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Wine 0.9.54 Released

winehq.org — Wine 0.9.54 was released today, with the following main changes: * Photoshop CS/CS2 should now work, please help us testing it. * A number of RPC fixes. * Various improvements to the debugger support. * Lots of bug fixes.

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  • armo, on 01/26/2008, -3/+89What's new in this release:
    - Photoshop CS/CS2 should now work, please help us testing it.
    See http://wiki.winehq.org/AdobePhotoshop for details.

    Fantastic stuff. This project just keeps getting better and better. Apparently you can even get Office 2007 working with some effort
    http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/microsoft- ...

    Time to put my hands in my pockets and donate again, I hope some others will join me.
    • KhaaL, on 01/26/2008, -0/+19Definitely. I donate regularly to open-source projects. So far Blender has got all my monetary attention but wine is next, right before Compiz-fusion
      • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -0/+7I like giving to open source also. Problem is, with so many worthy causes nowdays i could find myself broke!!
        • kazamx, on 01/26/2008, -1/+7I have a pay pall account set up. I auto transfer £100 ($200) into it every month. Then whenever I feel the urge I donate to whatever caught my attention. Some months I don't donate anything, others I donate more, but every month £100 goes in, so on average its £100 a month.

          Its not just open source though. I have also donated to Podcasts I like and online radio. Anything/anyone who does something for free could get a hit from the kaz online giving fund :-p
          • mhearne, on 01/27/2008, -0/+2That's fine and well if you have the dough. Most of us do not, so we have to pick one or two specific charities during the year.

            Glad you can do it!
    • allatti2d, on 01/26/2008, -5/+3Thank you armo!!

      I have Ubuntu but it's been driving me crazy that I can't get my Office stuff there. Not to sound lame, but Yay!!
    • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -7/+2Does anyone know if the paradox keygen/activation works yet also? some error about disk space or something cryptic like that has always held us back in the past. This is CS2, running the activation section, I'm talking about btw.
    • TomWickline, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3There is a video of the install here:
      http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2008/01/microsoft- ...
      Cheers,
      Tom
    • jpkeisala, on 01/26/2008, -0/+7I joined! Just donated $20
    • ours, on 01/26/2008, -1/+4Photoshop CS2 on Linux, awesome, just the thing I've been waiting for migrating my girlfriend's computer to Ubuntu.
    • JudgeMonkey, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1Given how portable linux is, I'd donate if there was a way to scroll around the virtual desktop. It can run on things with the oddest resolutions, rendering many apps in general, unusable. One device that would benefit from this small addition would be the eee pc.
      • SteveMax, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1This has been around ever since X11. You can have a virtual desktop size different than your screen resolution; say, 1280x800 when your screen is the eee's 800x480. You scroll around it with your mouse/keyboard. You will have four (or as many as you selected) such desktops made available by your WM. I used that back on Red Hat 4.x, around 97 if memory serves me right.
      • JudgeMonkey, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1Oh? See I had a feeling that might have been an option (just seems so obvious) but couldn't find it. I could have sworn I tried making it larger but it just made a window I couldn't see the bottom of. I'll have to give that a try later. Thanks. That'll be a few more bucks their way if it works.
  • morphir, on 01/26/2008, -6/+113< classic >I can't use linux desktop as I need photoshop < /classic >
    You are running out of arguments Johnny boy!
    • thenumber8, on 01/26/2008, -17/+6use GIMPshop!!
      • whataboutdave, on 01/26/2008, -18/+1Tell your boss you are using a FOSS alternative to photoshop for your next project. See how he/she reacts.
        • armo, on 01/26/2008, -0/+30My boss for one will let me use any tool that gets the job done. He most certainly doesn't mind the fact that it's free.
        • theblt, on 01/26/2008, -8/+3Why don't you post some of your work here then armo?
      • niallabrown, on 01/26/2008, -2/+18I just did a project with Gimp, Inkscape, Scribus. My client was very impressed by the final product.
        • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -1/+7As a photoshop user i was a bit confused by GIMP but slowly i have started to work it out.
          For free software you can't complain anyway. Inkscape look's pretty good as well, i seen some really nice icons and stuff made with that. I have so much to learn *sigh*
    • Daggity, on 01/26/2008, -4/+53< new classic >I can't use linux desktop as I need photoshop cs3 < /new classic >
      :D
    • 1longtime, on 01/26/2008, -7/+22I think Wine is a dead end. Why not just make apps that work in Linux? I'm talking to you, software companies of the world.
      • Darkhacker, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4It depends on the company of course, but let's take computer games as an example. They only work with Windows because it has 90% marketshare and DirectX has become the norm for a lot of these companies. Training to learn OpenGL is very expensive. Releasing a boxed version is out of the question for Linux users, it would probably be download only.

