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- DarkNemesis618, on 11/16/2007, -0/+25I'm not much of a Dell fan, but I do like that they are willing to offer linux on some of their computers, and hopefully they'll do a good job with their server side now as well.
- HentaiJeff, on 11/16/2007, -1/+15so I can then bury you for acting like a n00b yourself?
- ArthurSucks, on 11/16/2007, -0/+13Hey look everyone, an elitist *****!
- chickenbandit, on 11/16/2007, -0/+10I totally love my ubuntu LTS servers. Nice to see Dell starting to support it, hopefully this will mean more package support for hardware from the big vendors.
- inactive, on 11/16/2007, -0/+10well he has a point. this way idiots like him wont be allowed to admin a server.
- Heretushi, on 11/16/2007, -5/+15Stopped reading at "Ubuntu is extremely popular on the desktop". To be fair, Ubuntu is the only linux distro I use because of the superb community and because it is the simplest, most compatible out of the box I found around, but really, extremely popular? More popular than other distro, surely. But come on...
- knomevol, on 11/16/2007, -0/+8what he doesn't get is it's not a n00b environment at all. it's a well thought out, quality controlled linux distrubution. the desktop installs effortlessly and updates are a breeze, that's the only n00bness about it.
frankly i've got better things to do than to spend a week every month patching servers by network scripting compiles. - LinuxKitty, on 11/16/2007, -0/+7Well, in the Linux context that is true. No other Linux distro comes even close. No, I don't use it (using Arch), but Ubuntu has become the Linux flagship. So far, Ubuntu has increased Linux awareness among Joe User more than any distro before it. (Good funding, huge community, marketing.)
- knomevol, on 11/16/2007, -1/+8you are a waste of a keyboard.
- knomevol, on 11/16/2007, -0/+7sys admin for 13 years. when given the purchasing reigns i go straight to dell.com.
all computers will break, that is the nature of the beast. in my work, making mental notation, dell servers break less. also, when purchasing, 100% of the time i also get "complete care" coverage with "next business day service" so that when it does break it's working again within 24 hours. i've always been very pleased with dell's support - but only if it's in the CC+NBD queue.
not to mention, my latitude notebook with kubuntu works pefectly. i run xp pro in a virtual machine to make use of my USB 2.0 laser printer/scanner, though, that's the only drawback. - webyatri, on 11/16/2007, -0/+7I run ubuntu on my desktop which has a licensed copy of windows. I run windows on my laptop which spends most of the time updating windows and anti-viruses and ant-whatnots ....
- inactive, on 11/17/2007, -0/+6First of all no one said that Ubuntu is installed on more servers than RHEL, no one even said that it is a threat to RHEL right now and I guess that the last time you checked _ten years_ ago your local university didn't have classes for RH certifications either.
"This is what Red Hat realized years ago, and perhaps what Ubuntu is slowly starting to realize today."
I don't know what you think but Ubuntu barely have 3 years now and look at all it has accomplished. The people behind Ubuntu always have know where the money is but they have a business plan AND is working. Like Mark Shuttleworth said, Ubuntu is getting noticed in the server for what it has done on the desktop, otherwise no one would have give a ***** about the distro. - macoafi, on 11/16/2007, -0/+6You know Ubuntu Server Edition doesn't have any of the GUI-simple stuff, right? It's just Debian with a few non-open-source drivers thrown in.
- schestowitz, on 11/16/2007, -3/+9That ought to give Red Hat a gentle kick in the pants (Oracle, CentOS, Novell and others aside) and improve pricing for the consumer. Good news.
- macoafi, on 11/16/2007, -0/+5Ubuntu is Debian with a few non-open-source drivers, a fixed release schedule, and a company offering a 1-800 number for tech support.
- BinaryFragger, on 11/16/2007, -1/+6And they're you have one of the major problems with Linux -- the elitism.
