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- Cryptocracy, on 08/17/2008, -3/+89I have a dual boot, xp and linux. they both have their advantages and disses.
- LANjackal, on 04/15/2008, -10/+65Or, you could just run both Vista and Linux, which is what I do ... No need to stick with one OS only.
- cquinnd, on 04/15/2008, -3/+47Translation: I know less about Vista than I know about that Linux/Ubuntu thingy.
- crackah, on 04/15/2008, -12/+40*yawn* Okay, cool. Just throw it on the pile with all the other year of linux, try linux, linux rocks etc etc articles. Seriously, its getting boring now.
- TeacherOfHeroes, on 04/15/2008, -2/+29Could the fact that Hardy Heron is still a beta release be the cause of your woes? Certainly you could have predicted that using software that is explicitly branded as unfinished would mean dealing with some problems.
If you really want to help make things better, you could always file a bug report, as the sound failure is probably an issue with the new PulseAudio sound system. - Falldog, on 04/15/2008, -5/+30Sorry, this is Digg. You're not allowed to appreciate competing pieces of technology.
- TeacherOfHeroes, on 04/15/2008, -2/+26You know, they've got this cool new thing called the reply button.
I realize that it's new and this must be why so many people don't seem to know how to use it, but I just thought that I should point it out since they really tucked it away out of view to make it hard for novice users to find. - piratearggghhh, on 04/15/2008, -5/+29The problem with the world: everyone's telling everyone else what they should do.
- azAZ09, on 04/15/2008, -4/+24Create an ISO cd and try running from CD to see if you like it.
- chawkie, on 04/15/2008, -12/+28No
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -1/+17Ubuntu needs a wiki like Gentoo's'; the Ubuntu forums can be really hard to navigate and actually find useful information. To be honest, this was a major reason I hopped distros.
But honestly it's really not bad. Most ubuntu noobies just need to install "ubuntu-restriceed-extras", either from synaptic, or from a command line this would just be:
`sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras`
takes care of java, flash, mp3s, dvds, etc in one fell swoop; pretty painless if you ask me. takes care of probably 90% of newbie complaints/questions. - michaeljsmalley, on 04/15/2008, -9/+24Okay, seriously... Submitting these articles on digg is like going into an Apple convention, and trying to convince the people there to use Macs. I love the occassional Ubuntu HOWTO that springs up here and there just as much as the next guy, but stop trying to convince me to use something that I already use. If I have to read "Well yeah, I keep Windows to play games, but Linux is awesome" one more time... Well... I wouldn't be surprised lol...
- solidus636, on 04/15/2008, -7/+21What the hell do you mean "allows the Internet to install automatically" ?
I have UAC off, and not ONCE has Vista tried to install something off the web without my permission...
I don't even have an anti-virus program because I find that if you are smart enough, you can easily avoid getting viruses and spyware. - Bamshackle, on 04/15/2008, -12/+26Try Linux but Vista is not going anywhere...
- socomoddjob, on 04/15/2008, -10/+24Ive used Ubuntu for the last 3 releases. Ive always gone back to XP...and ill probably stay here for a while. XP is fast, stable and you can do lots with it...Ubuntu isnt ready for prime time, too much learning for the average user still.
- estvir, on 04/15/2008, -12/+24Vista does offer things XP can't, for example, if your dodgy ATI or Nvidia drivers crash instead of taking down your whole system the video drivers will restart automatically in a few seconds.
How? New driver model, new kernel, etc.. but hey, the Digg craze is to pretend Vista is exactly the same as XP and there are no notable differences like a improved Start Menu, new Parental Controls, etc; woo! - bjornski, on 04/15/2008, -6/+17With an addition of the "Visa is dying! Doom and gloom!" to sell the piece.
Lame.
Inquisitive minds WILL try Linux. I did, I didn't like it. - pentupentropy, on 04/15/2008, -6/+17I use xp only when tailoring something with video, other than that I use strictly debian
- tnoy, on 04/15/2008, -1/+11Talking about an A+ cert in a positive light will do nothing but hurt your own credability.
- Rotzooi, on 04/15/2008, -10/+20I'm currently running a triple-boot on my home machine. XP, Vista and Ubuntu Linux.
