What is Digg?51 Comments
- Sp1k3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Does it work in WINE?
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Thanks for filing that tremendously helpful bug report.
- cloakeddagger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13who says debian -> ubuntu is a one way street.
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7It creates a file within Windows, and it's basically a partition within that file, so your data won't get destroyed! ;)
- syco123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You can re-label your drives easily enough in XP.
Right click My Computer>Manage>Disk Management
Right click the drives you want to change and select 'relabel drives and paths'.
I hope that sorts you out! - shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4a diggers time is a precious commodity, get the jist by checking out the screenshots:
http://goodbye-microsoft.com/more.html
(though it appears to be struggling at the moment...) - Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@sammcj2000:
If you're curious as to why you got dugg down:
While you made a good point, the parent wasn't making a comparison between Debian and Ubuntu, he was saying, 'who says the flow of innovation only goes from debian to ubuntu'. This project was a spawn off a Ubuntu project. - raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Now its good that this idea is picking up support in more than one distribution. Doubtless that other distributions (heck, even non-Unix-like OSes like Syllable and Haiku) will pick up on this.
- n0xie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They should also have a torrent mirror somewhere. Save the debian foundation some bandwidth.
Not all torrent traffic is associated with piracy ;) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2direct download link for the truly lazy... (hey, it saves two clicks; time is money baby)
http://people.debian.org/~rmh/goodbye-microsoft/pub/debian.exe - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3schestowitz:
not a bad idea at all. The way I see it, Debian is like "Ubuntu Pro" (or Ubuntu is like a "Debian w/ training wheels") of sorts; less bells and whistles and a bit trickier to get working "out of the box", but a much cleaner and more solid platform to work on once you really know the ins&outs of GNU/Linux (with debianized package management). If Ubuntu had been around when I started using Linux; my preferred distro path would have been Knoppix (or Gnoppix) -> Ubuntu -> Debian.
Ubuntu already has debootstrap in the repositories, so you *can* already do this fairly easily (follow the "install from existing linux" in the documentation); but it might be nice to make a full-fledged installer script. - mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Haha.. I wonder. Some time back there was a story on digg which claimed that the WGA wizard recognizes WINE as genuine Windows XP SP2.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2hehe, I just tried it. Most of it works, then it fails after downloading the kernel and initrd with:
"Can't find boot.ini
Your version of Windows may be old or damaged"
Although, I'm not running WINE with a "real" Windows installation; maybe it would work (or just get further before it failed) if you have your WINE drive links pointing to your real windows partitions. - kandresen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Good start, been thinking of such an transition before, only a few things I hope will be part of the installer in the future:
1) it should not only detect cpu requirements, but try to autodetect all hardware including network connections, modems, wireless adapters, etc etc
2) check and verify the current staus drivers for these devices for linux, indicating weather support exist through open drivers or proprietary
3) get the current configuration of these devices network setup, the wireless network access keys (so wireless may work without manually entering the wap/wep keys)
By having an easy way to see that printers, scanners, and other devices are working, I believe many more would try in the first place. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2not quite:
the installer (which is a very stripped down GNU/Linux) runs inside windows, but the primary working system is installed to a regular partition just like a standard CD install.
This is just another way to bootstrap the installer. - d722002, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would say this is great for people with older laptops that dont have CD-ROM's or dont support booting from them... I myself have a Toshiba Portege 7010ct (made in 1994) that is running XP (PII, 96mb RAM). It runs amazingly fast, but Linux is faster yet... only problem is: To install Linux on the laptop, you must first purchase a Standard > Laptop IDE connector, remove the HDD from the laptop, place it into a desktop with similar specs, install Linux, obtain/compile/install drivers for the laptop hardware, reconfigure X so that it will start up on the laptop, shut down, pull the HDD and put it back in the laptop, boot up, and pray.
Now I just have to click "Next >" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yes; just like installing from a CD, from floppies, from the network, from a flash drive, etc.
It still uses the standard installation routine; this is just another way to get it started. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it looks like they're back up again...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://sianka.free.fr/?lang=en
Well, it looks like apt-torrent is already in the works. Getting it working seamlessly with the installer might be tricky; but you can always install a bare minimum system, install apt-torrent, and then get the rest (which is probably 99% of the download for a desktop system)
"The apt-torrent repository is now feeding the 70 largest debian unstable (aka sid) and 70 largest debian testing (aka etch) packages via BitTorrent." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2When I tried to install it I received 404 error... No, really....
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No... it does relatively low level things involving the windows boot loader and ntfs file system that simply aren't replicated in WINE. You could always run it in vmware if you're desperate.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I dunno about the forums, but I usually find the people on the #debian IRC channels very nice and helpful. Not to mention that it's faster service.
