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- YokoZar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+59Hey, I make the Ubuntu packages. I've just finished uploading the Edgy ones now. The Dapper ones should be available by tomorrow, where I'll also be installing Feisty in order to make official Feisty packages. However, if you're using Feisty, you can actually install the Edgy packages directly into Feisty without doing anything special - I've been told they work fine. Once the Feisty ones are ready, they'll replace the edgy ones smoothly since they'll have a higher version number.
An important feature for this release is the removal of the aRts sound driver. This should once and for all squash the lingering bug that caused winecfg to crash when clicking the audio tab: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/42169 . The reason was broken handling of aRts at the driver level (ie, outside of Wine's control), however hopefully this fix will mean that Wine 0.9.35 will sneak its way into Ubuntu Feisty. - mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34It would be nearly impossible to do that now. Cedega is using a heaviliy modified version of the WINE branch from several *YEARS* ago and the current WINE code is in a complete opposite direction of where Cedega is (for the better).
They'd have to dump one or the other's code.
Plus Cedega would never go open source. - burkay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23Not everything, but it is close to that. Closer than Windows.
- Lorian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18It's really not difficult, just run this and be on your way:
git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git wine && cd wine && ./configure && make depend && make && sudo make install - Lorian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Cedega is under contract not to release portions of their code anyway (Securom and Safedisc IIRC).
- vecna, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Note that it includ the Vista options in winecfg also :)
- antiNeo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21It's already in portage.
- Marthinus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13@over9
Linux to me has everything I need but unfortunately company policy forces me to use Microsoft Office at work, which means I need WINE to run the Office suite on my machine. This includes Microsoft Outlook paired with Exchange Server and no POP3 or IMAP support. So that sort of limits my options, with WINE I do not need to install Windows XP to do my work.
For games though I just dual boot or use my separate games PC, to much hassle for not enough gain, I only play games for approx. 4 hours a week. - Lorian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Just compile from source, or better, git.
- nofrak1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Funny so see Gentoo and Ubuntu providing different options for their users so that they can have their machines work the way they want them to, which is the point of Free and Open Source software.
Come on kids, lets play nice. - burkay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Any chances of a 64bit Wine soon?
- Lorian, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Works fine for me, using 64-bit Linux.
- bj1989, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9When YoKozar(manages ubuntu wine packages) compiled it and created a deb, which will be in one two or three days. Meanwhile you can download the source and compile it yourself.
- rmxz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Which is more Windows (XP or 2000) compatible, Wine or Vista?
I suspect Wine has better Win2000 compatibility than Vista, at least. - awhiteflame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Eh, I woke up to a wine update from Ubuntu this morning. Quicker than anticipated.
- antiNeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I think if you really care about the future of Linux, you should try donating your time submiting bug reports to the Wine project rather than paying five bucks a month (that's $60 every year!) to the Cedega project.
- Lorian, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8It's easier to make a new ebuild for Portage, pretty much a copy and paste from the previous version. In Ubuntu it has to be compiled first.
- iwod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Will we ever see this working on Mac?
Darwine was dead long ago > - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why, so we can ***** pay for it? No thanks.
- cdmarcus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+41) try it
2) stable isn't an adverb - Cbaar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4smartposterior {
It is actually not an implementation of Windows (that would include too much), but of the Windows API.
} - antiNeo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's called a port.
- Scourge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It works perfectly fine, if it doesn't you broke something on your system.
-Running 64bit AMD Gentoo Linux - martinnn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I wish they would finish implementing "empty" API-stubs (for examples all related to IO completion ports in ntdll.dll) instead of making things like improving file performance. To me it would make more sense to implement ALL API's first, even if the implementations aren't perfect performance-wise, and then start improving performance.
- shinda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I had photoshop running fine since 9.33
- Lorian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4geminitojanus: New packages are marked as unstable, meaning it hasn't gone through rigorous testing, but if you want it to be completely up-to-date you can get it straight away. Once it has gone through testing it is marked as stable.
- Lorian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2badbox: Impossible, as it's not an emulator it only runs on x86 platforms (Ie. what Windows uses).
- michaelpe2051, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2earlier someone made the comment that WINE had better old application support for windows 2000 and prior apps than VISTA. i would whole heartedly agree! VISTA has horrible application support for older apps. i have been using VISTA for almost a year now and i can say that VISTA'S poor job at older application compatability. seems to be a deliberate attempt to ensure older applications fail in attempt to make you buy new ones. i especially have noticed a high failure rate when using the app. compatability wizard on older microsoft applications. i beleive that VISTA has been designed from the ground up to ensure failure in mostly older microsoft products because microsoft has a financial interest in your replacing all those older microsoft apps.
- samadam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2goddam it. working on getting it to work on mac is a bitch, but I have hope. Maybe an easy installer would be a nice project to work on? (freetype, fontforge, some $PATH stuff are all that are needed after xcode and x11).
- sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2cedega's cvs code is pretty out of date i hear
- sjug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Every two weeks i get my wine fix. Wine!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Glad to see Wine making constant improvements. I wish phpBB3 was that way.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Need a PPC64 version so I can attempt to get WoW running on my PS3.
- DigitalJester, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Nuts to that. I'll wait, thank you very much.
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There's a fontforge package for Mac here: http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/mac-install.html
- noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@antineo
Yea. Already in portage, and my stupid Gentoo box is still compiling it. I've gotta start using Debian again. - UKsHaDoW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think there pretty much the same. It just makes the applications think there running on that os....I think
- fatas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The default font has changed in this release. The Window's close, minimise & maximise buttons have reverse "?" marks. How do I fix this.
- ldog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@digitaljester.
You should probably just follow Lorian's advice. Whoever is maintaining wine for fedora was doing a great job for a while, but stopped at version .9.32 which is now 3 versions and 2 and a half months old. An enternity considering wine's rapid development lately. - SirNuke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As a heads up for Ubuntu users, the 0.9.35 packages might be broken ( http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2007-April/055946.html ). Compiling from source seems to be working okay
- antiNeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@bmartin
Uhh, there's only one portage repo. You need to run 'emerge --sync' in order to get the latest packages. - Leffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They will not release daily -- the development snapshots are bi-weekly and that is unlikely to change.
- bnolsen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's nice to have options. As a developer I find debian totally limiting for dev work. For low end machines I find gentoo painful to maintain.
There really isn't some "perfect" distro out there. Pick and choose as you need.
I'm utterly greatful that Wine + the borland 5.5.1 compiler gives me the ability to totally not have to deal with windows directly for cross platform software develpment anymore, except to the extent that the software needs to be compiled with studio (ugh). - YokoZar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've fixed them and uploaded new packages now. Sorry about this.
- dremeda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Will Photoshop run stable?
- bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@antiNeo: Which Portage repo are you using? Many Portage repos are still at 0.9.34.
- Vash63, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Yep, already got it on both of my Gentoo machines. Funny to see Ubuntu so popular yet updating so much less frequently.
- oliveroms, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4afaik you can still get the cedega code from cvs, not easily but it still works. Not that you want it though. Support them with measly 5 bux for their work, do it once a year and you'll get updated at least once year :)
The way I see it, Cedega is for DX games. Wine for everything else. Maybe Crossover office for office, but I prefer, and try to use wine as much as possible (if I need it at all that is). - vulgrin, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6So, what, only 10 more years now until Version 1?
- Megatog615, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6Anyone know when this will hit their Ubuntu repository?
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