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Wine 0.9.61 Released

winehq.org — Automatic updating of the WINEPREFIX directory, many RichEdit fixes, IME support improvements, more quartz fixes, implementation for many more Gdiplus functions, and as usual, lots of bug fixes.

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  • mysticmatrix, on 05/03/2008, -2/+72Customary comment:
    Wine is not an emulator...
    Days remaining for Wine 1.0rc1 are 9 only!!!
    http://wiki.winehq.org/WineReleasePlan
    • SuperWinner, on 05/03/2008, -4/+25What a coincidence, I'm just enjoying beer 0.65.1
      • KaiUno, on 05/03/2008, -1/+18Ugh, that's a beta build. It'll give you the runs. Not to mention a headache.
    • aldenhg, on 05/03/2008, -11/+5I think it's too bad they're releasing 1.0 so soon. Most good projects are at LEAST 20 years old before they're stable enough for 1.0. Like Debian Stable.

      But seriously folks, what's in a number? they could have called .50.0 1.0 and it wouldn't have made a difference in the end. I would rather they devote their Wine time making it work well, not what to call it.
      • mijelh, on 05/03/2008, -0/+171.0 is going to be released on wine's 15th birthday, we are not talking about a 3yo project.
        And, what's there on a number? well, release criteria for wine 1.0 is that Photoshop CS2 tryout, Microsoft Powerpoint Viewer 97 and 2003, Microsoft Word Viewer 97 and 2003 and Microsoft Excel Viewer 97 and 2003 are functional, so I think 1.0 really makes a difference. BTW this criteria was set long years ago, and the wine crew was working hard on it ever since, as some other collaborators like Google, so I really don't understand your criticism at all.
      • justice7, on 05/03/2008, -6/+1i thought 1.0 meant full XP SP2 compatibility? ... someday. .. someday.
      • blagoaw, on 05/03/2008, -0/+2Major releases and the names (or numbers) used to signify their significance make a difference because we're human. As a developer, I'd probably work a harder crunch toward a 1.0 release than I would toward a .50.0 release and judging by the recent rate of fixes, that seems to be happening with WINE as well. Users will gravitate more toward a simple 1.0 release, and this will provide a relatively standard base and point of reference. These are useful things sometimes. I see the point you're trying to make, but people do these things because it ultimately does make a difference.
      • HonoredMule, on 05/03/2008, -1/+1Are you suggesting that large portions of developers' time has been tied up with making the decision to name a release version 1.0?

        To turn a phrase...seriously, what's in a number? What difference does it make to YOU that they're hitting 1.0? Why make a fuss about it yourself?
  • rouge568, on 05/03/2008, -1/+4843 bugs left!
    • ekravchenko, on 05/03/2008, -1/+7They said that they will not fix all of those for 1.0
    • uziko, on 05/03/2008, -29/+2only 43 more than windows has!

      but bugs are what makes linux so much better!
      • mijelh, on 05/03/2008, -2/+343 bugs are quite a lot, however I think it's fair to say that only 6 of them are considered "major" bugs.
      • Borgcube, on 05/03/2008, -1/+13Dude, did you even use Windows. Like, at all?
      • srg13, on 05/03/2008, -0/+11Was that an attempt at satire?
    • twiztidsinz, on 05/03/2008, -1/+17They're not bugs... they're 'unintentional features'
  • shad0walker, on 05/03/2008, -21/+61Before people bitch about this being on Digg.
    Shut up. It's here, get over and just don't read it.

    I would like assume that the tiny brains you use to post comments about how much it sucks this is on Digg might be capable of NOT CLICKING the damn link. Looking back at that sentence I fear I'm a little too hopeful though.
    • jessenoob, on 05/03/2008, -33/+8How about the tiny brain you use to complain about complainers?
      Hypocrite.
    • synystar, on 05/03/2008, -12/+5I must bitch. Why can I not run CS3 on this platform Adobe? If Wine will make it work for me then I will gladly switch.
      • FvckingFvck, on 05/03/2008, -1/+2I run the entire CS3 suite in WINE flawlessly.
        • TiKoZ, on 05/03/2008, -0/+4How?
        • CRasH180, on 05/04/2008, -0/+1I think if he does reply that will be a very big posting.

