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- inactive, on 05/24/2008, -6/+96A Wine release, you say?
Dugg. Unquestionably. Let's get this bad boy to the front page. - Sammi84, on 05/24/2008, -4/+89Wine is not an emulator.
It's a compatibility layer that can run Windows apps on unix-like platforms. Windows also uses compatibility layers to run older Win programs on Vista. A compatibility layer is performance wise almost the same as any other native runtime environment. - romulasry, on 05/24/2008, -10/+93Needs more cowbell.
- highlymodified, on 05/24/2008, -7/+64As a recent Ubuntu convert, now armed with latest Wine, I honestly can't see why more people don't run screaming away from Windows.
I have no shame about digging everything Linux related: the only thing holding back the revolution is not enough press. - laofmoonster, on 05/24/2008, -8/+60One step closer to being able to get rid of Windows.
- inactive, on 05/24/2008, -0/+44Why the heck is someone trying to run Firefox under Wine?
- blurrie, on 05/24/2008, -3/+47wow. wine 1.0. epic. that ***** was in .xx for ever!
- inactive, on 05/24/2008, -2/+41You can have never enough cowbell.
- acetv, on 05/24/2008, -1/+33Can anyone confirm this? Is there enough cowbell in this release or not?
- arjie, on 05/24/2008, -0/+32I was just scrolling and saw "13166 system tray icons show up twice" and I was like, "Oh *****! That's a lot." Then I noticed what the numbers were. Now I feel stupid.
- bj1989, on 05/24/2008, -4/+35Let me explain something that is often a cause of confusion:
Ubuntu 8.04 comes with wine 0.9.60, if you want the latest version of wine you should enable the wine repository, very clear instructions can be found at the winehq site. The Hardy repo is currently at rc1.
It usually takes a few days before the latest version of wine reaches this repository. However, if you are using Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) AND you have the wine repository enabled you will be stuck at 0.9.59 simply because there seem to have been some problems with the latest versions and gutsy.
The package manager said he would upgrade the Gutsy repo with wine 1.0 when it's released. - Sammi84, on 05/24/2008, -1/+31Yes I agree. Put in more cowbell.
- rpapi100, on 05/24/2008, -2/+30Games. Not open arena or gnomix or any tux games, real ''graphic card intense'', HD, 6gig installation, Dolby, AA, juicy games. You know, the one you want your PC to play when you buy your machine.
That's the last frontier, because, lets face it, when people start hearing that tux plays games as well (or even better) than Windows, then, my friend it will be over. Gamers are the only group that (compared to grandmas, artists, power users, professionals, casual users), in order to fufill their name, will do anything for the sake of performance, even buy a frigging 4000$ machine, or a 200$ keyboard. There the ones pushing the industry forward, hardware-wise at least.
So until then, this gamer will stick with Satansoft and go on installing ubuntu and Mint on my newbish friends and family's PCs.
P.S. Oh yeah and, no more ''consol-ing'' when ***** hits the fan would be jolly. When Power users will be able to migrate to tux while not having to learn to code and *****, I'll hand over the cake to tux. - wontstoptalking, on 05/24/2008, -1/+29We're getting close!
- MacParrot, on 05/24/2008, -0/+26They are currently in code-freeze. According to a senior spokesman who wishes to remain anonymous, more cowbell WILL be added as soon as the final bug list is compiled. "No one wishes for more cowbell than I do." said the spokesman. "But at some point you've just got to stop and see how far a certain level of cowbell will take you."
- Appleboi4evr, on 05/24/2008, -1/+25hopefully Maarten Lankhorst's patches are added and work so we can sync iphones and ipod touches without all the hassle (as well as all the other ipods).
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2008-Ma ...
next: zune please! - disappointment, on 05/24/2008, -0/+21Adobe Shockwave, perhaps?
- ToadLeg, on 05/24/2008, -2/+22And a new Wine Bug-fix Comedy Show begins:
6050 Interstate'76 install should play sound but plays loud noise instead
12268 Steam update fail at 26%
12306 Firefox 3 beta shows one-pixel-high black line when rendering some images
12884 MessageBox " is not a valid integer value in Visual Trading
13166 system tray icons show up twice - Adv1s, on 05/24/2008, -1/+20I'm getting an itch to switch...
- sirhomer, on 05/24/2008, -0/+18He is talking about after 1.0
Think about it, Wine is an OSS project (with DSCM code management [the "git" system], meaning development can be highly decentralized). So there is no doubt people are still working on features even though Wine is in bug fix mode only. After 1.0 is released these features may be merged with the main git repository. So there may well be an "explosion of features" after 1.0 is released.
Nothing wrong with that though. I look forward to it if it's true, but it might hurt this (imo, fake) sense of stability they are aiming for. - Freakwit, on 05/24/2008, -0/+17You must be new here.