So far, XP is still getting the most play, and I'm enjoying learning Linux. Vista isn't offering anything the other two can't do better, so I'm not even sure why I keep it around.
Professionally, I use Windows Server 2003 and in my opinion, that is a very solid product from Microsoft, as is Home Server. Vista is not ever going to be used in my line of business (hospital). - robthom, on 04/15/2008, -0/+9It must be nice to be wealthy.
- grovest4life, on 04/15/2008, -1/+10I think your sarcasm detector is broken, better get that looked at.
- bjornski, on 04/15/2008, -0/+8And keep one around, because they're damn handy to have even if you DON'T use the OS on a regular basis.
- tnoy, on 04/15/2008, -5/+12Its the "I used Vista for a week and Aero confused me" kind of unstable.
- TeacherOfHeroes, on 04/15/2008, -4/+11I don't think the article implies that you must abandon windows, merely (as the title says) "Give Linux A Chance"
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -0/+7oops, that first package name is typoed; but the command is correct.
actually, depending on your setup you may just be able to copy-paste this up into your address bar.
apt:ubuntu-restricted-extras
it should pop up a box from synaptic/aptitude and ask for root permissions.
also, a note to xubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu users: there are equivalent packages of xubuntu-restricted-extras, kubuntu-restricted-extras, and edubuntu-restricted-extras that you should install instead, if available. - aliguana, on 04/15/2008, -1/+8the lack of games on Linux or OSX doesn't bother me, since I don't own any Windows games either. If i wanted to play games I'd get a Playstation/Xbox/Wii. I use computers for... you know, doing stuff
- kjm2664, on 04/15/2008, -1/+8except, by using a beta, it is essentially the same as buying a tv that might possibly not have a plug. You are told that it might not have a plug, and if you find it doesn't have a plug, you should tell the company that yours didn't come with a plug. That way, when they release the tv as a final version, they'll know to make sure they all have said plug.
You cannot diss the OS when you install a beta and something's broken. As he said, everything worked, until upgrading to a beta release. File a bug report and see if it can get fixed. Seems more productive than posting a bug report on Digg. - thomasprebble, on 04/15/2008, -2/+9No you're absolutely right. There has been an influx of MS junkies, I don't know why - possibly a more sinister side to that. Ever notice how people who have had genuine problems with Vista are being buried?
- ToadLeg, on 04/15/2008, -0/+7smacksaw: "it has nothing to do with being a beta"
How is that? Why wouldn't this be fixed by the time the non-beta version is released? I would hope that upgrading would be one of the last things to be fixed, because you don't need to do it for beta testing, a lot of things can change that would change how it gets upgraded, and if it works when you don't upgrade it should be pretty easy to fix. - thailand1972, on 04/15/2008, -1/+8I have 3 servers running Windows Server 2003, and they have no problem with that kind of email volume (sending or receiving) over half a day. The SMTP processes just don't churn up the CPU / Memory usage like you've alluded to in your post. So I'm a little dubious as to your claim.
- sirhomer, on 04/15/2008, -1/+8apt://ubuntu-restricted-extras (apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras)
That's how you install Java. - youngcheesey, on 06/29/2009, -6/+13Dugg. On my laptop I got as a graduation gift, I had Vista. I was mediocre at best most of the time, but it got to a point which it froze way too much and it was giving me too much trouble. I loaded the Ubuntu Gutsy up, ran like a charm. Eye candy galore, no real big worry about viruses, and free. No need to worry about paying for software. I love it, and will recommend it to anyone who's willing to give it a chance. I always keep an extra LiveCD with me.
- Hangly, on 04/15/2008, -0/+7MS has a long and documented history of astroturfing.
- mvent2, on 04/15/2008, -1/+7You think Windows is higher-tech and more innovative than Linux, let alone any UNIX? I don't even want what you're smoking.
- tnoy, on 04/15/2008, -3/+9I havent gotten a single virus or piece of spyware, and 90% of my browsing for the past three months has been looking through porn sites. I've been using IE7, too.
- pentupentropy, on 04/15/2008, -20/+26If you give me your IP on that 2003 server I'll show you why it's not so solid ;) I mean, unless of course, that breaks laws. I worked with a lot of 2003 server clients at Globix. They had a lot of problems. A server with 2 GB of RAM and a dual PIII - I think 700? Couldn't handle mail with a 100,000 user list sent out over a half day period.
