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- trogdoor, on 10/11/2007, -7/+87Don't use swiftfox:
http://getswiftfox.org/ - bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -5/+59swiftfox is crap
- LordDarthVader, on 10/11/2007, -5/+58Did you notice we are talking about Firefox in UBUNTU LINUX?!
- lonnieh, on 10/11/2007, -7/+56trust schestowitz to find a link between firefox widgets and IE7
thanks for that - Narwaffle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+34Because every non-geek is *really* going to want to change their radio button styles.
/sarcasm - idonthack, on 10/11/2007, -5/+29@digitallysick
That doesn't really work as an insult.
Next time, just say this: "Your mom's a whore." - Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23*eye roll* Hacking Firefox to prettify icons a bit isn't a prerequisite to reach the masses. *Having* Firefox included though as a browser quite similar to IE 7 is though, along with having something that autodetects most of your hardware. But hacking Firefox? Nope.
- bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22What do you mean required? You have square buttons if you don't do it, my god, how can I use the internets with square buttons. Also the terminal is great. What sense does it make, and this may be unrelated, to try to make your OS be like another OS. Why would someone switch from an OS they have to an OS that is exactly the same. Bash and the terminal are one of the greatest things about linux and should not be buried especially considering the lead competitor's equivalent, cmd, being as terribly awful as it is.
- cdmarcus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15@roger: This is actually a pretty simple guide... you don't need to know anything about the terminal. Just copy and paste. And changing widgets in Firefox is an exception... I can change the whole OS's control theme with a few clicks, with a pretty much infinite selection of themes to get on http://gnome-look.org . Try that on Windows without buggy third-party software!
- stormgren, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18Yep. One app on Linux looks bad and it can be fixed easily. Oh noes!
- trogdoor, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16Most truly novice users can't even tell the difference between IE and Firefox, but I am sure they are going to be "required" to customize their Firefox widgets...
Oh, by the way, what part of the registry do you have to manually edit to change the widgets in IE7? - FreakyT, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14@chair
Gecko is what uses the ugly form widgets; since Epiphany uses Gecko for its rendering engine, it suffers from the same problem. Right now, if you want GTK widgets in webpages, your only choice is the buggy and incomplete GTK+ Webcore browser: http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/ - ninja0, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13damn that looks SO much better, thanks for posting this article
- buuch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13am i the only one who isnt bothered by this kind of stuff?
- bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Find the necessary directory and modify the commands. OSX has a terminal just the same.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12I thought like that before ubuntu Feisty was out and test the Firefox 2 under Linux. Firefox 2 is so much faster (and lighter) rendering pages that firefox 1.5.
- cdmarcus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9TheGorn: Actually, it is pretty simple. You don't need to know anything about the terminal, you just need to copy and paste. Also, yeah, I'm sure a non-geek would really want to hack their Firefox control theme.
- Narwaffle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9It really isn't that hard to copy and paste the commands into the terminal. It would be equally as cumbersome if done through the GUI, especially for the basic user who hasn't set up a root account. But I see what you're getting at. Recently, I built a computer for a friend. I installed Linux (Ubuntu) on the machine, which he was fine with. GNOME is simple to use, but the minute I started running him through the basics of the terminal, he became confused and no longer wanted to run Linux.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Heres a more cut and paste friendly version, only asks for password at the start rather than in the middle (or somehow twice even though it should only ask once every 15min):
sudo su
wget http://users.tkk.fi/~otsaloma/art/firefox-form-widgets.tar.gz
tar -xvzf firefox-form-widgets.tar.gz
cp /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res/forms.css /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res/forms.css.bak
cat firefox-form-widgets/res/forms-extra.css | sudo tee --append /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res/forms.css > /dev/null
cp -r firefox-form-widgets/res/form-widgets /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res
rm -rf firefox-form-widgets - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7@estvir
I guess you are NOT the Windows fanboy we thought you were. :) - vh1`, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7it's just modifying a CSS file, so in theory, yes
the breadcrumb for forms.css says: /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/res/forms.css - cdmarcus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Digg needs better link parsing. Here you go: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3008
- Schpariel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I made a "noob-friendly" deb package for Debian/Ubuntu that takes care of all the command line stuff:
http://smfadi.googlepages.com/firefox-alt-widgets_1.0-1_all.deb
Remember to restart Firefox after installing it, also - you can remove the package to revert all the changes - estvir, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10I originally saw this on the Ubuntu forums ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369596 ), it makes it look so much damn better. Also, I never knew these things were known as 'widgets' so that was also new to me.
