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- sockpuppets, on 11/15/2007, -3/+92Some people don't have enormous disposable incomes. That doesn't make them trailer trash.
- tarkam, on 11/14/2007, -2/+69This comment really had me laughing:
"Wal-Mart shoppers are so unsophisticated they equate physical size with capability."
They should have seen the computers in the 70's those were pretty powerful! - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -15/+78I have to disagree, I think Windows is going to face some serious market share loss within the next few years. The next computing platform is the cell phone and cell phone sized computers, and linux already rules those.
- Corey1982, on 11/15/2007, -3/+54Hmm... while I love Ubuntu, I wonder how many of these machines were bought by mistake.
- JointheArmy, on 11/14/2007, -4/+52"About two weeks ago, Wal-Mart began selling $200 Linux-based PC. The initial run was around 10,000 units. Now Wal-Mart is sold out. Has Linux now found a niche?"
I don't think it has. Wal-Mart customers without computers probably saw a $200 computer and thought it was a great deal - not because Linux found a new fan base. - UNL1M1T3D, on 11/14/2007, -1/+41They still have plenty of "Daddy's Girl" glitter shirts, though.
- 4321234, on 11/14/2007, -3/+34I wonder how many Walmart shoppers took one home, have used it for a week, and STILL don't know it hasn't got Windows on it.
- daftman, on 11/14/2007, -3/+28Well that kinda prove you wrong since gOS is Linux and so far it's selling well to the "trailer trash"
- Gavagai80, on 11/14/2007, -1/+25Congratulations on being rich. It certainly gives you the right to spit on those of us who don't have disposable income, my lord.
- Roger, on 11/14/2007, -9/+32"The next computing platform is the cell phone and cell phone sized computers, and linux already rules those."
Err... not really. Most PDAs run Windows Mobile and few cellphones run Linux.
"I think Windows is going to face some serious market share loss within the next few years"
I've been hearing that for 10 years now. - schestowitz, on 11/14/2007, -1/+24Well done, Everex team. As SJVN said:
"When a desktop Linux distribution suddenly becomes popular before even DistroWatch starts tracking it, you know you've got something special. One new Ubuntu-based distribution, gOS, has managed to capture users' attention purely by word of mouth over the Internet."
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8172133608.html
"Good Luck gOS and I am glad you are here..."
Michael Perks - GliTCH82, on 11/14/2007, -1/+23Do you remember that one time you thought other people actually give a ***** about who you have on your block list, and you inadvertently made everyone on Digg realize how much of a dumbass you are? Oh, right, that was now, no one cares, and you're still a ***** tool.
- santiago1, on 11/14/2007, -4/+22 Considering the level of people who shop at Walmart, I get the strange sensation the Internet is about to get a WHOLE lot worse..... if that's possible.
- warsql, on 11/14/2007, -0/+17 -- Many people that bought one of those gOS PCs are probably running pirated XP on them now.
Except that the hardware can't run XP.
On the other hand, I wonder how many people bought these not realizing their favorite software (games, tax software, etc) won't run on it. - likeyehokwhatev, on 11/14/2007, -0/+14Funny how something that used to be exclusively geek is now becoming popular among those who only care about using their internets and the google.
- afx1, on 11/14/2007, -1/+15good thing you didn't block sockpuppets.
- Wrathernaut, on 11/14/2007, -0/+13"Why-fy? I just want it to plug into that internet box the cable guy installed.
Blue teeth? Not since I started brushing.
So long as I can get my youtube, myspace, electronic mail and teh intarnets I'm fine."
- Average PC User - neodorian, on 11/14/2007, -0/+13Why would you try to run Windows software on Linux (if you didn't know how to use Wine or whatever)? Why put PS2 discs in your XBOX? The point is that they have a basic web browsing and home productivity computer for $200. For all the grannies and hillbillies who only need an "internet box", this is perfect. The right tool for the right job. Why pay more if you don't need to?
- Wrathernaut, on 11/14/2007, -2/+14Big Game Hunter XXVVIII will just have to make a Linux version.
- KloroFormd, on 11/14/2007, -0/+12Install Mac software on Windows. Gosh, what a totally unfriendly operating system Microsoft has...
