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- phantom_mullet, on 10/29/2007, -2/+71Honestly, I wouldn't have dreamed of running a Linux-based operating system a year ago, but recently I have found myself so impressed with the progress being made on Ubuntu that I am now running a dual-boot and planning to eventually switch to Ubuntu as my primary OS. Unfortunately, I don't see myself completely being rid of Windows anytime soon due to the fact that I am a frequent user of Adobe's Creative Suite and an avid gamer.
- seraph582, on 10/29/2007, -1/+42"It's ability to seamlessly import your settings, music and data from a Windows partition erases one of the most pressing barriers for new users."
*That* is impressive!! - azprofessional, on 10/29/2007, -4/+45To hell with the haters and to hell with the snobs. If you actually love games, fine Vista is for you. If you're a douchebag with an arbitrary hatred because some previous version didn't have a driver and you're 'google impaired' who the hell needs you? I knew nothing but demonstrations of Linux, no terminal knowledge, no coding experience, no real linux concept grasp.
Ubuntu Feisty had sound driver problems and my resolution was limited. It took me one night googling to figure it out. Now I've got grub tribooting with a splash screen and the whole deal, Jack fully works in audio software in Ubuntu Studio and Beryl and all the games that can work, work.
Installed XP, No sound driver, No wirless driver, No video Driver, No lan driver. I'm not touching Vista with a ten foot pole which I understand now is pushing manufacturers to stop hosting XP drivers (At least on the American and Canadian side). It took me 10 hours with no support community to find xp drivers that were mostly on different language sites to get the features to work. The Vista drivers of course were useless and its funny how some of the XP drivers I needed were only hosted on European support sites for the same hardware I bought here.
***** *****, you don't like Ubuntu, too hard, too easy, too soft, too not Bill Gates. Fine who needs you anyways? - drimsun, on 10/29/2007, -3/+37Time to throw Vista out the window!
- Ub3rg33k, on 10/19/2007, -0/+231 and 3 are addressed in this update. I think you'll really like the new dual monitor app. I'm not sure what issues you're talking about with USB, I've never had a problem.
- schestowitz, on 10/29/2007, -2/+24Wired's software section (not open source blogs). That's good publicity, possibly in print too. FTA: "If you've been considering making the switch from Windows or Mac, Ubuntu makes the process painless."
- geddon, on 10/29/2007, -1/+23We're finally approaching the Year of Linux for Consumers (brought to you by Ubuntu)!
- Phocion55, on 10/18/2007, -1/+22I think he meant 5 clicks to figure out why WGA has locked you out of your legally purchased Vista OS.
- kazamx, on 10/29/2007, -0/+21your in the same situation as me. I now use virtualbox to run XP inside of Ubuntu when I am working. This gives me the best of Linux AND the best of windows at the same time. If I want to play games I just reboot into windows.
- deadbaby, on 10/29/2007, -0/+17It's nice to see the mainstream media catching up on Linux. All these "I switched to Linux and now my whites are whiter, I won the lottery and my wife's breasts got bigger" stories are nice but they don't reach more than the average digg audience. (who is already sold on Linux, for the most part) One story in Wired is worth 5000 "10 reasons to switch to Ubuntu" stories on digg.
- edzilla, on 10/18/2007, -2/+19"That's BS. Vista is about 5 clicks, and Ubuntu still has hardware issues."
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Yes? 5 clicks including drivers? Oh, and hardware issues are one of the most seen critics for vista... - eviltandem, on 10/18/2007, -0/+16OK I call bull on this. After an Ubuntu install you are literally 2 mouse clicks away from installing the proprietary drivers for stuff like video cards (both my ATI and Nvidia cards). Just click the driver app that pops up on first run and click "enable"... very complicated.
For Vista and XP you have to go to nvidia's site, find the relevant drivers, download, unpack, install, configure. That's way more than 2 clicks. - edzilla, on 10/29/2007, -0/+15"Once Ubuntu was installed, it rebooted, immediately recognized my laptop's Wi-Fi card and automatically joined my local network using my imported settings. It even defaulted to Wi-Fi Protected Access encryption, something that required additional configuration in previous versions."
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it actually can import wireless settings? Ok, now THAT is impressive! - zeejay, on 10/29/2007, -4/+17FTA: "Gutsy Gibbon is certainly easier to install and set up than Windows Vista"
Wow... The times, they are a-changin'.
If you needed any evidence that MS is on the wrong course w/ its OS efforts, there you have it, right there. - mggs, on 10/18/2007, -1/+13Who cares if it will ever be mainstream. Just relevant enough so that hardware manufactures cant ignore it will suit me just fine thank you.
- eviltandem, on 10/19/2007, -0/+12I'll take that action. Your average user doesn't care what OS they are running. As long as they can open their files and check their emails they'll be happy. The average user also isn't usually that into games on their desktop (we all have consoles for that now), which is really the only sore spot left in Linux. Then you start showing them the bells and whistles they get. With Ubuntu most people are surprised that the stuff is usually better than the windows counterparts. Then you explain this is all free.
