaked and why. Kudo's to the author for the time spent. - samnetwork, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15If you had AdblockPlus, then...
- jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15You are rediculous. That is the fastest I think a front page digg site has ever loaded for me.
- armbar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14"You are rediculous."
Yeah, why does everyone have to be diculous multiple times these days? Once should be enough for anybody. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+11Nearly 7 hours in, the server is fine. I navigated a bit through his blog and pages were loading very quickly showing no signs of any strain. I'd say he definitely knows what he's talking about - his blog is running smoothly under a heavy load.
- jdavid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11i did not even see that link till you pointed it out, whos the spammer now?
- gregm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Did you read the story?
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@kevin45:
the linked blog post is composed of entirely original content, and rather informative content at that. it's not a copy-n-pasted article from another site, and it doesn't even endorse the one commercial site linked to in the post (can you read?). how is the author trying to "lure" people in other than by posting interesting content? his post is actually a good example of the kind of user-generated content people should be submitting to digg, rather than the myriad of useless blog spam and overt online ads that often get submitted instead. did you even bother to look at the page at all? you need to go take your meds or something because the linked blog is the exact opposite of what you claim it to be.
@MtnXfreerider:
you clearly don't know anything about running your own web server. the specs for his sever aren't impressive at all for a modern dedicated server. most professional web hosts use about 4 times that amount of RAM and dual xeons or dual core opterons. the author gives a very detailed overview of how to optimize MySQL, PHP, and Apache to minimize request processing time, in addition to some tips on network hardware setup. this ought to be done regardless of how powerful your server is or how much traffic you normally get.
and what makes you think that a site that normally gets no traffic wouldn't be crashed by a sudden spike in traffic because of the digg effect? please stop talking out of your ass as you have no idea what you're talking about. this blog does an excellent job at dispelling the idea that it's impossible for a site running wordpress to handling digg traffic and shows you what can be done on modest hardware to handle large request volume by reducing request processing time. compared to the info he's provided, your comments are useless and utterly stupid (what kind of web admin settles for just making users hit refresh until the page loads?). - fourcylthrill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why would anyone run to Survive Digg? They've gotten the digg effect on multiple occasions.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Discard ICMP. DOS averted.
- univers3man, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Amazing. It still up, definitely a digg for me. Maybe it is just word press user ignorance.
- TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6When they start offering a service people actually want with that name, then it will be copyright infringement. Until then, they are nothing.
- kensavage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Dgenx, why would you want to DOS his site. he wrote us quality content on how to keep a wordpress site up.
So shut your little grade school bitch mouth. - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5flashman, what plugins do you use? MySQL seems to be the worst bottleneck for WordPress.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Dugg for once again establishing that the PEBKAC as it usually does. People didn't honestly believe it was Wordpress that was at fault for all the crumbling blogs surely.
- timf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There are definitely more Wordpress blogs who managed to stay up after hitting the front page.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Now almost 4 hours, I think he completely survived it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4When you evil diggers hotlinked the portman pics it went down because you satured my 100mbs (read crappy) link. Each pic was 1.x MB. CPU load didn't hit anything, and once I moved the pics to an image server offsite things were lovely :D
- jues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Our site, http://bfish.xaedalus.net/, recently got featured on Digg, http://digg.com/software/Stay_in_Sync_with_GCal_and_Thunderbird and Slashdot, http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/14/1716242
Although the Wordpress install did not survive the initial digging (thankfully, duggmirror caught it perfectly), my then tackled the site's config, tweaking Apache and MySQL and installing WP-Cache and we survived a 2 day long slashdotting. All this on a 160mb RAM Virtual Machine - I kid you not - http://omicron.xaedalus.net/phpsysinfo/
On a related note, has anyone else noticed that the Digg effect is like a mad rush of people, like the opening of a new Primark or Ikea whereas the Slashdot effect is more akin to a seriously busy department store like Selfridges? Oh never mind, maybe it's just me... - Piggycow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Just want to see his crash
- RBasil, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7You have to hand it to the guy. First wordpress blog I've seen to survive a front page story so far. Dugg.
- fourcylthrill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, tutorialsninjas.net wrote that article and didn't survive. Also theseminal.com got the digg effect.
http://tutorialninjas.net/2007/04/01/surviving-digg/
http://www.theseminal.com/2007/03/27/hip-hop-isnt-dying-it-just-sucks/
both killed - Firehed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Most sites that go down aren't using $80/month hosting service, and probably don't have the WP-Cache plugin installed either. Of course, the latter is free, but sites that are getting dugg frequently are going to be able to afford that kind of service, not the $6/month I'm using. Some day, I'll write something worthwhile and see what happens.
- fogster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why? That's really lame. He's not arguing that his site is impossible to bring down, he's arguing that it can handle a high traffic load. Of course bombarding it with traffic would bring it down. (Although frankly, even my pitiful little 'spare' server could handle the 1 request a second you're proposing.)
- fogster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's slower than something fast?
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i don't see that happening. if you read the article it's pretty obvious he knows what he's doing, even though his server specs aren't particularly impressive.
