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- astyguy, on 06/05/2009, -2/+402009 a good vintage for wine
- 1633Hz, on 06/06/2009, -5/+31It's a bit of copypasta, but I've seen some of this ancient documentation myself, so I really think anyone spurting that phrase about what "WINE" means needs to read this:
"harlowsmonkeys
on 10/12/2007
The history of "Wine Is Not an Emulator" is kind of interesting. If you go back and look at the release notes for each version or the FAQ and other documentation, you'll see it originally WAS "WINdows Emulator". It stayed that way for most of its early history. The "Wine Is Not an Emulator" thing was suggested when Microsoft trademarked "Windows" and there was some concern on the WINE list over whether or not they could get in trouble.
However, this suggested was not taken. Pretty much everything (release notes, documentation, etc) continued saying it was "WINdows Emulator". The trademark issue was not considered to be a problem. It continued this way for quite a while.
What got them to change was user perception. WINE is in fact an emulator, according to most accepted definitions of emulator. However, the most prominent emulators are emulators of hardware, not emulators of software. For example, things like Virtual PC, which emulated x86 hardware on PowerPC, MAME that emulates arcade game hardware, and so on. Hardware emulators are almost always very slow compared to the hardware they are running on.
The concern was that if attention were drawn to WINE being an emulator, most people would think that this means it emulates x86 hardware, and that it is very slow.
For a while, the documentation with each release said that WINE was either "WINdows Emulator" or "Wine Is Not an Emulator", take your pick. That went on for a while. Eventually, the first alternative was dropped, leaving us where we are now.
Note that there were no technical changes in the basic way WINE works between the early years, when the name officially meant "WINdows Emulator", and now, when it officially means "Wine Is Not an Emulator". It was an emulator then, and so it is still an emulator now.
Keep this in mind if correcting someone who calls WINE a Windows emulator. Whether they are wrong or right depends on whether they are talking about the meaning of the name or the technology by which WINE lets you run Windows applications." - XeroXenith, on 06/06/2009, -4/+22Yes, if enough people digg it. Which they do. So yes.
You might want to consider disabling Linux/Unix stories, or (!gasp!) not clicking on the ones you don't like. - Nephersir7, on 06/06/2009, -1/+17Dugg for "Adobe Photoshop CS2 update process funky"
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11251#c0 - abbathdoom, on 06/06/2009, -1/+15The Wine community should write a book on how to make the Digg front page because they seem to be able to manage it better than anyone else on the entire internets. I'm not knocking them, I'm just intrigued how they manage it.
- errfunction, on 06/06/2009, -1/+12Nice release guys, your work is greatly appreciated.
- sanskrtam, on 06/06/2009, -1/+7Wine stable released around 200 days ago. Let's hope that there will be a new stable release.
- inactive, on 06/06/2009, -1/+7This was an interesting comment about the definition of WINE. It''s neither pro or anti Linux, Why is it being dugg down?
- tuX0r01, on 06/06/2009, -2/+6This looks like a nice improvement
- victorycig, on 06/06/2009, -9/+12Wine is not an emulator. Good recursive acronym. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_acronyms
- nullity, on 06/06/2009, -1/+4Dr. Steve Brule for your wine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHsaQPXyNzw
- kdorf, on 06/07/2009, -0/+3I don't really think a stable release of Wine means anything. Not like it does for other software.
- drbrontosaurus, on 06/06/2009, -0/+3maybe its exciting to some people
- ratrip, on 06/08/2009, -0/+2*** Why would everyone using it get an auto-update? That's completely incorrect. ***
You mean you don't have the development repositories added to your package manager?!? - sanskrtam, on 06/07/2009, -0/+1Perhaps you're right.
- ghostborg, on 06/06/2009, -1/+2Just updated and under Audio tab in the configuration the test sound button says it failed. Worked before. hmmm.
- oobuntu, on 06/07/2009, -0/+1it means that the version included in distro repositories by default is newer. this is a good thing if you are managing a lot of machines. you want to keep a version and not have it change every week but you also want a newer version.
- LudoA, on 06/07/2009, -0/+1Why would everyone using it get an auto-update? That's completely incorrect.
- int19h, on 06/07/2009, -1/+2As sure as Wine updates are reported to digg are these comments. It's always the same: "is this digg-worthy?". That's an easy question to answer; just look at the number of diggs.
- FKnight, on 06/06/2009, -1/+1I think all of these Wine updates getting on the front page is really a bad idea for Linux advocacy, because once someone clicks on the link and sees all of the bugs that were fixed with the latest update, they have proof that everyone who was telling them "such and such runs fine under Wine so you don't need Windows" were lying. Just sayin'.
- isny, on 06/06/2009, -6/+6So Wine Is N Emulator?
- stmiller, on 06/10/2009, -1/+1Safari 4 works with wine for me. Cool...
- inactive, on 06/07/2009, -0/+0No. "Some" Linux users just love to dig anything Linux related. Bonus if it makes Microsoft look bad.
Masterc, nor anyone else should have to disable Linux stories simply because they don't like to see Wine spam eating up space. Some of us are calling on the Linux community to grow up a little. Ignorant pricks like you would rather keep behaving like children. - glubbdrubb, on 06/06/2009, -3/+2Dugg for Git
- serobill, on 06/06/2009, -11/+7I'm gonna get wasted.
- Colinho22, on 06/06/2009, -5/+0xkcd is better.
- masterc, on 06/06/2009, -19/+13Yay for Linux and all, but does every ***** update of Wine have to hit the front page?
- bumcheekcity, on 06/06/2009, -19/+13Is it always absolutely necessary to Digg a new release of WINE? I'm sure we'll all get it automatically when the repositories are updated in a day or so anyway.
- masterc, on 06/06/2009, -11/+3Why would I disable Linux/Unix stories when I like reading them? And I've never commented in a Wine story, this is the first. I just don't see the point as to why it keeps making the front page when hundreds of applications get updated everyday, but you don't see them making the front page.
- zero, on 06/06/2009, -11/+3Seriously enough of the Wine point releases. Anybody that uses wine will get an auto update. No need to digg it every single time one is released.
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