People hope for widespread Linux adoption, but when a user-friendly distro is released, they complain that it's too easy to use. I don't understand that at all.
It's a good thing that Ubuntu / Linspire / etc are easy to use; they help convert more people to Linux. If you think it's for 'n00bs', use Gentoo or whatever the hell you like to use. - inactive, on 11/17/2007, -0/+4Keep denying the truth won't make it go away...
- CSharpSauce, on 11/16/2007, -0/+4As someone who uses exclusively dell servers, this is very good news, though it doesn't really affect me as we've been having dell install linux on our servers for years. Dell will do anything you want if you buy enough :)
- BrandonMills, on 11/16/2007, -1/+5Good luck. The server market is quite different from the desktop market. In fact, as to why you'd use Ubuntu instead of Debian itself is still one of the bigger questions that comes to mind. It's a server, it doesn't need a bunch of graphical user-friendly bloat. It needs a slim install and a server admin who knows how to wtf he's doing.
- snek, on 11/16/2007, -1/+5lol i don't use Ubuntu because it's free.. I use it because Windows won't stay stable that long running all the crap I run..
However, I could run any Linux or BSD version to do the same, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu..
If I were too tight I wouldn't have a 2nd PC just for gaming worth over €3000,- running a dualboot setup of XP & Vista Ultimate, you little whining Windows Fanboy ;p - ucg1, on 11/16/2007, -0/+4Wow, what a convincing and intelligent argument. I'm sure you convince lots of people to agree with your ideas with your powers of persuasion.
- knomevol, on 11/16/2007, -0/+31) hey man, i may be a neubee, what would my opinion matter to you?
2) is this an interview? what's the medical insurance like? any dental plan? - sylverboss, on 11/16/2007, -1/+4we bought a Dell PowerEdge 2950, with RAID10 .. tried to install Ubuntu Server 6.10 , but no chance to make it boot .. a lot better with CentOS 4.4 .. sorry guys, still some work to do .. kind of paradoxal, i think
- tpink, on 11/16/2007, -0/+3"Boss, we're going to have to take the server down for two hours?"
"Why?"
"We need to recompile gcc, then recompile the kernel with the new gcc"
Nothing wrong with Gentoo, but I don't consider it a contender for business servers when recompiling significant portions of the system on a regular basis is the norm. Ubuntu is just Debian with more up to date packages and some of their own home grown stuff like upstart. It's hardly unstable or a toy. - Rijnzael, on 11/17/2007, -0/+3We're running a similar Dell server in a RAID5 configuration on 7.10 with no problems.
- snek, on 11/16/2007, -0/+3lol, too true.. too true..
Anyway, this guy is just trolling around under different account names, posting the same brainless rant over and over.. - bmartin, on 11/16/2007, -3/+6Is running an intuitive OS on a server such a bad thing? My ideal server could be optimized with the click of a button so that the Digg effect didn't bring it down.
- asforme, on 11/17/2007, -1/+4Way to hijack a topic, or do you play Crysis on your server?
- Phocion55, on 11/16/2007, -1/+4Your "strapped for cash" argument would make sense if I didn't have eight desktops running a mix of WinXP, Gentoo, and Ubuntu at home.
- knomevol, on 11/16/2007, -0/+3ah, yeah! i see that green hand with dirty fingernails waving out from under the bridge now....
- BrandonMills, on 11/16/2007, -4/+6Ubuntu has a long way to go on the server before I even consider running it. Red Hat has earned my trust with years of excellent service. I know it's fun to play fanbois for your favorite Linux distro on Digg, but seriously, look up a comparison of how many RHEL servers are running compared to Ubuntu servers. Last I checked, Ubuntu didn't have classes at my local university for Ubuntu certifications. Last I checked, Ubuntu doesn't have gigantic financial resources to fuel its grand goals.