Run software designed for the OS, and things are simple. - banmaster, on 11/14/2007, -6/+16As a commenter has said above, a LOT of these will probably be returned when the stupid hick purchasers find out they can't run ANY of the software they want!
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -1/+11Yes, windows mobile is common on smart phones, but a lot more phones than you think run embedded linux. Most people I know hate windows mobile and only use it because palm is limiting. A good linux mobile os alternative might easily take over. Also to banmaster, please, can we make real comments? banmaster do you think your comment makes you sound intelligent?
- bradcrc, on 11/14/2007, -2/+11I'd imagine a lot of the people who bought these machines have absolutely no idea that the software isle at walmart doesn't contain software they can run.
That said, I think this is a great step. If only schools would take the hint and begin buying these low price point PCs so new students learn on linux, they would bring that to their future employers and eventually the idea of spending more for a really awful operating system than the hardware to run it on will be a silly memory. - dpjames, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9ten thousand times two hundred is two million
- cawfee, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9I think the magnitude of what you're implying is equivalent of throwing a lump of coal into a smoldering volcano. What's a couple more Myspace pages and hits on Ebaums.
- bigrod56, on 11/14/2007, -5/+14Screw the motherboard to the back of a 20 inch LCD (available at under $200) and offer it at the iLinux for $400. The single piece, with no cables to plug in, will be even less intimidating. Compare it to $1200 for the cheapest iMac. There isn't a Linux implementation of iTunes is there?
Mitch - vladmazek, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9I can go by the sample size of my staff (~60 folks) that all went out and got one of these and stuck it in the data center for a spare shell box. I think the first wave might have been completely consumed by the people that actually know what Linux is, not just gazers that "got a computer for $200 to manage bank accounts"
As for the summary, "did Linux find its niche" - no, "but more and more people are realizing that the platform doesn't matter when all your apps and data are in the cloud" and in that case the cheaper, the quieter, the lower-power-consumption the better.
On face alone, $200 sunk on this gives a lot more back to someone that may have an aging 5-6 year old computer with expired A/V and 16 IE toolbars. Just sayin'
-Vlad - h4mx0r, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9200 dollars for any PC with any OS is going to sell. Well, maybe except Windows ME, but that's another story.
- PhonicUK, on 11/14/2007, -3/+11I'm wondering how many people buy these machines knowing full well they run Ubuntu, and go and install a pirated copy of XP?
Linux machine purchases != Linux users?
Dunno guys, could go either way here...
At the end of the day though, its a step in the direction! The more pressure the monopolies feel the more inclination they have to get their acts together and focus on quality products instead of manipulative (read: illegal) business practices to guarentee market share. - greevar, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8Linux has all the necessary productivity apps it needs to compete with windows (i.e. open office, gimp, firefox). What the Linux market really needs is a large influx of AAA quality game titles. I would be glad to drop windows if i could play my favorite games on Linux as efficiently as I can in windows. And as for the few odd MS apps you can't live without, WINE takes care of that. All in all, here's hoping these cheap Linux boxes bring new competition and innovation to a stagnant OS market.
- dfarq, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8I see two sides to this. I sold computers at retail in the mid 1990s and had to explain to people who were looking at Macintoshes that only two of the aisles of software were stuff that would run on a Mac, the other 8 aisles were for DOS/Windows (yeah, DOS). Some people were OK with that. Others developed a sudden interest in Compaq.
But if you want a simple computer for basic needs and don't anticipate ever wanting off-the-shelf software, a $200 PC running Linux is awesome. The price is fantastic, but besides that, it's way too easy for someone who doesn't know what they're doing to destroy a Windows machine with viruses and spyware. The next time the guy my mom married messes up their computer and brings it back to me to fix, it's coming back to them with Linux (probably Ubuntu) loaded on it. As long as Mom can still read her e-mail and type letters, that's all that matters.
Some people never run any software other than what comes on the computer when they buy it, and Linux can serve that niche as well as anything. - ripple123, on 11/14/2007, -2/+9Itll be like AOL times 1000. Truly this is a black dawn for the internet
- glasgowm, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Sell this in the UK for £100 in a smaller case and ubuntu preinstalled and it'll sell like hell :o
- TeacherOfHeroes, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Even dell pays somewhere around $60 for windows vista home (basic?). That is infinitely more than linux costs :P
- Gman1223, on 11/14/2007, -3/+10I won't sit here and rant and rave about how linux will take over, but I think its my place to sit here and tell you why what you said is retarded.
