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- rmerrick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+48Defective by Design - The campaign to eliminate DRM:
http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ - treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19"Welcome to the the new era of DRM!"
I would be more inclined to say "Welcome to the END of the era of DRM!"
There have already been reports of some record companies willing to offer DRM-free mp3s. And as consumers become more aware of the restrictions placed on their downloads, they will either turn to pirating (if they don't already do so) or they will turn to the services that offer DRM-free downloads.
Problem eradicated.
In the end, the consumers dictate how the industry should be operated, not the big-wig execs. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19My middle finger cordially extends to all those who want to dictate that I can't hear/play something because I run Linux.
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20It /is/ dying albeit gradually.
VirginMega adopts DRM-free MP3 on its music store
http://www.djing.com/news/1926/virginmega-adopts-drm-free-mp3-on-its-music-store/
EMI abandons CD DRM
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/01/08/emi_abandons_cd_drm.html
Amazon Soon Opening DRM-free MP3 Store
http://www.computers.net/2006/12/amazon_soon_ope.html
iTunes sales 'collapsing'
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/11/digital_downloads_flatline/
Music to be offered in MP3 file format
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/technology/16179277.htm
Big labels are f*cked, and DRM is dead - Peter Jenner
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/03/peter_jenner/
Sony 'deceived' on music
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,21026144%5E15322%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html
Who's Killing MP3 and ITunes?
http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,72412-1.html?tw=wn_story_page_next1
Apple faces suit over iPod-iTunes link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061230/ap_on_hi_te/apple_lawsuits - DeathBorn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16DRM is like the monster at the end of a horror movie. Just when you thought it was dead for good....it comes back to life stronger than ever!
- demonsofgoetia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14IMO if you buy products with and/or supporting DRM, you are telling the companies that you want DRM with each and every purchase you make.
Let's not forget the lessons learned with the Sony DRM XCP rootkit:
"Canadian Sony Rootkit Settlement Stirs Controversy"
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/14/1617207
"More on Sony's DRM Rootkit"
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/11/more_on_sonys_d.html
"Real Story of the Rogue Rootkit"
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,69601,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2
"Scotch Tape Stymies Sony Copy Protection"
http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=174400748
"Sony, Amazon Detail Rootkit CD Buybacks"
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/11/18/2010224.shtml?tid=187&tid=158&tid=233
"Sony anti-customer technology roundup and time-line"
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/14/sony_anticustomer_te.html
"Sony-BMG Litigation"
http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/Sony-BMG/
"Sony BMG Settles Over CD DRM"
http://slashdot.org/articles/06/12/20/2313258.shtml
"Sony DRM Debacle Roundup Part V"
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/12/16/sony_drm_debacle_rou.html
"Sony Numbers Add Up to Trouble"
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,69573,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2
"Sony Rootkit DRM Roundup Part III"
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/21/sony_rootkit_drm_rou.html
"Sony Rootkit Roundup IV"
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/12/03/sony_rootkit_roundup.html
"Sony rootkit roundup, part II"
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/17/sony_rootkit_roundup.html
"Sony's DRM Rootkit: The Real Story"
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/11/sonys_drm_rootk.html
"Sony Secretly Installs Rootkit on Computers"
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/11/sony_secretly_i_1.html
"Sony to settle anti-piracy CD row"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4568670.stm
"Sticky Tape Defeats Sony DRM Copy Protection"
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/11/22/1813254.shtml?tid=233&tid=141&tid=158
"Still More on Sony's DRM Rootkit"
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/11/still_more_on_s_1.html - Odin314, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14HULK SMASH. RAWR.
- coredump0x01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@kingkilr
You sir, are officially an idiot. You will receive your certification in 5-10 business days. - Druidictus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8We need to boycott all DRM infested products.
- Stirk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6My sentiments exactly.
- jpolacek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It really boggles the mind how they don't realize that these methods lead to more piracy.