        I think a good intermediate solution would be for companies to develop against winelib or maybe even contribute patches until their Windows product works. Thus they can gain marketshare to non-Windows platforms with little effort while improving WINE too.
        • Jorophose, on 01/28/2008, -1/+1Oh please. Every good programmer uses OpenGL; it is in every way superior to D3D9 and 10. It's even easier to learn, all things considered. And it allows them to port to every mainstream device; Wii, PS3, and PCs of all kinds use OpenGL, you just have to change the system calls to fit the appropriate machines.

          No, they're not doing this because MS has been giving them kickbacks. Wine is much better for an "experimental" release on Linux or OSX, or having access to older software.
      • paretoj, on 01/26/2008, -0/+19Even if Linux achieved 100% market share on the desktop, Wine would still be a useful project. There's a lot of older softaware written for Windows that many people would want to use, just like how a lot of people play older console games like Nintendo and Super Nintendo. In fact, Wine would be better than emulation since it's a reimplementation of Windows on Linux, not an emulator.
        • tracker1, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1Don't go throwing information and logic in my face... that's like explaining that the entire Java or .Net runtime libraries don't load because you want to run a single app... *sigh* the fact is, wine is overall a good thing.. it would be nice (as mentioned above) if some game companies tested against the wine versions that come with the current distros... say 6 months before projected release... no colossal changes, but at least awareness would be good... How many changes would be necessary to get an app running on windows, and in wine, if they tested in both from earlier on... no significant changes in programming methods, or even distribution.
      • sdaf, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4We're getting there, but in the meantime wine is a very nice solution both for new and old applications.
      • srg13, on 01/26/2008, -0/+8Wine is a solution to the chicken and egg problem that is hindering Linux adoption - people aren't going to switch if they can't run the apps they are used to, but developers won't port their software because they don't think there are enough Linux users. Wine offers a temporary solution
    • inkswamp, on 01/26/2008, -3/+20I don't want to get into a platform war because I think Linux, Windows and Mac OS X all have their place in the world, but the only people implying that people should switch to Linux because you can run Photoshop under Wine, aren't using it professionally. There's no reason to shoehorn one platform's strength into another platform just because. The design world standardized on Macs, for better or worse, and as a result, all the publishing systems, utilities, plug-ins and software tends to be Mac-first or in some cases Mac-only. If you work in design or publishing, you see it. (Just last year, I oversaw the installation and set up of two advertising-related production systems for publishing work that were Mac-only.) If you think I'm making that up, just pick up an industry magazine and look at what the top design and print houses are using. Whether they can run Photoshop on Linux is not an issue. It's all the other stuff out there.
      • FKnight, on 01/26/2008, -3/+11Buried for bringing facts based on educated and professional experience to Digg.

        You know the routine. Fall in line buddy.