If you use Gnome/FF you must follow this. :) - Firehed, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8How would an ugly radio button in any way stop someone from switching due to lack of time? Maybe I don't pay enough attention to radio buttons, but I thought they've always looked like this (the "ugly" version) and it's never bothered me.
Mind you, I think you still have an incredibly valid point. For what I do, I simply can't function effectively on a system that would require me to use the command line on any regular basis, regardless of how comfortable I am with it. Little niggles like this aren't at all an issue for me, but the process of fixing the ones that are is still equally irritating. - cynicist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@ THX1212
Hmm, like what? The only difference I can see is that the preferences have been moved from the Tools menu to the Edit menu. - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5@freakyT
GTK+ Webcore is no longer under development; webcore has been discontinued in favor of WebKit, and currently efforts are underway of porting WebKit to GTK+. You're going to be stuck with Epiphany or Firefox (or Galeon, if that floats your boat, so to speak) until current efforts yield something that will compile/be usable. - lifenstein, on 05/30/2009, -0/+4There is a script available for this at Ubuntu Forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369596
- vh1`, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4sudo -s. more like it
also, isn't there something like sudo -c "echo test > /usr/local/test" - baalzebub, on 10/11/2007, -7/+11my copy of Firefox looks great!
i think appearances of icons/menus/widgets are mostly subjective anyway, it is how they function that is important (works great too)... - Dmitrik, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6I think Ubuntu fonts are much better that Windows ones.
And I still prefer the way buttons work/look now in my browser.
So, it's not always ugly. It's just a preference.. this is why I like Open-Source (Linux, Firefox...) you can always customize anything for your personal needs or just to make it easy on YOUR eye. Not some general public crap, which isn't always as good as you'd think it is. - Tjalve, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Should do since you are just adding images and replacing a css file.
"Works" in Windows just some css bugs. - mlw4428, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Who the hell notices radio buttons when they start using an entirely new operating system?
- BigglesPiP, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I wonder if this also works in Fedora Core?
- jbus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Thanks this is a great little how-to that make pages with buttons, radio buttons, check boxes, input boxes, etc,... in Firefox look much better.
- bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The author used | tee --append because you can't redirect to these areas unless you are root. If he did
sudo cat firefox-form-widgets/res/forms-extra.css >> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res/forms.css
you would get a permission denied error because even though you are using sudo, it is only giving you root privileges to do the cat, not the redirect (>>). - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -5/+8A) Firefox isn't Linux.
B) This "Hack" isn't necessary or really even useful. Some people just have to be particular to every last detail and like things like this.
Most people don't give a ***** what the radio buttons look like. For the rest of the users out there, there's this "hack". - nawlins, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4The OSX version is just like that. Is there a tutorial how to do it for OSX?
- Fritzed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The newest version of PCLinuxOS ( http://www.pclinuxos.com/ ) just came out. I'd recommend giving it a try along with Ubuntu Feisty.
- cdmarcus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I'm not much of a CLI guru... but is /dev/null > really necessary? Couldn't you just do > /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res/forms.css >
It seems that the author of the guide used tee --append (redirecting stdout to /dev/null) because they didn't know that >> appends... could anyone verify whether I'm right or not? - garblax, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Hopefully the author of the blog post is the same as
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369596&highlight=firefox+widgets
Otherwise this is just mean =P - Drevor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Wow, all the flame. Just because - what exactly? Because buttons look like *sigh* BUTTONS?
- egorgry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Nope. I never even noticed until this article. Maybe it's because I don't use windows or OSX enough to notice my crappy looking buttons?
- bradleyland, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You guys are entirely too optimistic. I can hardly get some of my customers to recognize the "information bar" in Firefox and IE. How do you think they're going to cope with a command line of any sort? Simple. They're not. When they see "DOS" (what they call it when I use any command prompt), they switch off. They are the consumer. They have all the dollars to spend. You must bend to their will.
- PARTyZAN, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Are there any howtos like this one for KDE users?
- pixas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I can confirm that it works under OS X as well. Show contents of the firefox.app package and search for 'res'
- chair, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6I've noticed this before, but I just thought it was because I was using Firefox under KDE. I guess it's because Firefox is desktop environment independent that it has this issue. Konqueror page widgets will use the Qt style, and I assume Epiphany will use GTK widgets, but Firefox will always default to the lowest common denominator. Kinda like how it has it's own file selector rather than using the ( god awful :-P ) GNOME one.
- Eggman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@tehmoth (#6887832)
let me see you do it. - tehmoth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2couldn't this be easily done in userChrome.css in the ~/.mozilla directory?
- cynicist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Thats strange, it worked very well for me.
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