- desistere, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Thanks for this article. I will read up more on DRM. It seems that this article mostly frames Microsoft as a culprit because of Vista, but it also mentions that Apple is behind this technology as well. If both corporations are on the DRM train, it seems like DRM will be impossible to stop. Is there a coherent plan to stop DRM that we, the users, can follow? Or, in the end, does it simply come down to court battles and legislative processes outside of our sphere of influence?
- digdigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Honestly, I used to care about this stuff, but I don't give a rat's ass anymore. I used to care and bought an HDTV - paid a lot of money. Now my TV is old (4 years old) and it won't play HD DVDs for example. I don't care anymore, they can protect the hell out of all the music, games and movies. I will be doing more skiing, cycling and other things instead. They can make it all as expensive and as protected as they want. Instead of fighting this stupid war, we should just stop buying and see what they do.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well, until people realize they aren't forced to buy DRM content, things aren't going to get much better.
If you can't live without their content, they get to make the rules. Unfortunately people think they have a right to both purchase content under a restrictive set of rules, and then break those rules.
They make the content, they get to decide how to make money off of it. Don't like the content? Don't like the rules? DON'T BUY THE CONTENT! I mean geez, talk about RTFM, give me a break. - B3bomber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The DMCA doesn't allow you to crack the DRM without being liable to go to jail for a really long time.
DRM just needs to die...as does the DMCA. I'm all for artists and others protecting their copyrights, but not like this (use of DRM to spy on users, limit where and what it can be played on). - Altotus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Please stop using the term Digital Rights Management (DRM) -- that's a term used by it's proponents. Critics of the technology should refer to it by the more pro-consumer descriptive name: Fair Use Circumvention Kit -- with the attending obvious acronym.
- michuk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"In the version with FairPlay (sic!) protection system, it contains DRM-type restrictions"
Of course AAC is not tainted by DRM by default. It's just the Apple version of it, which has been stated. No idea where did you take this factuar error thing from... - grumpyrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"complaining is a waste of time and energy. just crack the DRM and rip the content, that will save you the paperwork of filing complaints."
Not complaining and using playfair or whatever misses the point. It allows the RIAA et co to proclaim that the DRM does not negatively affect sales or consumer attitude, and DRM will become the rule rather than the exception. Refusing to buy DRM content does make a difference. The technology is being sold on the virtue of falling CD sales (which is if you listen to them is due to piracy). Showing that DRM is not the way to address piracy is very important. - Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And lo and behold, DRM did nothing to stop P2P. What we want the companies to do is stop taking measures that only hinder the honest customers in the use of their fair use rights.
- cphuntington97, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Great... now how many people are ready to give up dvds?
- lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Good luck enforcing it. The free market will prevail when it comes to this area!
And the free market always chooses the path of least resistance. Hence the free path! - straxus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"PEOPLE ARE FULL OF *****, YOU ARE JUST TOO DAMN CHEAP! "
It was your use of CAPS that convinced me. - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I for one welcome our digital rights managerial overlords!
Well, maybe not. - lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The situation is similar to prohibition. Any time people have to choose between obeying an unenforceable law of questionable morality and living life to its fullest, they are going to choose the latter.
- Sp1k3, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8I just have one thing to say; ***** DRM and all it's minion-like proponents!
- saftaplan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@treelovinhippie: True, the music industry seems to finally get it. But in the movie industry it is only beginning.
- obezyana, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"…as consumers become more aware of the restrictions placed on their downloads, they will either turn to pirating…"
I somehow don't see that as helping to get rid of DRM; it's only going to encourage the likes of the RIAA and MPAA to crank up the DRM and make it harder to crack, hoping that eventually the pirates will find it easier to buy the CDs themselves rather than illegally download them.
That said, i sincerely hope sales of non-DRM'd media go way up, and the sales directors at the RIAA/MPAA smarten up and realise that… hey… people actually prefer our stuff when we don't put that "trusted computing" crap on it. - rockforever, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I used to believe that the consumers made these decisions, yet more and more companies continue to implement these half-assed DRM schemes. When groups like the RIAA and the MPAA wield this much power, its easy to forget who controls a market economy. As long as we keep breaking the DRM then I'm fine with them implementing it.