      • Aitese, on 01/26/2008, -1/+2Your lack of fanboyism is disturbing...logic on Digg? For shame sir
      • olbap, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2This is true. Designers are not technologists so the Mac platform shines for these types of people. However, anything that can be done on a Mac from a design perspective can easily be done on a PC. There is practically no differences. Macs still get used because that is tradition.
        • inkswamp, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1Wow, that sounds really condescending ("for these types of people.") I know a lot of designers with better-than-average computer skills so trying to pigeon-hole them is sort of strange. Whatever the case, it's the same story with the financial and business applications which standardized around Windows. There's nothing in that kind of work that a Mac or Linux machine couldn't handle, but when so much exists for one platform, then it's the "best" operating system for that kind of work. Windows gets used in business settings so much because of the same tradition that places Macs firmly in design and publishing.
    • CognitiveD, on 01/26/2008, -4/+2Well, I'm sure gonna consider installing gentoo again because of this.

      -Johnny boy
    • shinda, on 01/26/2008, -2/+1Being someone who uses linux as my primary home desktop OS, windows at work and mac when I get a macbook in my hands every know and then, the font rendering in linux still sucks balls. Even with all the freetype upgrades it can be made to be decent, but not all sites/apps conform to the font rules. Although I got it looking pretty right now, it still takes to much time and effort to accomplish.

      But yes, one small step for wine, one giant leap for linux.
  • thtroyer, on 01/26/2008, -8/+38w00t.

    I'm such a dork... getting excited over FOSS releases. I'm not alone in this, am I? Guys?
    • sirhomer, on 01/26/2008, -2/+11No. One of the many reasons I look forward to Fridays.
  • StanStutter, on 01/26/2008, -7/+19I'm going to take a "wait and see" approach. Wine users tend to use an alternative definition to the word "works". I've been burned by it before.
    • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -1/+17*points gloved finger* I find your lack of faith disturbing.
    • srg13, on 01/26/2008, -1/+9What are you waiting for? Photoshop CS2 works flawlessly for me - it has for a few months now, but there was an activation issue that was just fixed.
      • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -1/+3activation fixed?!!? i can finally keygen it? WOOT!
        • srg13, on 01/26/2008, -0/+6Yeah - that's how I did it - the keygen generated both the key, and then I used "Phone Activation' in Photoshop and it gave me a code which, when pasted into the keygen app will give you an activation code.

          But, I only did that because I can't install CS3 (Of which I actually own a licence)
  • bj1989, on 01/26/2008, -0/+30Photoshop CS2 is actually on the list of 1.0 requirements.
  • schestowitz, on 01/26/2008, -4/+31http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px ...
    Photoshop CS2 by default? Not too shabby! That will kill another platform migration barrier.
    • atdigg, on 01/26/2008, -3/+13Now will hear less of "but doesn't run Photoshop" tired argument when discussion about Linux viability as desktop (I think it's a specious argument anyway because not THAT many people use Photoshop)
      • Radian, on 01/26/2008, -8/+1Now we'll hear. Are you from the south? And specious in this context is not correct either.
        • atdigg, on 01/26/2008, -2/+5I wanted to say "spurious" but hey edit button in digg is close to useless.
        • geminitojanus, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2"And specious in this context is not correct either."
          Specious, adj.
          "Having the ring of truth or plausibility but actually fallacious: a specious argument"

          Mommy needs to get you a new dictionary for Christmas.
      • FKnight, on 01/26/2008, -8/+1Not that many people use PHOTOSHOP? Dude, get out of your basement.

        Bury me if you want, but it only proves you can't stand facts when it gets in the way of Linux Zealotry.



        • trogdoor, on 01/26/2008, -0/+9He meant that the vast majority of Desktop users do not use or need Photoshop.
        • jsebrech, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3There's a difference between starting up photoshop only to change image size and brightness/contrast and starting up photoshop to actually use it. The number of users who truly NEED photoshop is less than a third of those who claim to need it, and that's a very generous estimate.

          I used to say I needed photoshop myself. Then I came down off the high mountain of self-declared geekdom. I don't use CMYK or color profiles. I don't use any of the stuff only photoshop has. Paint.net, gimp or pixelmator are just fine for me.