Business will adopt and support at first (for cost and ease of maintenance). This will help users become familiar with it. This will lead to home adoption because it's "what they know" (probably the most common thing I hear from people whom I suggest switching, like my parents).
Then there's the virus/trojan situation on windows. It's completely out of control at this point. For my parents I have installed tons of anti-virus stuff, and firewalls, and moved them to firefox. Still, every time I go to their house the things is all trashed again. I cannot for the life of me figure out how the do it.
Then you consider the competition. It's not exactly like Vista is tough to compete against. MS lost it's mind with DRM and poor performance at probably the best time they could have for Linux. - Phocion55, on 10/19/2007, -0/+11Yep I was one of them.
I was not impressed with previous versions like Dapper at all. I decided to give Ubuntu another chance with Feisty. I was pleased with the HUGE improvements. - Ub3rg33k, on 10/18/2007, -1/+12Except for the fact that printing has been overhauled, wireless is better, dual monitor support is out of the box, restricted codecs are easier for a noob to install, and several other changes. Its not just the eye candy, though that does help a lot to pique people's interests.
- azprofessional, on 10/19/2007, -3/+13No CDS dingbat, it was a pre-install vista installation with no support cds that had Xp drivers on the manufacturer site and they were taken down, they were all available less than 6 months ago and still are on French Euro sites. Thats my quarrel. I know XP drivers arent built in I've had to install and resintall it 15 times in those 6 years with other computers, but when the drivers are taken down completely from support in north America to push Vista down my throat with no database to keep the drivers in case someone needs them AND THEY DO EXIST, THAT IS UNACEPTABLE.
Go ***** yourself, you presumptuous clod. - skyh, on 10/19/2007, -0/+10I've had zero problems with USB on Ubuntu, and now with Gutsy, I can use an external monitor or dual without any problems. Heck, Windows doesn't even detect the correct max resolution on my secondary monitor anymore.. only Ubuntu does.
- edzilla, on 10/19/2007, -0/+10USB works like a charm. And you can actually read and write on mac external hard drive. Have you tried that under windows recently?
- eviltandem, on 10/18/2007, -2/+12I run Ubuntu on my macbook now. Ubuntu is way better than os X at this point. It's funny because it's the opposite of Windows. Ubuntu has lots more apps than osX.
My only beef is I have to keep os X on the partition so I can boot into ubuntu... - Deciders, on 10/29/2007, -3/+12 You should look into Wine. With Wine, you can run most Windows applications natively on Linux. Gaming support has gotten much better as well.
- shark615, on 10/18/2007, -1/+10*****. I am going to have to install this now.
- kazamx, on 10/18/2007, -0/+9The main things that reviewers went on about have been fixed/improved.
Almost every review went on about codecs. they are now easier than ever
Almost every review went on about wireless. Works with almost every card now
Many reviews complained about lack of duel monitor support. Fixed
Many complained about printer support. Fixed.
While I agree that compared to all the things Ubuntu already had done right, these are small improvements, they are the ones that count. reviewers have looked at their old articles and found almost every big problem they found solved, hence the good reviews. - nicku, on 10/29/2007, -0/+9Same here. If i could just get Adobe CS3 for Linux, I would be done with Windows forever.
- edzilla, on 10/19/2007, -0/+8I agree. I was very surprised the last time I installed it, and it was available in the previous version too.
- cjackson, on 10/18/2007, -2/+10"When Linux takes a big chunk of MS market, by all means, let's have the story"
No OS is going to take market share away from MS without publicity like this story. If you don't like Linux, cool, go read something else. Some people are interested in this. - eviltandem, on 10/29/2007, -0/+7It's good for regular apps, but wine is far from ready for games. I have a pretty top end system, and my curse is World of Warcraft. Wine does indeed run it. If I go and turn down/off all the fancy bells and whistles, then drop the resolution down to 1/2 I can usually squeeze 1/2 the frame rate I get from Windows (with all the options turned on).
However, lots of other windows apps just work with wine out of the box. I managed to install ie and office for those pesky times you just need them without much fuss in wine. 3d just isn't there yet. - Recidivus, on 10/18/2007, -0/+7article mentioned 2 of those.
- deadbaby, on 10/18/2007, -1/+7Some people like to get in on the ground floor of an emerging technology or trend. I'm interested in Linux because I'm 100% convinced it will not only make me money in my career but will also save me a lot of time fixing supid Windows problems for friends and family. We're not quite there yet but it's coming. I want to be ready.
- buggles, on 10/29/2007, -1/+7The article cites game support as being an issue (still is IMHO) but I wanted to point out the existance of a really kick-ass game with native Linux support called Vendetta Online. Installed fast and the performance is incredible.
- eviltandem, on 10/19/2007, -1/+7You're insane if you think os X is that great. I have a macbook, I've played with it a lot. OS X for me seems like the worse of both worlds. It works like windows (in the sense I have to go hunting down from the web the apps that I want), with the benefit of being a small OS (not many people use it, and the size of the software pool reflects that).