          Eagerly waiting....
    • FvckingFvck, on 05/03/2008, -3/+5I love WINE, I hate that releases end up on digg, anyone that cares knows when WINE is released anyway.
      • Buu700, on 05/03/2008, -1/+3"anyone that cares knows when WINE is released anyway"

        I don't. I do care, but for some reason I have better things to do with my time than track WINE releases.
  • sloppychris, on 05/03/2008, -1/+88"Does ______ work yet?"

    http://appdb.winehq.org/
    • aldenhg, on 05/03/2008, -12/+6Yeah, _____ works, but it helps to recompile with the _____ patch.
    • sloppychris, on 05/03/2008, -18/+4They're the _____iest bunch of _____s that ever _____ed.
      • greenlight2001, on 05/03/2008, -10/+2*sex *bitche *fart
      • directrix13, on 05/03/2008, -3/+8The answer is suck. Oh, shouldn't have typed that... my damn wiener kids are reading.
    • Hangly, on 05/03/2008, -0/+4*Wacom Intuos3 tablets (pressure and tilt)

      Please please I need this.
      • synystar, on 05/03/2008, -1/+3Wouldn't that be nice. It's unfortunate that something so awesome sucks so bad. Make the OS work with products that we use and we will use the OS. Simple as that.
        • synystar, on 05/03/2008, -3/+5And before you say "It's not our fault that they don't support Linux" think about that statement. Should someone should be appointed to spend countless hours without pay coding drivers for unsupported hardware. Someone else to spend countless hours trying to convince whoever manufactured the hardware that they should support Linux. This is open-source. It's a rough road. How do you get it to the point where everyone just says "Done with that. Ok, now make it work on Linux"
        • Hangly, on 05/03/2008, -0/+3Wacom tablets work under Linux just fine. And evidently they worked with Wine at one point too but don't anymore. It's probably a simple fix, someone just has to do it.
        • strabes, on 05/03/2008, -0/+5How about vendors make their products work for the OS? That or release documentation. If they don't, there's nothing we can do.
    • synystar, on 05/03/2008, -5/+12I actually got ______ to work but I lost a girlfriend in the process.
  • scarysnow, on 05/03/2008, -20/+1i'm sure clinton will have a problem with this.
  • uziko, on 05/03/2008, -56/+1how pitiful, linux can't even emulate windows without being buggy, pathetic
    • mijelh, on 05/03/2008, -1/+34so we are lucky that Wine Is Not en Emulator
    • Hangly, on 05/03/2008, -0/+30Windows on the other hand can emulate everything just fine?
      • theaceoffire, on 05/03/2008, -5/+3Mine can emulate fine... normally.
        However, when I went to Russia, my computer emulated me!
      • mijelh, on 05/03/2008, -3/+1So we can assume you went to Russia before 1991?
    • srg13, on 05/03/2008, -0/+11Are you judging that on the amount of bugs that they fix each month? Because 1) All software has bugs, and it's a _good thing_ that they're fixed, and 2) most WINE bugs are something not working because a function has not been implemented yet - not a problem with existing code. Given the size of all the Windows APIs, they're making good progress in implementing them
    • HonoredMule, on 05/03/2008, -0/+4So how's that Windows POSIX "emulation" coming? How about decent/secure NFS? Native ext3?