- Matri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Get real. The RIAA sues dead people for downloading music from beyond the grave. You seriously believe they'll smarten up? They have to gain IQ points just to get up to "retard" level.
- gerran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Fortunately, we have reality on our side. DRM is nothing but technological snake oil being sold to content/media companies as a solution to their perceived threat of "unauthorized copying". DRM could have the toughest encryption ever created, but it suffers from one flaw: it must be unencrypted for a person to see and/or hear the content. At that point, the data is open and free.
Example: I used to work at a company that did a number of partnerships with companies that made e-book readers (portable devices that could display books in digital format). One time a company came to us with a new e-book reader where they claimed the DRM was impossible to break. The DRM was so tight that content was tied to a specific e-book device. One of my co-workers asked to borrow the e-book for 20 minutes so he could take it back to his office and make some first attempts at cracking the DRM. 5 minutes later he came back with the first 30 pages of the book printed out. The reps from the visiting company where SHOCKED. They asked him how he broke the encryption. His response: "I took the e-book and put it face down on our photocopier and simply copied the pages. Your device is nice and flat so the copier can read it perfectly."
This, my friends, is why DRM will never work. There will always be some way to copy content as soon as it is unencrypted. - angulion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm more for Digital Restrictions Management.
- spliznork, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2But wouldn't it be nice if the things you felt were your inalienable rights were not illegal and punishable by incarceration and fines?
- motters, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think there needs to be more public education regarding DRM and its consequences. Tech savvy folks know all about DRM, but most people that I know simply don't have any clue what DRM is even though many of them have iPods.
- SystmBetatester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i really think this whole anti drm thing is overblown, im not saying im against it. but there hasnt been any drm YET that we cant destroy... drm isnt about piracy i know, its about trying to sell us the same thing x many more times.
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4You're that annoying pedantic nerd who everyone hates. This is what the author was referring to:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,119792-page,1/article.html
The Sonos system plays .wav, MP3, WMA, and AAC music files (but not copy-protected files such as ones from the Apple ITunes store). - addicted68098, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think Labels have come to the conclusion that if you buy music, you probably arn't going to share it with everyone, and that DRM is useless since you can duplicate music into an unprotected format with a little hacking in the audio card.
- dkm201, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6No, but they invented FairPlay, which is DRM... Does that hurt your fanboy feelings?
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4>It does not try to improve the security of the user, but rather wants to ensure that the user can be “trusted”.
Inaccurate. It tries to make sure the computer can be trusted because it's too risky to trust the user. - grungegbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1on the idea of DRM and non-DRM hardware (such as dvd players etc..) can anyone provide a list
of products that use the DRM and ones that are non-DRM? - LiterateWolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks, Ayn Rand. Oh, wait, free markets gave us DRM. Oops.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not necessarily. Remember that the computational complexity of encryption in normal operation compared to cracking tends to increase disproportionately. The power required to implement tougher DRM increases much slower than the power needed to crack it. Given Moore's law it will be decades before it will be easy to crack the current AACS by brute force and then they can go to 256-bit encryption. Unless quantum computers suddenly start working the only real way to take this on is via side channel attacks like was done in the recent cleaning of a few HD videos.
Of course side channel attacks are very easy at the moment and then there is the analogue hole which still hasn't been closed. - Fragalishus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It sure would be nice if say Google, or any company with the money to do it, would make a real iphone/ipod/zune killer. Big screen, long battery life, decently fast hardware, lots of storage, and most importantly, no proprietary software. A portable media player that you could install whatever you want on it. Some sort of Linux shell, preferably, but even if you wanted to install Windows Mobile or some sort of Apple software you could. Basically the only the thing it would need is a browser (Firefox/Opera) and an open source player like VLC or something. Play any media and access the net. Anything else like GPS is up to the user, and I would imagine there would be tons of open-source software people would start cranking out for it. You could probably sell it for $1000 and they'd sell like hotcakes to the people who wanted to be free to do whatever they want with the things they purchase.
