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- mjpatey, on 10/11/2007, -3/+69I've been extremely happy with Feisty; can't wait for Gutsy!
I guess I took the red pill... - Trevino, on 10/11/2007, -1/+42Site is very slow, here is the article:
I always enjoy it when a new version of an operating system hits the streets. I like moving through all the new features, finding out what was included and what was left out and generally enjoying myself for a few hours just looking around. But then, I’m a geek. I know not a ton of other people share this passion.
Even if you’re not as passionate about new operating systems as I am, if you’re at all a Linux fan you should be excited about the latest Ubuntu release. Why? Because it’s going to fix one of the four major issues keeping Linux off desktops.
In short, here’s my major beefs with my favorite operating system.
1. No way to configure X.org without hacking a text configuration file.
2. Lack of modern games developed for Linux.
3. Lack of minty, fresh off the shelf drivers for all the latest video cards.
4. Inability to purchase bare metal machines without paying the Microsoft Tax. (Starting with Dell however, this may be going away fast).
Notice that three of them are interrelated? Graphics, graphics, graphics. This is the major blockade that’s keeping Linux from moving more swiftly on to the desktop. Thankfully with the new X.org (7.3) which will begin to make appearances in Gutsy (7.10) will go a long way towards fixing this issue.
Not only does X.org 7.3 have much better monitor autodetection, come with a new Intel driver and have RandR support (think output hotplug – or fast switching of monitors or output devices) but it will also jive with BulletProofX and DisplayConfigGTK.
So what the heck are those things? BulletProofX is an attempt to have Ubuntu always boot into a graphical environment, even if the xorg.conf file is bad. Think of it as a failsafe mode. From this 800×600 or 600×400 screen you can use DisplayConfigGTK to configure a new xorg.conf file.
dualmonitors.jpgAnd what’s so special about DisplayConfigGTK? It’s a graphical way to adjust your display! Not only does that rhyme, but it’s bringing Linux in line with every other major operating system out there. You can now adjust your display settings, set up a dual-monitor system or have several display profiles and you can do it all graphically. Finally!
All of this is new stuff, and it may not all make it into Ubuntu 7.10, as many aspects are fairly modular but it’s a damned good start.
Hats off to all the folks who are working on these projects, from the X.org folks to the Ubuntu developers to the Janes and Joes like you and I who test the Alpha and Beta releases and provide bug reports. This is a huge step forward and we should all be proud. - RipponD, on 10/11/2007, -2/+41Good thing Xorg7.3 will be in all the distributions....
- slacknerd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+41Mmmmm...be lazy like me and give Dell some money....wireless worked out of the box....
- skyshock1, on 10/11/2007, -5/+41Drivers, drivers, drivers!!!!!!
- SirNoobius, on 10/11/2007, -6/+41arsgeek you piece of *****, this isn't the first time you've been on digg front page yet the site goes down after 5 minutes every time. wtf?
- fiver22, on 10/11/2007, -2/+321)It's free
2)It's Open Source
3)It's more efficient than Windows
4)It doesn't have anything to do with a Corporate Behemoth that wants to own your soul
5)It does what you want
6)It doesn't do what you don't want
7)It doesn't sneak anything past you in the EULA
8)It is inherently safer than other popular OSs (especially Windows)
9)You can see what it does whenever you want
10)It doesn't break any laws (unless you tell it to ;) )
11)You can legally change it to suit your needs
12)You can't be sued by a large corporation because you modified it to suit your needs
13)It's easy to use
14)It teaches you about how computers really work
-I have 20-30 other reasons off the top of my head that are just as compelling if you need them -and that's without putting any effort into it. - sqrt7744, on 10/11/2007, -3/+28developers, developers, DEVELOPERS! *does monkey dance*
- jonnyboy27, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24xoon, well that's impressive that you were excited by version 1.0 since there never was one!
- Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22Simple... dump the ATI garbage
- mjpatey, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22Absolutely, GPLv3 is exciting in its own right. But, can it save me the trouble of manually editing my xorg.conf file every time I switch kernels? :-)
- trogdoor, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19Linux developers reverse-engineered almost all broadcom cards with no documentation whatsoever and you think that nobody is working on getting wireless to work? What do you want them to do exactly? Provide every single windows driver plus NDISwrapper on the install CD?