      Wine accomplishes for Linux what Windows will not even attempt. But then that's the problem with using software driven by business decisions rather than technical merit or usefulness. Windows isn't even trying to satisfy me the customer...just keeping me locked in is more cost effective.
  • d0zy, on 05/03/2008, -2/+5does anybody use wine with mac (leopard), darwine?
    is it good enough for quick access to windows programs or should i spend the money on parallels/fusion?
    already use bootcamp, but would also like quick program use within leopard without booting up windows.
    thanks
    • DevilInPgh, on 05/03/2008, -0/+5Darwine for PPC is essentially dead. However, for Intel, I think it's sorta going on...
      http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2008/03/darwine-09 ...
      • MrPig, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1You can compile WINE on OSX as long as you have X11 installed as well.
      • Ademan, on 05/04/2008, -0/+1Wine for Intel macs is going faster than ever, in fact if i'm not mistaken there's alot of work being done on the quartz driver to remove the dependency on X11 on osx.
    • dougbarrett, on 05/03/2008, -2/+3VirtualBox is free!
    • nandasunu, on 05/03/2008, -0/+3Use these builds: http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ instead of the normal ones. These are more frequently updated. IMO wine on OS X is not really worth it, you have to use X11, its not as nicely integrated as on Linux either. Better of using vmware for serious stuff and darwine for the occasional app.
  • celkin, on 05/03/2008, -18/+14.
  • Adam420, on 05/03/2008, -44/+3Why not just use window...Linux just isn't there yet.
    • Hangly, on 05/03/2008, -1/+25Oh it's there.
    • srg13, on 05/03/2008, -0/+18For me, it's not a problem with Linux, it's a problem with Photoshop.

      Wine is an interim solution. Especially because it's only one app that I use regularly, and one or two that I use occasionally. It's not worth putting up with Windows just for that.
    • ruskie, on 05/03/2008, -0/+10It's been here on my disk for quite a few years... so no. It's here and won't go away.
  • lopla, on 05/03/2008, -3/+8Well.. I installed this onto my Ubuntu desktop and tried to install about 6 apps and all failed. So now I am running virtualbox in seamless mode. Vbox seems to be doing the trick however when I try to minimize and of the windows that are running under windows half my screen truns black and it goes funny..
    • sloppychris, on 05/03/2008, -0/+10What appps did you try?

      Also virtualbox seamless mode, IMO, is more trouble than it's worth. Just keep the virtual box window on one dedicated desktop (or side of the cube) and you're fine.
    • theaceoffire, on 05/03/2008, -1/+4Turn off desktop effects and it works fine.
      I am hoping compiz or Vbox will address it one day.
    • calcium20, on 05/05/2008, -0/+1If you are running 8.04 there is a bug, run sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=0
      add the line (minus the sudo) to /etc/sysctl.conf
      this is due to the new security feature: The lower 64K of system memory is no longer addressable by default. This will help defend against malicious code that attempts to leverage kernel bugs into security vulnerabilities.

      use at your own risk, but it worked for me!
  • stormspire, on 05/03/2008, -1/+15Wine just keeps getting better and better. I only boot windows for one program now.
    • Stonekeeper, on 05/03/2008, -3/+60I only boot into windows to laugh at it!
      • HonoredMule, on 05/03/2008, -1/+4I only boot into windows to get the dirt off my steel toes.
    • whiteeagle131, on 05/03/2008, -1/+15I don't even boot windows
      • ChristmasCpp, on 05/08/2008, -0/+0I don't even have Windows installed.
    • garreh, on 05/03/2008, -1/+6I boot windows, steel caps and everything!
    • superppl, on 05/04/2008, -1/+2I don't even have windows...
  • sevenalive, on 05/03/2008, -32/+5Do we really need a story for each WINE release? This isn't really newsworthy.
    • colonelxc, on 05/03/2008, -3/+19Blasphemy!
    • blagoaw, on 05/03/2008, -0/+3People digg what they want. It's arguably an unhealthy preoccupation, but that's what digg is to most people anyway.
  • EnderW1gg1n, on 05/03/2008, -17/+1.
  • TonyBalls, on 05/03/2008, -23/+3I won't bury if its a 0.9_ update. But a 0.96_ update this is been happening for too long. Bury this people so they stop getting each minor release on the front page. I'll happily Digg when its an important release but this is *****.
    • srg13, on 05/04/2008, -0/+2You've missed the decimal point - this is Wine 0.9.61 (the sixty-first release of the 0.9 series). Wine 1.0 rc1 comes out in four days though, and 0.9.61 is fairly monumental, as it marks the start of the 1.0 feature freeze.
  • marine63, on 05/03/2008, -2/+10*hopes starcraft gets fixed by 1.0*
    • mooninite, on 05/03/2008, -0/+14What's wrong with it? There's just that Battle.net screen issue that's caused by Blizzard's shortcutting tricks to DirectDraw that arn't entirely documented... otherwise the game plays fine. I've played many a matches online with Wine.
      • Vodd9, on 05/03/2008, -3/+1Oblivion hack?
        Seriously, like half of the people on Bnet are using it. It's really ruining the online game experience.
      • ghindo, on 05/04/2008, -0/+1Battle.Net is the one reason I still even play Starcraft. I really hope it gets fixed soon. It's kind of silly that it hasn't been already, especially considering the game is ten years old.
  • Hangly, on 05/03/2008, -1/+6Please please please please please please please get the pressure and tilt sensitivity working for Wacom tablets. I will donate cash to the developer that fixes this.
    • rageguy, on 05/03/2008, -0/+8Working here, Photoshop 7, Acer C111 tablet PC with inbuilt Wacom tablet.
    • mooninite, on 05/03/2008, -0/+12Gimp 2.5 has working Wacom (stable) support. Have you tried that??