The developer crowd can get a bit fussy, but your average Debian user is really quite pleasant. - codyman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's 404ing on me too... i have a feeling though that the digg effect has royally ***** their servers...
- RajAtWork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1rootneg2: at least for the RedHat-like distros, you don't need stack of floppies, only two. I wish they publicized this fact more, but it is entirely possible to do a network install of many Linuxes, once you boot from a floppie.
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have a problem here.
Because my system drive isn't C: (It's F:), the installer is giving out loads of errors! :( Unless someone knows how I can make my system drive both F: and C:? (Yeah, Windows ***** up the install by thinking my Storage drive was C:.. ) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1hmmm. must be some wierd localized problem. maybe your particular ISP?
I've had really a really snappy response ever since I found the story; refreshing successfully as we speak. - jamdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If this will work, and I install Debian Linux on my Windows XP pc, does that mean I will have the option to boot into Windows or Linux ??
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think you may be out of luck until the next release...
Although: If i remember correctly TweakUI (free, by Microsoft) and PartitionMagic (commercial, for pay) both allow you to relabel windows drives. I'm not sure what level this happens at though, it might just be superficial... - bedouin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Will we get to see a MacOS / Mac OS X version of this for Debian PPC? Could be kind of cool. Though it seems like if you're smart enough to install Debian in the first place you don't really need this. It could be nice for net installs though.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html
:o)
As long as you don't mind following some fairly short and straightforward documentation. - n0xie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You have windows XP with 96 Mb of RAM and it works 'amazingly fast'?!?!
Are you sure it's XP?
I have a p4 3,0 Ghz dual core with 1024 Mb RAM at the office and 'amazingly fast' is not something I would use as a label when describing that PC which has Windows XP... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I guess in the code they should have used the %systemdrive% variable instead of hardcoding C:.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1don't forget about the other CD-less methods:
USB flashdrive install (gotta be able to boot from USB, though)
the age old stack-O-floppies (i think it takes 4-5 for a network install)
netboot (not many laptops support LAN-booting unfortunately...) - fjf314, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If they went back up, then they already went back down... I'm getting a 404, too.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, the installer doesn't actually need to get that much (the Ubuntu one is much, much bigger) since this is essentially a network install. Once you reboot into the standard installer, you can simply choose a closer/faster mirror for the packages. The packages (after the base install) are the brunt of the bandwidth-load, and those already have hundreds of mirrors.
Although it would be interesting to see a torrent-ified Debian repository... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Wow. This will drive Windows users into the Debian help forums. I just don't see those two crowds mixing very well. A lot of windows users will go away with a bad ( only partly deserved ) impression of the Linux community
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7Maybe Canonical could also add Debian to the repositories.
$ apt-get install debian && reboot
;-) - masskurec, on 03/03/2009, -0/+0this seems interesting, thanks
http://xptweak.net - grendel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1never got the ubuntu/win version installed correctly...
just hung out with an obscure message...granted obscure to a non linux user.
not a good start for a switch tactic. - AlpT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1And now it's time to code Zatoichi: http://idiki.dyne.org/wiki/Zatoichi !
Zatoichi is the windows virus, which installs a GNU/Linux distribution and spreads itself. It was proposed two years ago.
Now, with "goodbye-microsoft", implementing Zatoichi is a piece of cake ^_^ - crossers, on 07/23/2008, -0/+0I have some problems with installing. if anyone can give instruction.
http://www.shpe-sac.org
http://www.ocflex.com/
http://www.trgovinca.org
http://www.chasr.org/ - kakashka2, on 01/07/2009, -0/+0I would say this is great for people with older laptops that dont have CD-ROM's or dont support booting from them... I myself have a Toshiba Portege 7010ct (made in 1994) that is running XP (PII, 96mb RAM). It runs amazingly fast, but Linux is faster yet... only problem is: To install Linux on the laptop, you must first purchase a Standard > Laptop IDE connector, remove the HDD from the laptop, place it into a desktop with similar specs, install Linux, obtain/compile/install drivers for the laptop hardware, reconfigure X so that it will start up on the laptop, shut down, pull the HDD and put it back in the laptop, boot up, and pray.
http://autosnewspaper.com/ - akira117, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I got a 404 ;7(
Love the concept though!
Link to image of error+OS Ver.+CPU info: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/372532714_4da60a6138_o.jpg - dan2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Giving this a try, let's see what happens.
- bobbothegrayson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2wait, is this, like, runnign linux INSIDE of windows, or does it create a whole partition, and run linux separately?
- sk545, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2they should tell you how to uninstall these things first. Linux can mess up windows install or vice versa.
- kb0x, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2How do you uninstall it?
- Dankoozy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0I'd install windows just for that.
- sammcj2000, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5i disagree, ubuntu if you're new to computers / linux,
debian is great because its totally customizable with no pre-installed clutter or gnome. - noah45, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Got an error trying to install.
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