Even if that were feasible they still have the problem that *MANUFACTURERS WON'T EVEN LET THEM DO THAT MUCH* That is why your broadcom card doesn't work out of the box, the drivers are included on the CD but broadcom won't even let Linux distros distribute the *firmware* required to even power the card on. But even with that opposition they created a package, just for you, that downloads the windows driver from broadcom's site, extracts the firmware automatically, then shines your shoes while you browse the internet ( OK, the shoe shining part is a lie ).
But you are right, nobody at all is trying to work on wireless, where are their priorities!?! - midtown, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21My wireless worked right out of the box, which was something Vista didn't even do! Maybe I am just lucky and have a popular chipset, but Ubuntu 7.04 was the best out-of-the-box driver experience I have had with any OS, hands-down.
- Illidan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19Win. 6.x brought Ubuntu into the neophyte's eye; 7.x is fixing fault after fault, step by step.
- trogdoor, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18They do, and they have for a while. What are you talking about?
- srg13, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18I don't think you understand what Xorg is...
- Spr0k3t, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14If you have a non-standard card, a card with an undefined HAL (Draft N), or an unsupported Broadcom chipset... your best bet is to get a supported well documented open chipset card. Then complain to the hardware manufacturer of your non-working card asking for support in Linux.
I wonder how many times this has to be spelled out before people just "get it" - srg13, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Actually, 4.10 was the first version (they use the year and month of the release - Warty was released October 2004)
- seb9898, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15skyshock1: Drivers, drivers, drivers!!!!!!
no 2. Games, games, games!!!!! - stonyhill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13KDE4 and Xorg7.3 are major upgrades. The Compiz and Beryl teams are finally working together for the first time, so composite should be amazing by October. As for adoption from windows, default ntfs write support and bulletproof X are going to be huge. I think Gutsy will slick, fast, and sexy. And very popular.
- miguelzinho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Don't blame Canonical/Ubuntu. Blame ATI/AMD for a crappy driver.
- skyshock1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13I am. I'll be picking up an Nvidia card very soon. And although their Linux drivers are LIGHT YEARS ahead of ATI's, they're still not as good as they could be. I still have to wonder why with the upgrade my DRI broke though.... Like I said it worked great using Edgy. Dmesg output really doesn't show me much, as well as checking /var/log/messages while using glxgears.
I'm digging your comment up. - Spr0k3t, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11I don't think ...
- cynicist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10This release is going to fix a lot of small things that bothered me.
1. Safe way to deal with a full disk without rebooting
2. Automated installs will be possible
3. Removal of old, unused kernels/libraries will be automatic
4. Write support for ntfs using ntfs-3g will be on by default
5. Power management improvements for laptops
6. Bug fixes for NetworkManager
Not to mention the bigger changes like xorg 7.3 and composite by default. Should be a great release. - srg13, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
It's absolutely awesome - and installed by default on Feisty - Spr0k3t, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9You haven't tried Feisty yet have you?
- apache2, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Coral Cache
http://www.arsgeek.com.nyud.net:8080/?p=2034 - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Aero isn't in Home Basic.
- joelito, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7You could always plug your laptop to a wired network for a couple of minutes/hours while you configure it. Can't you?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Actually, if you are interested in installing Ubuntu on your ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 system, you may use the alternate CD which may be downloaded from the Official Ubuntu website. From there, feel free to install the proper files necessary. If you would like a step by step HOWTO to do this, please try a search on your favorite search engine.
Good luck to you! - zumpiez, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8I installed Feisty when it came out. It recognized that my Linksys card *existed* but it was unable to establish a connection to anything. Thanks for assuming I just made something up to troll, though, that's pretty constructive.
- trogdoor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I agree completely, my point was not that you should buy broadcom, but rather that a lot of work is being done that shouldn't be written of so quickly as dougberett did.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Uhm, dude... there are applications to replace every last one of those. If you enjoy using IE (shudder) you can run it under WINE, same with Maxthon from what I understand. However, there are better native alternatives to those browsers. IrfanView is a good program yes, but there are equivs in both KDE and GTK. Nero itself is in the minor leagues when you compare it to KB3. And, if you like powerpro, I have no clue why you haven't switched over to Linux a LONG time ago. If you are complaining that you can't have these apps work in Linux, you may as well complain about having your XBox360 games not work on your PS3. Linux is _*NOT*_ Windows!!!