Once everyone threw away their ipods and razrs the telcos would be forced to cater to the consumer for once, instead of locking people in to long contracts of crappy service on crappy hardware. Most people I know would gladly pay $50-60 a month (or more) for a 6 month phone contract on their shiny new PMD (portable media device), so long as they got to do whatever they wanted with it.
Buy a non-DRM dvd and rip a smaller version to your PMD and off you go. They'd spend less on security features that are going to be cracked anyway. They don't even need to neccessarily charge less for the current products either, just make them less restrictive. The less they spend on that the more profit they make. Seems to me like everybody wins.
I'm not up on the latest tech so maybe such devices do exist, but I sure don't hear about them. I only hear how the Zune was supposed to be an ipod killer but comes with even ***** DRM.
And ditch the trailers on dvd's, ffs. I don't care how little space they take up. I'd rather know that every single byte of data was going towards bringing me the highest possible quality product I just paid for, instead of showing me trailers for crappy movies that I'll never buy or have seen a commercial for 1,000 times already. I really don't care that I won't notice any visual quality difference either. It's the principle.
I don't know, maybe I'm just a dreamer. Just seems to me someone could make a fortune if they were able to pull it off. Granted, the $1,000 tag would only cater to a certain crowd, so realistically it would have to be in the ipod/zune price range to really take off. Maybe one really can only dream? - hempcamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"For instance, if you have the misfortune of being located in the United States or France, you are prohibited by law to play your legally purchased music or films (sic!) that are secured by DRM if you don’t buy an approved operating system (like MS Windows or MacOS) with an approved media player (like PowerDVD or iTunes). In the US this has been enforced by the DMCA act."
This is inaccurate. The DMCA prevents you from selling or manufacturing or distributing the software that circumvents DRM, it _does not_ make it illegal for you, as a personal user, to actually circumvent the DRM. Name one example of where a _consumer_ has been sued or prosecuted under the DMCA? - truck87bp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a Notice to my Friends and Family on my email list:
As a Geek and your free Windows Information Technology (I.T.) support for many years, I'm am sad to say that I will NOT be supporting the new release of Microsoft Windows Vista. Microsoft has relied heavily on myself and other family geeks to keep their products looking like Shining Armour which we all know it isn't but its still pretty good. No more free ride for MS Vista.
MS thinks they own everything, the Internet, the Hardware Manufactures, the MS Geeks and I for one have truly had it with their attitude, their Monopoly and their way of doing strong arm business. MS made the Internet into what we have today but time has a way of changing everything.
I have no intension's of ever buying the Vista software, so if you need support, you will have to pay for the privilege of using Vista through the Microsoft Support Center after the, free support time frame runs out or Google your problem and try to fix it yourself or find some neighbor kid Geek to help you.
I will continue to support you with all previous flavors of windows, XP, 2000, Me, 98, 95 and Mr. Bruno on his windows 3.11, 1989 IBM laptop thats still going strong.
Soon, I will be supporting some New Improved Linux Operating Systems that are as good as windows and all free of charge. Yes, you can download them for 32 bit or 64 bit computers or I will burn a CD or DVD for you depending on what ends up being best for your needs or normal computing if you decide to switch to Linux like myself.
Personally, I'm betting on Linux Debian Ubuntu flavors because I've already tried their 6.10 release and its very easy to use and not very hard to learn at all, it just looks and works a little different. The new release of Ubuntu is coming out in April and after testing, I'm quite sure this will be my new Operating System for the future unless it has the GPL3, but I don't think it will. (GPL3 is Vista's spy ware and personnel software controlling requirements, DRM and the like)
There is a lot of good information everyday at my favorite site, Digg.com, for all the latest things happening in our world today but be careful, you can get hooked on Digg, its like a bad cold that won't go away...LOL... if you go there, be sure to click on the comments below each Digg but caution, some contain foul language by immature commenter's but the rest are good to read. You can set a bad word filter.