In all honesty, it depends on servers too and who builds them. When BMW first had their miniusa.com site there they ran Solaris (8, I think) and netscape/iPlanet and that server blew chunks because of how it was built. fubu.com, on the other hand, ran on an ultra sparc 10, or maybe a 5, it's been a while. It was our longest uptime server... like 830 days, and got quite a pounding and maintained flawlessly.
When it comes to the home user market, I see a big opportunity for Linux to strut its stuff here. There are alot more computer savvy people than there were 10 years ago, especially in the 18-35 demographic. I think a great percentage of these people could gain from not having to worry about a "new version" when they could simply upgrade, and it's nice to watch your performance stay put when you add applications that would kill a windows machine. I currently run a 900 MHz athalon and 1 GB of RAM and I kill my wife's XP Pro machine that's a 2.4 with 1 GB DDR2 (Mine is SDRAM). Of course, being that I was a linux admin for 7 years and taught A+ certification for two years, I may have a slight advantage when it comes to tweaking and refining my system. She's happy as long as youtube and firefox work =) - davidwasman, on 04/15/2008, -8/+14Really tired of all this Microsoft Fanboy bashing of every article that doesn't shine a pretty light on their products.
GOD FORBID you get any sort of criticism. Poor little you. You're so maligned. Here...lemme call you babies a WAHHHmbulance.
Look, before you MS junkies joined Digg was about REAL tech news including Linux, Apple, and more. PCs weren;t bashed until you came along and started calling anyone without an XP box a 'fanboy'.
Oh, and go ahead and bury brigade my post like you do anyone who doesnt kiss your a$$. - madwaxer, on 04/15/2008, -7/+13Agree, my Athelon X2 was doing fine with Ubuntu Fiesty till i upgraded to Heron now the sound is wierd and the wifi ain't jaming wit me no more.
haven't had the time to rebuild any packages due to a busy schedule. but i liked being able to switch between the 2 OSs especially with wine installed. - eythian, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6I think linux would win there. Applications->Add/Remove..., type 'java' in the search box, click the tick box beside 'java runtime', hit apply, done.
- Hangly, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6I love my Ubuntu, but let's not pretend Wine is anything more than a fascinating and promising experiment.
I'm an engineer and Wine makes me want to pull what's left of my hair out. - ardnut, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6Not everyone plays games and those that do aren't all pc gamers.
- shrewduser, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6"Agree, my Athelon X2 was doing fine with Ubuntu Fiesty till i upgraded to Heron now the sound is wierd and the wifi ain't jaming wit me no more."
well you can hardly complain, heron hasn't even been released yet..... - limezor2, on 04/15/2008, -10/+15Vista is alright, but if you consider what you're losing (speed, how stable it is, stuff not working) and what you're gaining (widgets which nobody uses, a search bar in the start menu...that's it) then compared to XP, XP is a speed machine.
Which brings me to my next point: Ubuntu, although it rocks, sucks. I love how fast it is, I love how stable it is, I love how 3d effects and stuff don't require a beast of a graphics card, etc. The only problem is that I need to Google how to install fricken Java! So many things are just not built in that should be super easy to do. - FairDinkumMate, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6As opposed to the "I tried Ubuntu & it didn't have a start button so it's too hard" kind of problem
- ToadLeg, on 04/15/2008, -5/+10This is not an Ubuntu beta testing forum.
- and303, on 04/15/2008, -8/+13I don't see what the problem with Vista is. It actually keeps impressing me with its ability to detect new hardware and solve problems.
- Sammi84, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5I was ok with XP, but moved to Ubuntu mainly because it gives me more freedom to tinker. For me the learning curve was one of the most enjoyable things about the change.
I do appreciate that others might be more of the "it just has to send e-mails and play games" mentality than me, and would not put up with any kind of learning curve. But please don't diss Ubuntu just because it's different. - Frost9999, on 04/15/2008, -3/+8See, that's not a good thing. The average user should not have to know stuff like that.
- fugazied, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5I triple boot OS X, Win XP and Ubuntu on a macbook pro. All are the great in their own little ways but I think I prefer OS X most of the time.
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