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Agreed. Try a card based on the Atheros chipset. These use the very stable madwifi-ng drivers, and are perfect out of the box.
- cynicist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Yes back when compiz/beryl were new and unstable. Now we have one unified project with great features and solid code, isn't that what ubuntu devs were waiting for?
- fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Sorry, I just had to laugh at that comment.
- stmiller, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8"Free flash is not going to happen by 7.10."
It's already here. Gnash 0.8.0 has been released. It's spec'd to Flash 7 compatible, is GPL and plays youtube and other video. Go download it now and try it out. Good for PowerPC Linux folks and other non-x86 Linux users for having Flash. - Tsen, on 10/11/2007, -3/+97.04 was impressive--it added a lot. 7.10? There'll be changes, and I'm excited, but not THAT excited. Doesn't look to be quite as ground-breaking.
- sqrt7744, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@Spr0k3t: Nero does have an up-to-date linux version, though you're quite right: GnomeBaker and K3B are great.
- bsander, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6The major reason I'm excited is because KDE 4 will be out at about the same time! Here's to hoping it'll be available for gutsy ASAP, as with all previous KDE releases!
- AjayF, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Maybe this version will have drivers for wireless cards, I installed Ubuntu onto my laptop and was forced there after to hook it up to a ethernet cord everyday if i wanted to use the net, that was the only drawback. Someone told me to create a wireless driver. How the hell do you do that? If you Ubuntu is to acquire global use, I shouldn't have to answer a question like that. Though I am not blaming Ubuntu. Hardware companies need to get a clue and help, though I am sure they will not jump to do it considering it is not one of the "pay to play" operating systems. If the OS is free, no one helps out, for they will feel the wrath of MS.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Thinking Broadcom will work even if the drivers are there is a shot in the dark. The problems with Broadcom cards is not isolated to Linux... rather isolated to the chipset. Some chipsets will work with the reverse engineered bcm43xx drivers while two of the same cards might yield a 50% success rate. Your best option is to stay away from Broadcom.
- srg13, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6How long ago? I had similar problems in 1997
- Spr0k3t, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I once thought this was true as well. However, my wife has been using Linux without touching the terminal for two months now. She plays games, edits photos, builds databases, composes music, burns discs, surfs, develops web pages... the list goes on... she hasn't touched the terminal yet. I think it was Debian Etch that she uses. If you don't want to use the terminal, you really don't have to.
- 9a3eedi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The guy is suggesting that Ubuntu devs should make an automated ndiswrapper frontend that would attempt to detect the unsupported card and prompt the user for the Windows driver CD in order to attempt to make it to work. The user therefore would *not* need to know what ndiswrapper or lspci actually is..
- init100, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6It doesn't bother the user with license serial numbers and it doesn't phone home to verify that your copy is "genuine".
- srg13, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Feisty recognised my card, and had drivers for it, but I have to use ndiswrapper, because the native drivers don't support WPA..
But ndiswrapper works extremely well - I've had no problems whatsoever. - sacherjj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Then complain to your card manufacturer to stop being a horses ass and support the Linux devs. Everyone complains about the Linux developers not running uphill faster when the manufacturers of the hardware you choose just want to raise the angle of the hill. Either complain to the manufacturers, buy hardware that the manufacturers offer Linux support, or SHUT UP!
- Gerz1219, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Everything you've said is ridiculous.
Ubuntu has wisely kept composite-by-default out four times in a row, because Compiz/Beryl hasn't been ready for prime time. The Ubuntu folks' primary responsibility is to package together existing software, and choose to what to incorporate and what to leave out, in order to provide maximum stability and usability. That's what a distribution does. Your post shows little understanding of this. In addition, Ubuntu would be a piss poor operating system if, by default, users regularly had to deal with black window bugs and desktop crashes. If you want to blame someone, blame the Compiz/Beryl teams for not producing flawless software in conjunction with Ubuntu's release schedule, because it's not Ubuntu's responsibility to write the code for desktop compositing. Although I think you'd be a ***** to blame anyone for free software that's progressing nicely.
And the mention of KDE4 clearly only applies to Kubuntu, which is always released simultaneously with Ubuntu.
You are an idiot. - Megatog615, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Looks like ArsGeek automatically forwards you to a mirror now :D.
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