- masalaguru, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I get more than a million hits a day while my site streams video content.
And my wordpress install handles this without a hiccup (cant say the same about my bandwidth). - SCARECR0W, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yes, this article is a rehash of things most people should know anyways but there is a ton of good info there and should be heeded if you wish to submit your site to Digg. I've had my site posted (http://toddlambert.com) on Digg several times and I've never gone down either - up to 20k uniques plus more from all the other sites that are digg clones, etc.. I host on 1and1.com and their basic $30 a month plan - just use these tips and you should be fine. If you go down, even after using these, then you need to find another host.
- krynsky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This info is a few days late for me since I use Wordpress for my site and felt the pain after hitting the front page on Sunday. I went down for a little but with the help of my host was able to debug a bad plugin and quickly installed WP-Cache and was back up running fine after that. I think the fact that he is lean on plugins, running on a dedicated server along with his mysql tuning, caching tips and other tweaks make all the difference. I can appreciate his effort.
He has also developed several plugins of which the Lifestreaming one is the coolest. - vann, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You have basically three options:
1) Use a bottom-end, managed service like Dreamhost.
2) Use a dedicated server and configure it properly.
3) Use something like Amazon's EC2. - marcamillion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2WoW. Front page, still going and still up and fast? Interesting.
- freehunter, on 11/02/2007, -5/+7If you go to the survive digg website and click on features, it has the digg logo on some of the items. Copyright infringement?
- fourcylthrill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oops, I just noticed it wasn't the tutorialninjas.net article that got the digg effect. It was this article from theseminal.com that crashed the survive digg servers.
http://www.theseminal.com/2007/03/31/how-not-to-deal-with-a-digg/ - Shabatoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@kevin45
HAHA! You have been completely buried because you are not welcome on the internet...now get out of here! - smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2a lot of wordpress blogs make the digg frontpage and survive without a hiccup. if you used shared hosting from professional web hosts like dreamhost you won't have a problem even without optimizing for performance. it's not like the problem is specific to wordpress since the wordpress errors that people see 99% of the time are simply from the mysql server going down. you just don't know the site you're looking at is running wordpress unless the mysql does go down and it displays a wordpress error page. wordpress is a free open source blogging application that's quite popular and it doesn't advertise itself so it's hard to tell when a blog is running it. i found it when searching for a free alternative to typepad.
the tips offered in the blog are actually pretty useful for any web admin/developer, not just those running wordpress. the optimization techniques for php/apache/mysql are pretty simple and very effective aside from writing efficient php code and caching pages/mysql requests. - smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2almost all wordpress errors that people on digg see are due to the mysql server crapping out from the high volume of requests, and in all likelihood if the site were running any other mysql-based CMS the mysql server would still have crashed (just without showing the wordpress logo). so turning on query caching would be the best way to solve this problem other than upgrading the hardware on your mysql server. this addresses 99% of all the wordpress errors that people bitch about since the application itself is written pretty well and is rather efficient. if you really need the added efficiency, you can use the wordpress page caching plugin that he also mentions, but generally script execution is not a problem on most wordpress blogs.
if you have a decent professional web host though, you don't really have to worry about the mysql server crashing from the digg effect unless your mysql code is written really poorly. a lot of ignorant diggers just have the distorted perception that wordpress causes servers to crash because they don't recognize that most of the wordpress blogs that they visit are running wordpress unless the mysql server happens to crash and the wordpress error page is displayed. i guarantee that if you use wordpress' hosted blog service that you can easily handle digg traffic. personally i use dreamhost, and i know that their shared hosting servers have no probably handling digg traffic either.
people complaining about wordpress crashing usually haven't used the application themselves and know nothing about running a high volume website. recommending ***** webhosts like godaddy that drop connections whenever usage/traffic peaks is not a viable solution for any serious web developer/admin. the type of admin/developer this page is aimed towards would not be using such a ***** service anyway, as it seems to be geared towards people who pay for co-loc/dedicated hosting or run their own servers. - cliquee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1will read that article some other time...
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1especially when 99% of the time it clearly says that the problem was not being able to establish a connection with the mysql server--so it woulda happened regardless of the CMS being used. the tip for caching mysql queries should help with most of those wordpress blogs and other sites as well.
people seem to always stop reading right after "wordpress error" and then return to digg to make comments like "OMG! Wordpress is teh sux again!!!!!111" - FakeOutdoorsman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I used to use Elliot's WP-Hashcash plugin until Akismet came along.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm using a $2.99/month plan on 1and1 and it's a little slow under zero load, however the uptime is flawless and the quotas are very generous. I find the FTP access excruciating, though, since each file takes about 4 seconds to negotiate. Single files transfer very quickly but things like WordPress take forever to upload (I don't get shell access so I have to untar locally).
Your load time seems a bit slow as well, considering your minimal theme. However, you don't seem to be using WP-Cache. How would you rate your speed and satisfaction with 1and1? Slow but steady?
Very nice web design btw. I love that top horizontal bar. - concept, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2does wp-cache cache comments as well, or just the post data?
thanks -
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