- morphir, on 05/24/2008, -2/+16I'm just glad to see WINE finally is just receiving bug fixes. Let's see how stable we can get this bad boy.
- mvent2, on 05/24/2008, -0/+13"I dont want to spend time playing around with drivers and installing packages, trying to get ***** to work."
Funny you should mention that, that is pretty much my experience installing Windows on any computer. - heartless_, on 05/24/2008, -0/+13For everyday users, if your WINE version is working, there is no need to jump on a release candidate at this time. Also, I've found it inherently better to remove older WINE versions by hand and then installing the new version of WINE. I've never had an issue this way and have never lost any of my configurations, which are stored in your users /home directory if you were unaware.
Either way, I'm excited to approach WINE 1.0 officially :) - Gonasadude, on 05/24/2008, -0/+12fail
- Dustmuffins, on 05/24/2008, -1/+13how I long for the day when I can run all my games free of windows...
- hpfilter, on 05/24/2008, -0/+12I was replaying GTA San Andreas (when will PC GTA IV come out ??) just for the kick of it. The other day, i booted into my Ubuntu installation, and just went to the directory where San Andreas was installed, and typed :
$wine gta_sa.exe
The next moment, San Andreas was up and running, even creating a User Files dir in my home dir. There was no difference in performance.
It may not be a graphic intensive game, but it kinda proves most of the games will work, simply with wine, without the need of stuff like Crossover. - inactive, on 05/24/2008, -2/+13Lets just hope that we don't get as far as OS/2 did!
- LavosPhoenix, on 05/24/2008, -0/+11Games. For example, Audiosurf works again, and combined with improvements in DirectX, now works better then it did before support for it was broken.
- arjie, on 05/24/2008, -0/+11Every week, dawnraid. And yes, that's the point. Linux is great, and some Windows programs are good. Linux users like that ability to be able to use any program they want without having to be tied down to an OS. If that's not for you, it's not for you.
- dankegel, on 05/24/2008, -1/+11http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13396
- msmayhew, on 05/24/2008, -0/+10Photoshop CS2 is one thing but can Wine run cygwin??
/extreme sarcasm - arjie, on 05/24/2008, -0/+9You don't have to go around installing drivers and installing packages just to get stuff to work. Atleast I have never needed to, if I want a program it gets installed with minimum fuss also installing everything else it needs, and drivers are simply automatic.
But then, you're right, if you're happy, stick with what works. Don't fix what isn't broken, you know. But you don't know what you're missing. - Theli, on 05/24/2008, -1/+10Poser 7 seems to be working now. I didn't even start up in 0.9.60.
- arjie, on 05/24/2008, -4/+12Resistance is futile orlfman, Windows will be assimilated.
- aserer511, on 05/24/2008, -1/+9I am probably going to be a wine user soon enough, as I am likely going to be a linux user soon enough
- 4DFX, on 05/24/2008, -0/+8Avidemux is what you want.
- Kingoftherings, on 05/24/2008, -8/+16Can't wait to see the feature explosion that will inevitably come in the release right after 1.0 and end up breaking everything they fixed.
- piesforyou, on 05/24/2008, -1/+9is it 1.0 just because they ran out of tenths?
- danomagnum, on 05/24/2008, -0/+7^ Some of the greatest digg comments ever
- an10ae, on 05/24/2008, -0/+7For seriously.
I've been waiting on this since '97 running Word and Excel in Suse 6.0 - gigo6000, on 05/24/2008, -1/+8dugg because of wine I could switch to linux
- archlich, on 05/24/2008, -0/+7Well, dosbox is an emulator, they could have called it Die instead. Die Is an Emulator.
- CreepingDeath, on 05/24/2008, -0/+7http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=v ...
Kinda :) - charlietuna, on 05/24/2008, -1/+8Wine's file site on budgetdedicated is a dog. No mirrors? I created a .torrent on sumotorrent.
Title: wine_1.0~rc2~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-1_i386.deb - synergye, on 05/24/2008, -1/+7because the bugs were very common and widespread
- Theli, on 05/24/2008, -0/+6Correction: IT didn't even start up...
- inactive, on 05/24/2008, -0/+6It'll be included in the Ubuntu repos when it's tested and found to be stable.
- p3ngwin, on 05/24/2008, -0/+6"I don't want to spend time playing around with drivers and installing packages, trying to get ***** to work"...
exactly why people have stayed away from Vista in the millions........
when un-learning one way, to learn a better way, there will always be pain. but this pain is short term and gains more reward in time as you reap the fruits of your labor.
switching to a better way will always be painful because we are creatures of HABIT. we get ingrained into a way of doing something so that the more we do it, the harder it is to adapt to a better way if it arrives.
if we never form these habit, instead doing things in realtime proportional to their needs each time, then we will always feel no pain switching to a better way, as we will ave not ingrained ourselves. -
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