So I installed the X layer in my osX, and then darwine, and then some osX version of apt-get (can't remember the name now). It was beautiful, except that the available software sucked, and was a really small subset of what was available under regular Linux distros. It was a real pain in the arse getting gimp to work in osX... it's installed by default in Ubuntu. Same with the office apps. Same with wine.
To me osX is a unix system without the advantages I usually enjoy in unix, and with the parts I don't like about windows (mainly software installation/maintenance). - ronin691, on 10/18/2007, -0/+6"myranttoyou" = Steve Ballmer
- kazamx, on 10/29/2007, -1/+6The year of the Linux desktop will be the next time Microsoft upgrades its OS. We saw with Vista that many people started looking around for alternatives. linux was perfect for a tiny % of the market, but not for most. However with the speed linux is moving forward, by the time the next Microsoft upgrade comes Linux will be ready for a hell of alot more.
- myotive, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5Here are the apps wine currently supports:
http://appdb.winehq.org/ - cesclaveria, on 10/29/2007, -0/+5"DVDs were a little bit tricky" if you read further on the article, the "tricky" part was to use synaptic to download and install MPlayer, so it was fairly easy.
And the part of games, well, Amarok is not made for Windows and I'm not bashing Windows for that, the publishers/developers are to ones to blame for the lack of games on GNU/Linux distributions. - tripzero, on 10/29/2007, -0/+5"...in _some_ cases...". No one said it would trump windows in _every_ category. But in many ways it does.
- zeejay, on 10/29/2007, -0/+5Lots of people don't play games or watch DVDs on their computers. Maybe even the majority. Seriously.
- edzilla, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5Try cvscedega (the free version of the commercial cedega application).
It is a bit rough to set up, but there are pretty good tutorials out there, and I used to run WOW at the same resolution/FPS as in windows. - Quilby, on 10/29/2007, -0/+5No year is going to be the "Year of Linux". Linux is slowly going to get more and more of the market share... It wont just go from %0.5 to %99.
- kettlechips, on 10/29/2007, -0/+5To be fair, most fresh installations of Windows XP or Basic Vista also lack DVD movie support.
- edzilla, on 10/19/2007, -0/+5You either installed a beta or an RC
- MWeather, on 10/19/2007, -0/+5I hope Ubuntu is never on par with Windows. I'd hate to see them remove all those features.
- azprofessional, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5Remeber how laptops come with Vista and immediate recovery requests now?
No more Cds, just use Vista or you're S.O.L. unless you can google with an adequate level of experience finding drivers and knowledge of other far away languages. - 72DH, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5I installed this a couple of hours ago. I completely wiped my Dapper system (after backup of course). My hardware is fairly modest, including on-board graphics. I am amazed with this release. Wireless worked out of the box (unlike Dapper and Feisty), Compiz Fusion effects are used well and everything so far is running very nicely thank you very much. I installed a dark GTK theme and awn and I've now decided I can wait for that Mac for a few more months. Nice one Ubuntu. I think you've finally cracked it.
- duhblah, on 10/18/2007, -0/+41) It's a big deal if you _are_ into Linux.
2) If you like Linux, use it. The more people use it , the more chance there is that games will be released for it.
3) If you don't want to read it, read something else. There are other sites, and other articles on digg. Hell - it's teh internets. - Melenor, on 10/29/2007, -0/+4I'm running CS3 (Photoshop, Dreamweaver, the works) on Ubuntu no problem. As x713 said, Wine's the way to go, both for apps and gaming.
I followed the steps on this website: http://luiscosio.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on ... and just did the same for CS3. That should have it working like a charm for you ^_^ - gummih, on 10/29/2007, -0/+4But I've been hoping that it would go from %0.5 to %99 in an instant and someone would snap a photo of the guys at Redmond at that very moment and plaster "WTF!!" on it and post it on teh internets. Are you now telling me that's not gonna happen?
- TheZorch, on 10/19/2007, -0/+4Linux has been ready for the mainstream for a while now, its the anti-competitive efforts of Microsoft which has kept it from the limelight. Nobody can claim otherwise with any REAL evidence to back them up that Microsoft isn't the cause. I have plenty of evidence on my side; the SCO debacle which was funded and spurred on by MS, MS's patent case against Red Hat yet they refuse to show evidence, exclusionary contracts with PC manufacturers limiting their offerings to Windows only. I could go on if anyone is interested.
Oh its easy for Windows supporter to dismiss Linux user enthusiasm as fanboyism, but in truth they are just in denial of the facts that are self-evident. In my opinion those fervent Windows supporters who blow off Linux supporters as fanatical fanboys are two-faced hypocrites.
I'm a veteran of IT for more than 10 years and I've seen Microsoft's tactics first hand, I have eye witness experience with how they do business and how they subvert competition. Anyone who claims otherwise is a bare faced liar because I have seen it with my own two eyes. -
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