      Inkscape also works well. No need to use Wine.
  • BIOHazard87, on 05/03/2008, -0/+5How do I update from 0.9.60....... if I go to Wine's site it complains I already have it. If I tell Ubuntu to check for an update for it, it says its already newest. Someone please respond to this if you have an answer :) Thanks
    • arjie, on 05/03/2008, -0/+12You probably need to add the winehq software repository. Ubuntu usually gets their versions later.

      Instructions here: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
      • BIOHazard87, on 05/03/2008, -0/+3Yeah I've done all that but still shows no update :/. Any way to manually update?
        • srg13, on 05/03/2008, -0/+11It takes a little while for the maintainer to build it. They usually get round to doing it within a day or two, but it has taken longer in the past.
        • mooninite, on 05/03/2008, -0/+5Yeah, if you want to compile for about 30 minutes (not joking) you can build it yourself. It's a big project.
          • BIOHazard87, on 05/03/2008, -0/+4ah alright, I'll just wait it out then :/ Thanks
        • christophocles, on 05/03/2008, -3/+4zomg 30 minutes is a long compile?! Try compiling firefox, kdelibs, or openoffice, and then come back here and complain about wine being a long compile. yeah, didn't think so...
        • basotl, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1I just had the update show up for me from the mentioned Ubuntu repo. I'm installing it now.
    • YokoZar, on 05/03/2008, -0/+13You wait for me to upload the new version to the APT repository that arjie linked to. It takes a bit of time to rebuild everything once the new source is released.
  • seobk201, on 05/03/2008, -17/+0Thank you for your IT analysis of all aspects of the meticulous, but I have a problem would like to ask you, vista really selling so good, as you said it. VISTA really so? Reliable, it can tell what is the price?
  • oobuntu, on 05/03/2008, -4/+8Wine is a good project...but I'll be really impressed if/when they get games like Sims 2 working on it.
    • whiteeagle131, on 05/03/2008, -1/+22Sims 2 can't even be played on Vista
    • ruskie, on 05/03/2008, -0/+17What about half life2 cod4 wow guild wars etc? (already working)
    • Samuraizero, on 05/03/2008, -1/+5The aim of wine its not getting games playable on Linux. That's just a great collateral damage.
  • HerbSolo, on 05/03/2008, -4/+41digg.com - the official wine-releases RSS Feed.
    • MavRevMatt, on 05/03/2008, -1/+12digg.com = the official xkcd RSS Feed.
    • diggrim, on 05/03/2008, -2/+4I logged into digg just to digg this story ;)
    • bfrank72, on 05/03/2008, -1/+1digg.com = the official Zero Punctuation RSS Feed
  • thushan, on 05/03/2008, -2/+4Cheers!
  • liquidmetalband, on 05/03/2008, -20/+3So you install Linux and then celebrate that you can run Windows programs....

