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- StevenBullen, on 10/10/2008, -2/+74Ouch!
"At its peak, traffic can sometimes reach 50,000 HTTP requests per second. The organization's hardware budget to date is roughly $1.5 million, and it spends $35,000 per month on bandwidth and physical hosting" - wontstoptalking, on 10/10/2008, -0/+64Bart: "But Dad, Wikipedia says that-"
Homer: "Don't you worry about Wikipedia. We'll change it when we get home.......we'll change a *lot* of things.....hehehe...." - Avian00, on 10/10/2008, -0/+41What makes Debian a better choice on the server than Ubuntu? Ubuntu seems like a solid choice to me. It's a stable and predictable platform with a vibrant community. It also provides newer package versions in its "stable" edition. If you want newer packages with Debian, you have to tread into "testing" and "unstable" territory.
- Kral, on 10/10/2008, -16/+56Ubuntu would be my first choice for a desktop, but for a server? That's what Debian does best.
- Ratatoo, on 10/10/2008, -0/+39At work I have chosen Ubuntu Server for some of our hardest working servers for years now. The OS is stripped down - there is little running besides that which I have deliberately installed, and so it's quite secure. Ubuntu is also very actively developed and thus - modern - so it performs well and (surprisingly) has native drivers for all our server's hardware *including raid controllers*. Our Ubuntu servers have been very stable, and easy to maintain and keep up to date.
Good choice. - Kragnerac, on 10/10/2008, -3/+38What can brown do for you?
- brettalton, on 10/10/2008, -0/+29More info on Wikimedia servers: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_servers
I recall them using a Red Hat, Fedora and Ubuntu mix back in '06 and, even as an Ubuntu zealot, I couldn't care less. A win for Linux is a win for Linux. - Stonekeeper, on 10/10/2008, -1/+28If you have brown on ubuntu server you are doing something very wrong.
- jaytek13, on 10/10/2008, -1/+27forum - a public facility to meet for open discussion ... seems like a forum to me.
- mggs, on 10/10/2008, -0/+19Our economy is more than just "down", it's in total ruins. No one knows if they will still have a job after a month or so.
But since there are no dollars or euros left on the island to pay those MS license fees, Linux might go up. - Asianwaste, on 10/10/2008, -0/+19Why don't you ask your sponsors, spammer?
- mggs, on 10/10/2008, -1/+18www.rsk.is (website for Icelandic IRS) runs on Ubuntu and has done so since May this year. We've had no problems with it.
- esoterikism, on 10/10/2008, -0/+13I figure they both post patch security flaws ASAP anyway - so what is the difference? Things like a newer version of bash(dash) make me want to work on Ubuntu servers. Debian was my first love though.
- markr, on 10/10/2008, -3/+14yeah - your server might be up, but the economy is down! No distribution can fix that for you!
- RaulMuadDib, on 10/10/2008, -0/+11Why?
- Anand999, on 10/10/2008, -0/+10Exactly. What Ubuntu needs to do is create a "Server Edition" that does exactly what you say, and put a webpage up with more details about it. I'd suggest using this URL:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/server ... - ethana2, on 10/10/2008, -1/+10give you up, let you down, run around, desert you, make you cry, say goodbye, tell a lie and hurt you, break your heart, kill you, tear you to pieces, throw every piece into a fire.....
You'd be surprised. Brown can be pretty brutal. - kilya218, on 10/10/2008, -0/+9"It is also a good news", what?
- esoterikism, on 10/10/2008, -3/+12digg - a public facility for posting funny/stupid comments and moving on. discussion is not an option.
That said, i'd be interested in a good Ubuntu-based hosting company as well.
ps. digg sucks at AJAX. - inactive, on 10/10/2008, -0/+9I love Deb and used it since 1.3, but the intermittent release cycle has always dogged it for production use.
Ubuntu has a good release strategy with it's five year LTS support and predictable release cycle, server management is easier. Five years is the outer limit of hardware EOL. Plus it's still pretty much exactly the same as Debian. - waspbr, on 10/10/2008, -0/+8and yet you are commenting on it... unless there's someone holding you at gun point to comment on this I would suggest you... you know.. get a life
- CircleFusion, on 10/10/2008, -0/+7I'm pretty sure an Ubuntu server is just like a Debian server, except that it has more recent software updates.
I realize it's popular to hate popular things (heh), but running Ubuntu server is not a bad choice at all. - wontstoptalking, on 10/10/2008, -1/+8Make your pants really dirty and embarrass you :-(
- kishosingh, on 10/10/2008, -13/+19"Wikimedia's entire collection of web sites—which includes Wikipedia, Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikinews, and several others—serves up roughly 10 billion page views per month," yes but it is also a good news.