You can't compare the two. Linux can be installed on pretty much anything with a cpu. Apple can only be run on their own hardware.
Linux has an advantage over mac, anyone can sell it, be it dell, hp, gateway or what have you. Dell has said they want to sell OSX on their systems and apple gave them the finger, thats why mac will never get anywhere in the market share department. Linux has disadvantages too, like the lack of hardware support and people who are willing to port their software over, but those things are fixable, and people want them to be fixed. Linux is only beginning to become a real alternative, and will be one within the next 2 to 4 years. Give it time. - KibibyteBrain, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8Android == Linux, and everyone is jumping on that...
- Gavagai80, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7And what does the core 2 duo do for me when all my favorite applications (KDE, KOffice, amarok, kopete, opera etc) are quite speedy even with 20 windows open on my cheap older computer? What's the point of wifi and bluetooth for a desktop computer that sits in the same place all the time, exactly? Why would I care about a nice case design when I'm not entering a beauty contest or snobbery challenge?
- RAEP, on 11/14/2007, -5/+12"Whuts that line-ux thingamajig Cleetus?"
- sjbdallas, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7If it had a camo paintjob they would have sold out faster.
- Kratos76, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6OMG are you serious? What could you possibly use out of this? the $30 DVDrom/cdrw or the $15 512ddr2 ram? Mobo is proprietary for the same processor... not intel or amd. Onboard graphics and network and audio. Maybe a $20 powersupply. You wasted your money dude. You'd have been way better off having 5 working machines internet ready with firefox, office compatible apps and a cd burner.
- jstone, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6I've actually seen this kind of thing done a lot. Many consumer electronics (especially low-end audio visual equipment) is a large, mostly empty, plastic shell with some metal added to make it feel heavier. The misconception that bigger=better is common. I guess people want to get a lot of material for their money; they must feel that, when something is small and expensive, they are being short-changed and should be getting 'more' (keep in mind that the average person does not take into account the R&D spent to make the items smaller.) The only thing that escapes this way of thinking is the cell phone, and I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason they do is that they are mostly battery, making their weight/size ratio quite high.
- digudown, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6how? Show me a retailer who sells $200 windows PC?
- joebleaux, on 11/14/2007, -2/+8Those people do not know that there are a such thing as reviews. They will be giving their review to the obese woman at the Wal-Mart returns counter.
- Kratos76, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6OUCH Saturn! That hurts dude. Tell us all how you are an expert again?! It seems to me that with this very PC being sold out by Walmart of all places, the release of the many Ubuntu Dell PCs and future rumors about HP and Sony, Your opinion is not based on facts.
- redcard, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6I suspect we (the linux fans) bought all of them.
- manstein01, on 11/14/2007, -2/+8At some point, it will happen, but who knows when? The key right now is market share, and third party support. If they started making a turbotax or a photoshop for Linux, then things could very well pickup. Until then, it's a long up-hill struggle.
And to others Apple would have a great deal more market share if the morons in charge didn't discontinue the MAC-clones ten years ago. - arbulus, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6does the fact that wal-mart also sells $499 Dells mean that Windows Vista is a "redneck os"?
No, it means that there is an affordable, accessible, easy to use computer that is just right for most average users. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you that you think everyone who buys a comp has to buy a tricked out uber gaming rig running Vista Ultimate that they built themselves from parts bought on NewEgg?
You know, not everyone in the world is a power user. This $200 machine would be perfect for my mother in law, or my young nephew, or my teenage nephew, or my sister, or my parents, or anyone who just wants a computer. This is a great opportunity for people to have a computer who might not ordinarily be able to afford $1000 for a machine, and it gives them exactly what most users are looking for. Why do you have to ***** this down? - daftman, on 11/14/2007, -2/+8Amarok+Bittorrent
I doubt people who buy $200 PC would waste money on iTunes - smickey1, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5Video cards aren't software. As for these boxes I'm sure they went with a video card that worked. Sorry your video card sucks though, maybe you should get a new one?.
- Lane, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5Clearly you haven't played barbie dress up online death match.
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