Email me back if you have any questions about the above letter. By the way, did you know MS wants to get rid of the jpeg extension with HP's support? How crazy is that? Must be jpeg's aren't safe for Vista's Trusted Computing. Tag, you're it... meaning: with a trusted computer, all of your personal information will probably be tagged to the photo when you transfer it from your camera to your computer in the new format and then again to the net. Hidden of course, isn't that wonderful, what will they think up next?
P.S. Dell Computer's have gotten some bad press recently but they also seem to be the only manufacture that has any common sense. If your going to update your PC and are considering a new O.S. let me know and I'll send you the link to their Linux machine pages. Dell looks like they are going to have a big jump start on the competition. Too bad Gateway doesn't have a crystal ball because they have a decent product, MOBO's and P.S.'s could be better. Dell and GW cases are really quiet, at least the one's you've brought over for me to work on.
Thats all, talk to you later. :-) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@gmorgan
of course, ultimately the signal has to become analog at some point. that will never be closed, unless they start cloning people with digital hearing. - obezyana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Whoa, dude. Breathe.
And, what Arramol said. This pisses off people who buy music legally just as much - if not more than - it pisses off pirates. Pirated music has the DRM stripped out by whoever uploads it; legal music doesn't - so only legal music listeners (and the very few pirates who work on cracking the DRM) are actually being punished by DRM.
Heck, i don't pirate, but i haven't bought any music from the RIAA in quite a while, either. It's all indie - and while i like indie, the whole DRM thing really annoys me because three of my favourite bands are represented by the RIAA. In fact, one of them is coming out with a new CD in about a month. And i'm not gonna buy it until i find a copy available without DRM. - thx11384eb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, scary to think that this goes as far as it does, I have been free of windows now for 6 months and it only gets easier with things like this to stay free of it as well. I just got my gf to make the switch to linux and she seems to be dealing with it quite well (although getting her wifi card working properly took a few extra steps that were worth it). I had an iriver T30 mp3 player with mtp formatting in which I was able to go to iriver's site and reformat it to come up as a normal thumb drive so I could use it properly under linux. I'm in the process of helping my gf get her mp3 player to get recognized properly (once again mtp formatting on a creative zen). This DRM they are now meshing and interlocking the hardware and software is getting ridiculous. I have really come to love linux, but I'm not the type to be an activist for it though. I have also become unofficial tech support guy for my small circle of friends and family and I definitely will try and let them know that what microsoft and apple are doing along with the hardware and how it is only going to hinder there ability to use there computer the way they want to and how they can be restricted from even putting there converted audio cds on there own devices. Death to Vista and DRM, nothing but expensive, wasteful and useless. (dx10 and the whole games for windows marketing can eat it as far as I'm concerned) Or at least a slow and miserable failure which will only help alienate customers from there products and platform
- LiterateWolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That happens when the New Economy doesn't deliver as promised. We should have kept our factories instead on relying on crappy goods made by communists in China.
- alucinor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron
“I don’t care what the Information Superhighway looks like as long as I have a tollbooth on it."
--Bill Gates - AICkieran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Call me crazy, but this is going to stop, maybe not so much with movies, but with music it will.
Each day brings a new advance in audio recording technology, as it stands recording a professional album costs next to nothing, a small amount of recording equipment and a computer is all you need, and as it gets easier and easier we're reducing the need for big labels and recording studio's, the only thing they have on the average person now is marketing power, which, with the Internet pushing multimedia more and more, that advantage will and has started to shrink.
For an example of this [not my favorite band but ***** it] look at the Arctic Monkeys, they became known purely via the Internet and file sharing, so really i think in a few years, our message to the recording studios and labels will be '***** off, we don't need you' and music may just improve since artists will have full creative control over what they produce and when.
Just my opinion -
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