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- wontstoptalking, on 07/06/2009, -1/+79Virtualbox is one of my favorite example of a great open source software.
- sanford42, on 07/06/2009, -8/+60This is a very positive step in the right direction. Most of the people I know who refuse to leave Windows for Linux say that the ONLY reason is because of video games that won't work through WINE. Regardless of how much they complain about being sick of Windows, and no matter how many times I say "well, you can try Linux, it works for me and has for years", they bring up a list of games that don't run in Linux. But this helps reduce dependency on a single operating system.
It's still buggy, but it exists now, and it's more than a "Proof of Concept" at this point. - Jonjonr6, on 07/06/2009, -2/+41In the end, they still need windows to play the games.
- themusicalduck, on 07/06/2009, -1/+19This is great that they're working on it and that it's making good progress, but it has a little way to go before it can be used for games. I tried to run a few old/simple games on an XP guest to see how well it coped. I tried Tomb Raider 2, Seal online and FF8, but none of them were playable. Seal online seemed to crash the system, Tomb Raider ran extremely slow and FF8 didn't run at all (actually I think this is down to it being Directx 6 only so it doesn't really count).
Although they did run where they didn't before, so it's all good progress. I didn't try any opengl games either. - dkrender, on 07/06/2009, -14/+31Sup dawg, we heard you like gaming, so we put an OS in your OS so you can game while you game!
- doshindude, on 07/06/2009, -0/+17The console window: More ***** hardcore than 3D graphics.
- RonDutt, on 07/06/2009, -12/+26Tired of all the fanboy wars...all operating systems are, in the end, equal. I use Windows at home and haven't had a virus in over 8 years. I use Linux at work and it's crashed at least twice in the past year (while the Windows server has been running strong for 3 years). I use a Mac for personal hobby stuff (video, music, etc) and tbh, ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME! Yeah Windows used to blow back in the day, but so did Linux and it's support for the vast list of hardware available. It's the user thats always at fault, not the software.
@argusbargus Guess what, the same could have happened on Linux or Mac. There are rootkits for Linux, as there are for Macs. If your kids go clicking around free screensavers and free barney hug ads, theres a high risk chance of something going horribly wrong, no matter what OS you're on. - NeoNevermore, on 07/06/2009, -6/+20Sup dawg, we heard you like Bill Gates, so we put a Windows in your Windows so you can BSOD while you BSOD!
- digitalpencil, on 07/06/2009, -1/+13you're doing it wrong.
- jaywag, on 07/06/2009, -1/+12I installed it the other day and had to revert back to 2.2.4.
It may be able to handle 3D graphics now, but it can no longer handle the console window of an Ubuntu server installation. - Clbull, on 07/06/2009, -1/+11Likely not.
- z1freeride, on 07/06/2009, -1/+11Virtual box is awesome. Not sure why people like the other expensive options.
- TrevorBradley, on 07/06/2009, -3/+13Windows running a Ubuntu VirtualBox with Compiz.
(As of now) You're doing it wrong... - constchar, on 07/06/2009, -0/+10I think you can but you'd need a Hackintosh version, which means you'll have to obtain or modify your Leopard through illegitimate means.
- N01SE, on 07/06/2009, -0/+10Any OS does not have trouble rendering graphics, they all utilize very similar GPU architectures in fact. The API/windowing systems is where the difference lies, Linux uses OpenGL, and Windows typically uses Direct3D although OpenGL can be used as well for graphics processing, and the windowing system APIs are totally different of course. WINE adds a level of encapsulation to games processing so it tends to be slower.
Game companies could easily make games across platforms by utilizing OpenGL instead of Direct3D for graphics, OpenAL for sound, etc., but most tend to go the DirectX way, why I'm not sure. - megamod, on 07/06/2009, -0/+9You obviously have no clue what VirtualBox is then if you don't see what's special about the way it "brings" 3D and OpenGL support.
- argusbargus, on 07/06/2009, -17/+26Think about it for a moment: why would you want the virus breeding ground hosting the infinitely more stable platform? It makes more sense that Linux is the host and Windows is the guest. The host will not be compromised but the guest can be restored from a backup every time it becomes infected.
And please don't whine that "it doesn't happen with my Windows" - I have spent the last four days eliminating the rootkits / viruses / worms / malware from my kids' machines that were supposed to be protected by firefox, windows firewall, bit defender and spy bot search & destroy. I have used almost every anti virus, anti malware and anti rootkit known, and still they persist. The only reason someone would say "it doesn't happen with my Windows" is because they just don't realize that it already has. - deepbl, on 07/06/2009, -0/+8Unfortunately, their 3D support will be about as useful as the 3D support offered by every other OS virtualization product -- completely useless.
Certainly can't fault them for trying... but they're wasting their time.
- JollySpace, on 07/06/2009, -0/+8No, they won't.
>.> - clarious, on 07/06/2009, -5/+13@RonDutt: Well, a proper configured Windows system should be quite stable. But then there is another problem, Linux openess is its main advantage, sure, normal Joe sixpack doesn't care about that, but in the long term, Linux will prevail.