You want to play in the corporate game? Fine, but you have to play ball. This is what Red Hat realized years ago, and perhaps what Ubuntu is slowly starting to realize today. That all it would take is for Google to flex a single muscle, put their name on Ubuntu, and suddenly their limelight is gone and they're forever known as GoogleOS. - thomashauk, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2That was 6.06...
- troye, on 11/18/2007, -0/+2How did I hijack the topic?
- CSharpSauce, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2Installing ANY OS on a 2950 can be a pain :) (until you find that CD you forgot to take out of the box)
- ucg1, on 11/16/2007, -1/+3You must be a highly intelligent person.
- MeatBiProduct, on 11/16/2007, -1/+3dell is the ford motor company of server equipment.
- TheOther1, on 11/18/2007, -0/+2Vista hype is better?
- andycr512, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2I didn't say anything about having to use Gentoo.
Oh, and I'm experienced, I'm not particularly guilty of being a zealot, and I use Ubuntu. I use Ubuntu because it works for me, not because it's "the best os ever!!11". I imagine Fedora etc. would fit my needs just as well, but I already have Ubuntu installed so why mess with what works? - goffy59, on 11/16/2007, -2/+4Great news.
- macoafi, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2Ubuntu's Server Edition is text-based and always has been. More advanced Ubuntu users looking for a little performance boost tend to install the server edition then add on just what they want instead of the graphical user-friendly bloat.
- macoafi, on 11/16/2007, -1/+3I technically paid for Windows when I bought this laptop, but I installed Ubuntu before Windows even booted.
Ubuntu has lots of free tech support on the internet too. If you go on #ubuntu for help, there's always a good chance the person helping you debug is a developer. I really wouldn't say the free Windows stuff online is "professional." Professional implies paid. Professional Windows tech support means calling Microsoft, and professional Ubuntu tech support means calling Canonical. - knomevol, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2one of two things, depending on the scenario:
1) compiling the binaries from source with the addition of patches and scripting their distribution across the network
or
2) scripting the distribution of the patches, the melding to the source, and the compilation of binaries at the servers
and thirdly, i do not like what redhat does to linux (it's like they do to linux what ibm did to their implementation of unix, aix - it's fugly), though forced to admin it in some cases, i do my best to steer towards other variants - ScottyMcBaggs, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2How's your power bill? www.vmware.com
- macoafi, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2Debian Stable crashes / hard locks / stops working after 5 minutes of being booted for me. Ubuntu will run for days with no problems on the same hardware. In my case, Ubuntu makes a LOT more sense. Granted, this is on a laptop, but I would expect such similar distros to work similarly. Something about Debian is broken though. And my hardware is all covered by open source drivers, so they should be matching on those too.
- asforme, on 11/17/2007, -0/+1I know several. One in particular didn't want a new computer and asked me to fix their virus ridden windows 98. I told them that I could install a non-windows oprating system that wouldn't get viruses and could do everything she was doing before: Office & web browsing.
- RoadWarriorX11, on 11/16/2007, -0/+1So i guess people like MaddDogg , Mark Shuttleworth, and Richard Stallman are "elitists, who most of the time, don't know ***** about linux"?
Get a life and a clue ***** undesirable nerd - knomevol, on 11/17/2007, -0/+1ah, but what you're lacking in the case of taking their binaries versus compiling your own is your own will be tailored to your specific hardware: faster and more efficient system.
there is a place for each. - ,,|,_, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1Consumer branded Dell stuff isn't the greatest but their desktops and Latitude model notebooks are decent. Their Servers though are rock solid.
Despite the rumors, I actually prefer working with Dell support over that of their competitors. We pay the extra cash for Gold support so I always get one of 3 or 4 of the same agents who just happen to be in the same city as I am whenever I need to request new parts. - TheOther1, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1paradoxical, maybe?
- andycr512, on 11/16/2007, -0/+1I used to use Gentoo. However, I have better things to do with my time then spend 2 hours every week compiling updates. In short, elitist snob go home.
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