          • GMorgan, on 01/26/2008, -0/+5Most people don't use Photoshop in any case. Very few in fact do.

            Most people I know use MS Paint.
          • ISIfunded911, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1I am like you: in Linux I am perfectly happy with digikam.
          • bhalo05, on 01/27/2008, -1/+1And those who really need to use are never going to do so under Wine.
  • kaytrio, on 01/26/2008, -1/+29That's awesome. Congrats on getting such a HUGE application working!
  • ddorent, on 01/26/2008, -63/+7STOP DIGGING EVERY POINT 0001 UPDATE TO WINE
    and by the way it IS an emulator
    • allatti2d, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3Like I care? I'm glad these things are getting dugg!! I'm a freaking n00b!!
    • AceofSpades19, on 01/26/2008, -0/+15can you explain how it is an emulator, when the devs clearly say its not
      • trogdoor, on 01/26/2008, -2/+4Because back when WINE originally stood for "WINdows Emulator" people thought of processor architecture emulators which are unbearably slow, and therefore mistakenly believed that wine was also, but re-implementation of the win32 API is "emulation" none the less.
    • skywake, on 01/26/2008, -2/+12Wine is not an emulator....
      • Giga, on 01/28/2008, -0/+0And bricks are transparent. It doesn't really matter if someone says Wine is not an emulator, stating it does not make it so.
    • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -2/+7ddorent, here is a lesson you moron; emulation of the whole OS is an emulator. Bits of it is not.
      Get back to whatever blog you crawled out of.
      • chugger1992, on 01/26/2008, -2/+5even with a whole OS it is still called a virtualization.
        • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -1/+3true, i was thinking more along the lines of emulate an entire gaming console and such stuff when i typed that out. I should have been more clear.
        • djbon2112, on 01/26/2008, -1/+6It's an "emulator" when it's emulating a different processor architecture and instruction set.
    • vuke69, on 01/26/2008, -2/+6Wine Is Not an Emulator.

      Think of it as mapping calls to the windows APIs to the linux equivalents.
    • hadak, on 01/26/2008, -2/+9It's an API layer...not an emulator.
    • VinceNoir, on 01/26/2008, -5/+2Instructions to save face for making idiotic comments about that which you have no knowledge of:

      1. Open mouth wide with mouth facing ground
      2 Let all of Steve BallMe's jizz come out of your mouth
      3. Once emptied of the decade's worth of cum, rinse your mouth with gasoline
      4. Light match
      5. Place in mouth

      K-thnx!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!11ELEVENTY
    • rastakid, on 01/26/2008, -0/+6Don't feed the trolls :S
  • ssam, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2494 bugs until 1.0
    http://bugs.winehq.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW& ...
    (up 1 since the 0.9.53 release)
    • XaeroVincent, on 02/02/2008, -0/+0Wine is an Win32 API implementation with a DirectX to OpenGL converter.