    .. everything is logical in the world of Linux.
    • rolf, on 05/03/2008, -0/+16We'd install Linux versions or alternatives of some of those if they existed, but they don't. They won't port programs until Linux has marketshare to create demand. People won't move until there programs run on the system. The chicken or the egg problem.
      • Shimatta1, on 05/03/2008, -1/+8Frankly, some of the most effective "fighters" on the Linux usability front are the open source apps that have both Windows and Linux versions. For someone using Firefox and Thunderbird for their internet needs, GIMP and Inkscape for drawing, and VLC for video playing, most of their needs will be met in exactly the same fashion under Linux as in Windows; the barrier to switching becomes that much lower for each cross-platform OSS program used.
    • srg13, on 05/04/2008, -0/+1One or two applications is not worth the suffering that comes with Windows (relative to my Linux setup that is - I could tolerate Windows until I made my Compiz Fusion + AWN + Gnome perfect setup)
  • WomensUnderwear, on 05/03/2008, -32/+0***** LINUX
  • linksus, on 05/03/2008, -6/+1Sweeeeet
  • Whgresiak, on 05/03/2008, -6/+2woot
  • thomasprebble, on 05/03/2008, -12/+3I thought WINE would've helped me finally switch to Linux and keep my games. Only problem was there were issues even INSTALLING games with the CD swapping NOT working (even when the AppDB insisted they would). I asked in the Freenode Wine channel and I was either told that there was a solution (which upon trying didn't work), that Ubuntu 8.04 shipped with a broken version of WINE or that WINE was still an "experimental" piece of software (while blaming the Linux architecture). I'm sorry guys but unless you get something as simple and as fundamental as that right for every user you're not going to be helping those who enjoy the occasional game switch anytime soon! I understand you're doing this on a voluntary basis but how about getting some of the basics right?
    • hayzeus, on 05/03/2008, -1/+5WINE is probably never going to be a very good solution for games, especially the latest releaes. If you want to run Linux as your primary OS, just dual boot -- disk space is incredibly cheap these days.
    • kdesu, on 05/03/2008, -0/+5"> Is there a solution to the problem of having multiple
      > CD's during an installation?
      Yes, don't run the setup from the cd directory. From your home directory, just run
      wine /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe
      like this you'll be able to unmount the cdrom, insert the second disk, and
      continue the installation." ( http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2004-Ju ... )

      Is this what you tried? It works perfectly for me. Of course, for Ubuntu, you'll probably need to run "wine /media/cdrom/etc..."
  • blagoaw, on 05/03/2008, -0/+10The volume of fixes between releases with this project is insane lately. I'm impressed. I also wonder about how carefully they guard against regressions and what their plan is to deal with them.
    • dirtyforker, on 05/04/2008, -0/+5With two week releases basically they don't guard against regressions at all. If you use the latest wine you are using the cutting edge. Regressions get fixed quickly, but this is partly because so many people use the very latest version and so regressions get found quickly. This is one of the reasons for having a version 1, so that wine can release a little bit more solid and tested version every now and then for those for whom not breaking anything is more important than having the latest functionality.
  • ImYourRealDad, on 05/03/2008, -20/+2Jesus Christ, how many times do I have to see "NEW VERSION OF WINE RELEASED!!!11!1!!" on the front page?
    • srg13, on 05/04/2008, -0/+2Umm... Whatever happens first - Wine dying or Digg dying
  • michaelb323, on 05/03/2008, -2/+7Hey kids, soon we will be able to play our our beloved PC games without the bogging down of windows. Free OS that helps us get higher FPS. As soon as ventrilo gets the linux port im dumping windows on all my machines.
    • NinjitsuStylee, on 05/03/2008, -0/+3Ventrilo works pretty well in WINE, in my experiences. I spent several months using it while playing WoW (this was a while ago, obviously). Have you tried it?
  • ism70605, on 05/03/2008, -0/+3Yes, something new to install on Mac OS X. :D Windows applications on Mac OS X here I come!
  • MrViklund, on 05/04/2008, -6/+2Whine?
  • rmccs0x, on 05/05/2008, -1/+1ENOUGH *****. release v1.00 already. you will never have 0 bugs.
  • indiehead, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1runs good on ubuntu 8.04, smoothest install ever, good work!
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