- Dobby156, on 10/10/2008, -0/+6it never ran on a Microsoft infrastructure.
- nubnub99, on 10/10/2008, -0/+6[Citation needed]
- Suilenroc, on 10/10/2008, -0/+6Wikipedia GET
- harrisbradley, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5A claim with backup. thumbs up. good info.
- Gutterpunk, on 10/10/2008, -2/+7Remind me to skip your house.
- CircleFusion, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5/sarcasm?
...or you're unaware that there is an ubuntu server release? - Fordi, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5Well, considering that it was put up in the last month, gets nearly no traffic whatsoever*, is presently broken, and is spam, I would guess that a pocket calculator could handle your hosting.
* Source: Alexa - harrisbradley, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5"The Ubuntu Server Edition - built on the solid foundation of Debian which is known for its robust server installations — has a strong heritage for reliable performance and predictable evolution."
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5i thought this was a chatroom?
- CircleFusion, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4I switched my dedicated webserver from Fedora to Ubuntu last year and it's holding up very nicely. I almost switched to CentOS, but eventually decided on Ubuntu. So far, I think it was a good choice. Any admin familiar with Debian should have no problem with maintaining it.
- JQP123, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4"If their profits and support drops, the professional work on Linux could slow."
Such is the paradoxical nature of the Open Source business model. If the product is too hard to use, few will bother. If it is too easy, few will pay for support ... which is turn decreases development support.
In other words, this business model is inherently at odds with itself ... and self-limiting as a result. - oobuntu, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4I found no mention of clusters in this article. Interested to see if they are clustering with ubuntu and how mature this technology is.
- MMaster23, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4What does Microsoft have to do with any of this?
Go play outside fanboy - inactive, on 10/10/2008, -1/+5If you're saying that because Xorg is running I see that Red Hat servers have it up and running and they're the most successful Linux distro on the enterprise so they're doing something really well. I certainly hope for a ubuntu server version with graphical interface, that way it would be easier for them to eat Windows server market share, the free part would be a killer.
- czeman, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4scooby2, you downloaded the wrong .iso. You need to download Server Edition. You can select it on the download page. Desktop Edition is selected by default.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4This application is better served by application level logic rather than OS level clustering.
- westyvw, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4LOL, thats funny.
Seriously, if you are going to ban websites for the technology they use how about:
ActiveX
Flash
Shockwave
Silverlight
Thats a much more useful list. - CarzorStelatis, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4Why was Wikipedia hotlinking to your server anyway? Why not upload the picture to their servers and make the bandwidth their problem?
- ell0bo, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4Ubuntu has served me well too. When I started working at my company they were using Solaris on all of the boxes. Trying to get mcrypt and other libraries installed on there was an absolute nightmare. After a while I talked them into letting me try an Ubuntu server and now we have 4 up and running since we haven't had issues. It really is nice just being able to install and go, and the only services on the box running are exactly what I install. It is a bit odd having to dl make and g++ when you want to start compiling, but I'll take that to know exactly what's on the server.
- Gracenotes, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3I don't think the difference matters too much -- Wikipedia's server-side structure relies very little on the OS that runs it. The change is about standardization and maintainability, not performance, because there likely won't be much change of the latter. Squid proxy (hit) --> PHP parsing (squid miss) --> memcached (hit) --> SQL database read (memcached miss) for reading, and SQL database write for writing data. In this heavily cached model, the servers are more often limited by bandwidth than by working through CPU cycles. The change will result in increased maintainability, which can be cost-reducing by reducing the work required to keep everything in sync.
- georgemandis, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3That's quite the endorsement.
- ScottyMcBaggs, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3the last millenium called, it wants its hat back.
- whosmatt, on 10/10/2008, -1/+4No offense, but Ars crushes Computerworld.
- cawpin, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3How is it fragile? I've been running Ubuntu since 7.04, now on 8.04, on my home server and it has never let me down. I have 2 software RAIDs running and SSH + VNC for remote access. I've never had any problems with it outside of a power supply failing. I even changed my server to a new machine last year and put my RAID drives in and restarted the array in the new machine without a hitch.
- darkmagician777, on 10/10/2008, -6/+9yay for UBUNTU!
I know there are the hardcore RedHat Users out there, but UBUNTU is looking better then ever, Without the Microsoft baggage, this could boost performance. - MMaster23, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Running free linux just smoothly .. that's until the power goes down of course.
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