      Wine actually provides libraries for developing software on. But most people just use Wine as a way to run their Windows apps.
  • Jennica, on 01/26/2008, -5/+1I haven't got an update thing.
  • wukillabee, on 01/26/2008, -7/+1yay more bug fixes
  • xdvx, on 01/26/2008, -3/+79Great! But wine sucks at one thing very much. I had 3 windows viruses downloaded to my linux system, but I couldn't run any of them with wine
    • skywake, on 01/26/2008, -0/+29Just take out a stick of RAM and post your IP all over the internets. At least then you can pretend that your computer has a virus :P
      • Elvaanish, on 01/26/2008, -1/+5Digg it for the serious lulz. I havent laughed so hard in a long, long time.
    • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -2/+12I seen an article on here someplace with a guy who on purpose infected his wine install with windows email virus attachment nasties.He got them running under wine and it screwed it all up. It was quite funny, and proves it can be done anyhow,
    • kahrytan, on 01/26/2008, -1/+2actually, some viruses do run in WINE and it's hilarious on what they do. Just makes headaches but it's easily cleaned up.
  • shadowblade989, on 01/26/2008, -29/+6Do we need a digg story for every x.x.# update of wine?
    • mccord, on 01/26/2008, -5/+26do we need to hear this question in every digg story about a new wine release? :P
    • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -3/+13shadowblade989, why digg the article and then complain about it? deep down inside you have a heart it seems.
      Fail troll is fail.
    • whataboutdave, on 01/26/2008, -3/+8shadowblade = "that guy"
    • technoredneck, on 01/26/2008, -1/+4Yes, and I would digg them every day if a new version was released daily. Wine is an amazing project, i.e. my ticket to a Windows-free computing world.
  • mglukhovsky, on 01/26/2008, -1/+6Has anyone tried to get CS3 running on the latest version? Creative Suite (particularly Photoshop and Illustrator) are one of the last few reasons I'm using Windows.
    • Damien79, on 01/26/2008, -0/+7CS3 is a no go still. CS2 for now mate. I've tried and failed a few times with CS3 now.
      http://appdb.winehq.org/
    • oblique63, on 01/26/2008, -5/+3Seriously, Im sick of using XP in Virtualbox at work to get my work done, its just wasting unnecissary resources...
      but yea, I definately suggest that the wine project focus on CS3 apps a lot, cause that alone is one of the few Major roadblocks still keeping a lot of people from migrating to linux, and Im willing to bet that when that gets resolved, that we'll see a major flood of new users in the linux community... I mean, the open source alternatives are great, but when comparing them to the Adobe suite when it comes to serious design work, they're practically toys...
      • djbon2112, on 01/26/2008, -4/+11Oh please. Seriously, how many people ACTUALLY use Photoshop regularly enough to prevent them from abandoning Windows? Barely anyone. It's just a convenient excuse for the lazy. I gave up the excuses, moved, and I've never been happier.
        • FKnight, on 01/26/2008, -9/+1People are seriously digging your comment up because they agree that hardly anyone uses Photoshop.

          Very sad. I'm convinced. You people can't actually be real. There's no freaking way. No actual living person is that ignorant of the world.

          • Mathiasdm, on 01/26/2008, -0/+7And you can't seriously think that many people require Photoshop CS3.
            CS2 works, and only graphics professionals (and only part of those) will require features not present in CS2.
          • djbon2112, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1Exactly. For 90% of the people out there, Photoshop isn't an issue. For another 80% of those for whom is IS an issue, the OSS alternatives (not necissarially GIMP but the others) will do the job. The only people this REALLY affects are graphics professionals. Stop whining and looking for excuses.
        • srg13, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3Unfortunately I do - Being able to run Photoshop on my favourite OS is great, but I have to keep a Windows machine hanging around for the other apps - mainly After Effects.
          • voyvf, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Tried VMWare? The combination of Wine and VMWare has saved my happy arse from having to deal with a separate physical machine for running Win apps any number of times.
          • djbon2112, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1Yes, but are you an average person? Do you use Photoshop at least once a week? If you answered No/Yes, then your point, and FKnight below's, have some validity. Otherwise, it's just another excuse, like gaming.
      • ours, on 01/29/2008, -0/+1Designers and the lot?
  • devmaster, on 01/26/2008, -13/+2mac and VMware FTW!
    • trogdoor, on 01/26/2008, -0/+7Wine works in OS X too...
      • voyvf, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2On Intel machines, yes. It's never worked for the PPC architecture* - one of the reasons I was so happy to see them move to Intel.