And an example? I can watch H264 video decoded by my GPU on Linux while I can't do with the same video on Windows, it is all thank to great user feed back and contribution in the open part of Nvidia driver for Linux.
And remember that most Windows box are very badly configured. - CrackyJSquirrel, on 07/06/2009, -0/+8Because 3 is a major release and 2.X wont prompt you to update to a 3.X version.
This is what happened when 2.X came out. - megamod, on 07/06/2009, -1/+8RTFA
- Azimuth1, on 07/06/2009, -0/+6So does that mean that Aero in Windows 7 will work now?
- MagicBobert, on 07/06/2009, -0/+5Most of it was released under the GPL by InnoTek even before they were bought by Sun.
- courtjester555, on 07/06/2009, -3/+8*Yo
- stotty, on 07/06/2009, -1/+6I'd sooner have dual monitor support in seamless mode.
- Sealbhach, on 07/06/2009, -1/+6I put WinXP in a Virtualbox on Ubuntu and installed three games on it, none of them worked. So, nice that they're trying but for me the only practical use I have for Windows is games.
- freezerburn666, on 07/06/2009, -2/+7guess i'll have to stick to vista on my desktop if i want to keep playing great games like prototype.. but progress is good :D
- haikuFU, on 07/06/2009, -1/+5Clearly you are reading your own troubleshooting teleprompting script which tells the customer to reboot multiple times.
- Myztry, on 07/06/2009, -3/+7Linux keeps moving towards interopability while Windows keeps moving away. I want everything to work together, so I prefer Linux.
- mikedoth, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Typically that's all they need it for....
- ninja0, on 07/06/2009, -0/+4Then comes the windows user "but I need a more powerful system to game in a VM running unter linux".
Which is true. - inactive, on 07/06/2009, -0/+4I can't get the sound to work consistently. Other than that, Ubuntu Linux is great.
- MattBD, on 07/06/2009, -1/+5That's something you'll have to take up with Apple - I think they should make a trial version of OS X that would run in a VM or off a live CD that had only minimal capabilites (just software they give away like iTunes and Safari, the basic desktop, and Finder) so people can try it on their existing hardware. OS X is a big jump into the dark and risks a lot of money, while you don't lose anything by trying an Ubuntu live CD.
- llbbl, on 07/06/2009, -0/+4you have it backwards
- specialK16, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3VMware feels way faster than Virtual Box. I will give this a try though.
- Taiyoryu, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3I reverted to 2.2.4 because I could not get my Linux guests to use the provided guest additions. Actually, I can't do the same with 2.2.4 either. However, there are at least packages for virtualbox-ose-guest-utils for 2.2.4 which does work. I really wanted to get OpenGL working for Compiz effects. Also is there any way to get full-screen without having to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf? My Windows guests have no problems switching to full-screen.
- U83RMENSCH, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3I dont understand why a VM has to use your cpu and your ram.. but can not use your gpu.. why is it so hard to make the gpu available to use in VM?
- pinchduck, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
- specialK16, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3Actually, this isn't new at all for Vbox. It's been there for a while.
- 1o23r, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3i think you miss the point
- fragMasterFlash, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3Windows boots pretty fast these days and disk space couldn't be much cheaper. Set up dual boot so you can have a gaming system that makes no compromises.
- Raptor007, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3Why would Apple want you to "try it on their existing hardware"? They want you to run it on their hardware. That's why every Apple store has Macs set up for people to come in and try.
- jackusage, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3So far I haven't gotten SMP to work for Window OS guests. VBox so far doesn't have an answer. Otherwise the 3D is great but it's without multiple CPUs. I agree it's a step in the right direction.
- RobotBuddha, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2I thought the gui in windows 7 was pretty good as well. But if it's just for games it doesn't seem like it'd really matter. When I boot into windows, it's usually just a click on an icon on the desktop.
Though if it was for actual use I'd agree that 7 would be the way to go over xp. - Foda, on 07/06/2009, -2/+4You must not have a computer built within the past 4 years. Even my old Pentium D and Ati X600 run at the same framerate in Vista versus Xp. Get off the bandwagon.
- ifallen, on 07/06/2009, -0/+2I am all for this improvement,
although i can duel boot, it would be very nice to have a free way of avoiding it.
As a side note, the number of games I care to play which lack Mac support is starting to diminish, as EA and some others are starting to show us some more love, Especially since my favorite games are made by Blizzard and have had Mac support since I've been gaming. - sark666, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2Heh this is kind of funny, I want to try an opengl game with this but it already has a linux client. I'm talking about Quake Wars. Ya bash the game, that and ET are two of the best games I've ever played. Anyway, id has been always great with linux clients but a lot of people say (myself included) that they can't get the same performance with this game in linux as they can in windows. If it's a nvidia driver issue then this wouldn't help, but if it's something with the linux binary then maybe this would help and it would stop my daily rebooting to play this game.
So I've read the d3d is pretty buggy, but what's the opengl like? - Rememberthe0511, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2Yes, yes it can.
- lofilotek, on 07/06/2009, -0/+2Soon as I started using this, I ditched parallels and vmware fusion. I just needed something fast for cross browser compatibility and Virtualbox was it. Kudos to an awesome open source project!
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