        * Though there's a separate project/branch called 'Darwine' (http://wiki.winehq.org/Darwine ) that's working on it.
  • hadak, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4# Bridge CS2 (and therefore File/Browse in Photoshop CS2) doesn't work yet.
    • srg13, on 01/26/2008, -0/+5I just tried, and you're right... But in the meantime, File->Open is enough for me
      • hadak, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Of course I'm right - I pulled it right from their wiki page. :) I figure that's a pretty big feature, however, I would agree that File -> Open is probably enough for most people. I was unaware that that particular feature still worked.
  • sdlvx, on 01/26/2008, -2/+5WINE makes it harder and harder to keep using windows. It's too bad I'll never see a fully functional cmedia 8788 driver for ALSA, or else I would go for linux on my desktop full time. I guess on the desktop is alright.
    • ruskie, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4The driver is rewritten in alsa v1.0.16rc1 might work better now
      • sdlvx, on 02/10/2008, -0/+1Oh, I had no idea .16 was out. Thanks.
  • Jereso, on 01/26/2008, -13/+1I'll make the switch when I get Zune Support. And CS3 would be VERY nice.
  • segiterrus, on 01/26/2008, -1/+17Yes! Time to get drunk!
  • doctoralf, on 01/26/2008, -8/+5Yay for Photoshop, how about throwing Word 2007 a bone?
  • Lenny, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3Photoshop CS worked perfectly before. CS2 however.. oy!
    • shinda, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1I've always had problems with Photoshop, can get it work and use, but the windows constantly overlap on another repeatidly.
  • thushan, on 01/26/2008, -1/+5Cheers!
  • viksmaester, on 01/26/2008, -3/+2whats that again?
  • abid8740, on 01/26/2008, -3/+3Wow, honestly If I can get MS OneNote 2007 working on linux I would switch in a heart beat...
  • Dylson, on 01/26/2008, -29/+1LINUX SUCKS!
    • Gatesgamer33, on 01/26/2008, -0/+9Do you want to do something productive with your life or just be an A-hole? *looks up at previous comment* Nevermind, you just answered my question.
    • Smegzor, on 01/26/2008, -1/+8Your capslock appears to be stuck. I suggest you try freeing it with Linux ;)
  • 1timeuser, on 01/26/2008, -8/+2Great news for PS... now if they could jest get the iTunes store working...
  • FKnight, on 01/26/2008, -17/+1This comment section is quite possibly the saddest circle jerk that has ever been known to exist since the discovery of fire.
    • Smegzor, on 01/26/2008, -3/+1I agree! Appearently my session has expired and NOTHING changes that. Its totally random and totally pissing me the ***** off!
      Hmm.. it appears to be a problem only when the replies are deeply nested.
    • trogdoor, on 01/26/2008, -1/+2Circle jerk + fire sounds dangerous.
  • dawnraid101, on 01/26/2008, -20/+4tommorow - wow Wine 0.9.5400000001 has been released lets all digg it like any one actually give a sht!!!! yay!!!!
    • srg13, on 01/26/2008, -2/+7Is it so hard for you to believe that people are actually interested in this - or would you prefer to see more stupid pictures and videos?
  • geumjah, on 01/26/2008, -10/+3I recently installed Ubuntu and was plagued with little problems such as being unable to install apps because some other program was running. After toying around with it I finally shut down the programs but still couldn't install a simple app. I went into the freenode chat asking for help but was just ignored. I was under the impression that Linux users are happy to help the newbs but I was wrong. Truth be told I liked Ubuntu and was thoroughly dissapointed with my experience. Needless to say I'm back using Vista. I hate it but what else can I do?
    • PlaneLayz, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4Best place for support for Ubuntu is on Ubuntuforums.org. Im sorry about your experience. I imagine the problem you were having was the Auto-Updater. That or add me to MSN and ill do what I can to help you.

      Im sure there are others like me out there willing to do what they can for people having a hard time.
    • Dheart, on 01/26/2008, -2/+2It's that you chose the wrong place to seek for help....
      Also though Ubuntu is the most user-friendly distro out there the community is by far the worst I've seen. Why? Simply because anyone who advanced into Linux sees how bloated and slow Ubuntu is then change to other distro, so the % of competent users on ubuntuforums is really low...
      Anyway have you read the ubuntu wiki? Have you posted on the forums? Then why are you complaining about the community?
      • thtroyer, on 01/26/2008, -2/+1There are many well-intentioned users on Ubuntuforums... and there are a number of advanced and helpful users, but a lot of the time, it seems that it becomes newbies helping newbies... not that there's anything wrong with it, but that's how it is.
      • Protoss, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1Ubuntu bloated? How? You can uninstall and re-tool anything in the OS...
        • Dheart, on 01/26/2008, -0/+0I used ubuntu for while a long time ago... and yes it is bloated... It preinstalls many apps, which no one uses, the startup is slow, there are many daemons starting by default and the average ubuntu user can't disable them, nor edit xorg.conf in order to change nv to nvidia or ati to fglrx by himself or even compile an application ... You don't believe me about? Go to http://bbs.archlinux.org and search the word ubuntu and select newbie corner forum. Every single (Yes, every single) ubuntu user who tries to move to arch says how amazing the speed improvement is...
          Also you may go to gentoo forums and see the same thing...
        • srg13, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1"even compile an application"

          'sudo apt-get build-essentials' should fix that
  • DomZy, on 01/26/2008, -2/+5I'm still waiting for office 2007. At the moment it's the only reason I ever boot into my XP partition. Open Office is just not at that standard yet.
    • Emperial, on 01/26/2008, -3/+2and I doubt Open Office will ever be, it's just to dam heavy...
      • andycr512, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3I never understand why people say OO.o is slow... It starts in about one second after the initial start, on Linux at least.
      • Jorophose, on 01/28/2008, -0/+0Oh shut up Emperial. Seriously, people who complain about OpenOffice's startup speeds are just full of *****.

        Did you ever wonder for a minute why Vista takes a good 5 minutes to boot up for most people? I'll give you a hint, it's two words, one starts with O the other starts with C, and it's like legos.
  • Andrewweber, on 01/26/2008, -1/+5Now Windows users don't have an excuse to run Windows
    • jpkeisala, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3I don't think we are there yet...
    • DestroyFascism, on 01/26/2008, -0/+5But I can't run CS3.....(just kidding, I can't afford CS3....)
      • srg13, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2If you're a student, you can get a suite (I have Production Premium) for about $340 or something
        • stalefries, on 01/27/2008, -0/+3Chances are, if you're a student, you still can't afford it. :)
  • Emperial, on 01/26/2008, -0/+9Wine always gets my vote :D Great project...
  • reazal, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Someone please tell me how to upgrade to this version. Mine is 0.9.46 and using Gutsy.
  • KidDeath, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3i've been running CS2 since .9.5.48...

    theres only two bugs that bother me, you can't register, and the z-index of the windows gets screwed up, so alot of the times the 'menu'options will go behind the window instead of infront. I found a work around on both of this, wonder if that helped them fix it

    anyways, we'll see, i didn't have any other problems in CS2 except that. so, here's hopin
    • srg13, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1I had both of those bugs, and they are fixed in this release.
    • KidDeath, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1not for me...
  • KidDeath, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2RE: post above that i did.

    you still can't register

    and the Z-index is still messed up, so the usability of CS2 has not changed in this verison. for me anyways.
  • Dheart, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Sadly the new version breaks completely WarCraft III/The Frozen Throne... Now you cannot even start the game...
  • twodayslate, on 01/26/2008, -2/+1Wine is great but we do not need an update on digg for every release. Glad pshop works but CS2 was on ubuntu for some time already now.
  • koreth, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1From the FAQ:

    Mac OS X / Darwin: The Darwine project is currently working on porting Wine to the Darwin/x86 platform. Their goal is to eventually make it possible to run x86 Windows applications on Darwin/PPC and then Mac OS X by using Bochs. In addition, CodeWeavers has focused some of their resources on Intel Mac OS X as well. With a little luck, Wine will be running on it by the third quarter of 2006.

    So... it being 2008 now, how'd that go? Looks like the Darwine project is moribund, but the winehq home page says WINE runs on OS X. No download for OS X on the download page, though, and the Wiki seems to indicate that it's sort of kind of half-working at the moment.
    • randeepjalli0, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2have you ever heard of crossover mac? IIRC you can buy it from bestbuy and even circuit city...
    • ism70605, on 01/26/2008, -0/+0It works just download the source install the 15 or so dependencies, install them in the correct magical order while waiting an hour for each to compile, then finally install wine. It is so simple. gosh. But seriously it works; however, it does not seem as compatible as it is on Linux.
  • Tuxbunta, on 01/26/2008, -1/+1I have office 2007 (pbay version) burned to a dvd. Is there any way I can get it to run with wine?
    • Jorophose, on 01/28/2008, -0/+0Yes.

      1. quit downloading from TBP
      2. Quit using crap like Office
      3. Get KOffice
      4. ???
      5. Profit
  • Ratteler, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1Not to sound ungrateful, but how about Illustrator and Flash?
  • marybaboo, on 01/27/2008, -0/+2One of my favorite Linux apps! This calls for some free Linux Stickers: http://www.tinyduck.com/quack/linux_stickers
  • Smegzor, on 01/27/2008, -0/+3I tested some games and now Portal and Garry's Mod works. GM was working until a recent update to the TF2 engine. I don't have TF2 but with Portal now working I'm pretty sure TF2 will work too.

    My list of working games now includes;
    BF1942
    BF2
    Thief 2
    Portal
    HalfLife2 and Garry's Mod
    Wolf ET
    World of Padman
    and several nobody but I care about :P
    • lab16, on 01/29/2008, -0/+1Wolf ET has native linux support, you don't have to use wine for it.
  • InorganicMatter, on 01/27/2008, -5/+2I love Linux, but Wine is pointless. An open source project that needs closed source DLLs to work? Come on. Just dual-boot Windows, sure makes it a whole lot easier, and doesn't violate "open source principles" any worse than Wine does.
    • Jorophose, on 01/28/2008, -0/+3Doesn't require closed-source DLLs...
    • stix213, on 01/28/2008, -0/+2What closed source DLL's does your version require? Where are you getting your information?
      winehq.org says that you can optionally install closed-source DLL's if that helps you (never has for me, but I have seen some others say it got a specific app to work for them from time to time)
  • ardklg, on 01/28/2008, -0/+0After playing with CS2, I actually prefer Photoshop CS for its integrated file browser (as opposed to the more bloated Bridge application). I've got a few plugins that give me any other needed features. The only issues I've encountered are that some plugins don't display all their options quite right (BW Styler, for example), but the options are still all usable.

    Now that I have Photoshop CS and CorelDraw 11 working in Wine, I'll need to fire up VMware much less often.
  • stix213, on 01/28/2008, -0/+0I'll stick with photoshop 7 thank you. At least 7 doesn't have the government anti money scanning technology built in. (For something fun, in CS or later try scanning a $20 bill and see what happens, it is pretty funny)
  • yodasama, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1bug# 11174 which causes the installers for Battlefield 1942 and Star Wars Battlegrounds (maybe more) to hang since 0.9.53 is reportedly still in 0.9.54.
  • HeroreV, on 01/30/2008, -0/+1Wine is completely worthless for me as long as I can't change the font size. Wine has a dialog for changing the font size, but it doesn't actually do anything. My monitor has a higher-than-average DPI, so I can't see ***** at the default size. All the text is just little squiggles.

    So I'll continue to run my Windows programs in a virtual machine. I don't want that nasty proprietary ***** touching my precious computer anyway.
  • mcwest, on 02/01/2008, -0/+0wine is good piece of software we should appreciate cmmunity's job bravo folks
  • XaeroVincent, on 02/02/2008, -0/+0Wine is an Win32 API implementation with a DirectX to OpenGL converter.

    Wine actually provides libraries for developing software on. But most people just use Wine as a means to run their Windows apps.
  • foster90, on 05/24/2008, -0/+0http://www.genericsmed.com
    http://www.generics.ws
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