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- dorkstyle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+49For me it did! The Live CD boot up and 15 minute install floored me. It was up and running on my laptop with 100% hardware detection, nvidia drivers, and my linksys wifi card without having to go through the whole ndiswrapper ordeal. Super fast and stable, i would recommend it to anyone.
- pufuwozu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Not our problem, you're the one missing out.
- Elxx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13You can replace "Ubuntu" with "Wii", "Apple", "Ajax", and more. If you don't like it, don't digg it. :)
- Magadass, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16I hope people arent digging my reply simply because they hate linux, its a great os and definitly has its place. I have tried EVERYTHING to get it to install on my main system it hangs every single time. I have tried usng the Seperate installation CD and that still didnt work, followed some guides with no avail. So yeah I am bummed now, really wanted to mess with it and get some XGL running with the little cube switcher thing haha I love that thing...This isnt a new issue it happened with previous version also but I was hoping it was fixed, its an issue with my chipset or something and its always during the "Adding Live CD user" which is odd to me cause why the hell would that be an issue?
- Woofcat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Also a Ubuntu 6.06 user. Damn nice distro. I would give it to anyone, hell if they were a windows user i would print a cd for them with a spiffy label and mail it to them.
- diggtastical, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9wow! just like Mark Shuttleworth! would you go to space also??
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9your wish is granted, ginsuguy. vista will be more buggy.
- tHePeOPle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@Magadass
I had a similar problem. What I did was burn my install cd at a slower speed. When I did that, everything went smoothly. - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8PPC builds are often way behind their PC brethren with hardware support, so don't digg this guy down for asking a valid question.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6plenty of pain left in openbsd, go giddit!
- thecatisdead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@waitingforjune - I've used both SuSE 10.1 and Dapper ... using Dapper right now and it is amazing. 15 minute install - detected and configured everything, even my pci wireless card! EasyUbuntu, and I'm in heaven. I used to be a SuSE fan, but Dapper is amazing. Absolutely go Dapper.
Edit: I've played around with FC5 too (not as much as SuSE and Dapper), but Dapper is just plug and play. It is truly amazing. Use FC5 for a server, Dapper for a desktop!
@KingDork: the zealots have a valid point this time ... I shared your point of view until I installed Dapper. - b7j0c, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6dapper let me turn my powerbook into something useful. no more beachballs of death. no more "apple knows better than me" UI. no more "you don't get to uninstall apps". no more "kinda unix, kinda" unix utilities. no more DAILY nags to update itunes.
- Jomwilli, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Cleaned my fish tank, slopped the hogs and washed my hair all within a 15 minute boot and install. I love you Dapper Drake(Dapper Dan's younger brother of course).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No, you can't.
26.8% of Ubuntu stories are frontpaged
16% of Apple/Mac
10% of ajax
http://www.digg.com/technology/Some_statistics_about_Digg :) - bartbrinkman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Wondering if this would work on the latest PPC iBook. Anyone tried this?
- zackery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@danielwsmithee
YMMV, but I've been using sleep and Airport on my iBook G3 for over 2 years. If something doesn't work, check the Ubuntu Wiki for a solution, it's an invaluable resource. - Flankk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"If you just want to update your system in a hurry with many of the more popular modifications, such as the Skype VoIP client, proprietary NVIDA graphic drivers, or non-free video codices, you can also download Easy Ubuntu. This independently produced Python script automates all these and other tasks for Ubuntu desktop users."
#!/usr/bin/python
import os
os.system("sudo apt-get install skype nvidia-glx gstreamer0.8-*")
That's one hell of a script! - pgm_01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Kubuntu is also excellent. I have the essentials already back up and running (Firefox with all extensions, Amarok 1.4, VLC, Totem and Nvidia drivers). I have yet to try to get my scanner/printer up and running, but Epson has very good drivers available. It also feels faster than the previous release.
- ketsugi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dapper Drake is Bobby Drake's little cousin. No mutant powers though.
- knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6download the PPC package.
voila. - zackery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I own a G3 iBook running Ubuntu since Hoary Hedgehog. I upgraded to Dapper from Breezy about a week ago. Still works flawlessly. Highly recommended.
- neko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You know... "Ubuntu" is an African word for "Humanity (to others)"?
"Humanity... it's what's for dinner" xD
Morbo agrees. - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5seriously though, i think you should try them all yourself and be the judge.
from my experience with suse, i find that yast is annoying, it comes on too many install disks, takes too long to install, and runs too slow generally. i never personally ran fedora, all my friends hate it, but there was the one new laptop at one installfest that would not run any other distro.
dapper and suse get compiz/xgl. if i got it working on one i'd leave it be. i bet dapper's faster. then you got gentoo, which is probably even faster, but an UNHOLY PAIN IN THE ASS to compile, especially if it doesnt work at the end of the install, as mine did. i actually liked netbsd, it installs with minimal drivers enabled, but it is quite nice and extremely fast.
even more food for thought is distros to learn to get a job. you could pay lots of money for redhat, or get centos for free, which is a copy of redhat in all but in name. then there's solaris. - b7j0c, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i put dapper on a powerbook g4. no problems at all.
there is some stuff missing on ppc, like nonfree flash etc, but this should not surprise anyone. - n00854180t, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Magadass, when I try to boot Ubuntu on my tablet (convertible Gateway M25 or something, Pent. M 1.5Ghz, using Intel mobo and graphics) it kernel panics and hangs. Haven't been able to find a fix for it, nothing works (tried noapic/nolapic/noprobe/noacpi and other suggestions found on Google). I'd really like to use it as a dev machine on Ubuntu, but for now it looks like I'm forced to use Windows :/
- waitingforjune, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I had the same problem with OpenOffice, and a few other packages didn't upgrade correctly for me. Just open up synaptic, and there is an OpenOffice metapackage (I'm pretty sure it's the latest one) the installs the suite for you. Personally, I use Banshee instead of Rhythmbox, because I think it looks closer to iTunes, which is what I was used to using on Windows.
- kiwiboyus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Acer Laptop instlled and connecting to my wifi w/wpa and no issues. Ran Automatix and I'm ready to go.
- mDot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Home built AMD XP system here that's been Dapper since flight 4, and a Dell inspiron 9300 Uber Notebook that works 100%. XGL and Compiz makes passers-by drool,
- Aelbric, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4For those having install problems, try disabling ACPI in the BIOS. Fixed a couple of troublesome machine installs for me. They run like a charm now.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5it installed fine on my laptop.
however, ive been getting mysterious hard locks. - trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I love OSx but I installed dapper when it was flight 4 just to try it out and now I use it more often than OSx. I still would not be comfortable without a dual boot but get the live CD and try it yourself, it can't hurt. And in my opinion for most things non graphics related Dapper is actually easier to use / learn than Tiger.
- dharm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"even more food for thought is distros to learn to get a job"
true, as i say usually about ubuntu in a frontpage article on digg ( i could copy and paste my same comments, and it would be valid for every ubuntu article, cause they just repeating the same thing basically)
if you want something thats easy to use, supports alot of stuff, works great, and is great alternative to windows, try ubuntu
but if you want to learn about linux, how it works, and its extremes, i would try something else...
ubuntu is just something i use, gentoo is something i like to work at improving and learning - jerrygofixit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5People like Ubuntu more than they like Apple/Mac/Ajax? Maybe? They get excited, like a kid with a new toy, deal with it, Ubuntu aint goin nowhere.
- cesclaveria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ waitingforjune
I would recommend Ubuntu in the place I work we have many different OS (Windows,OS X, Fedora, Red Hat, Suse, Debian and Ubuntu) The machines running ubuntu are the easiest to use (from the ones with a Linux) - antisthenex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, my laptop did the same thing. I think it's an issue of compatability with Centrino processors.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3How about airport support and sleeping? I just bought a 20" intel iMac. My G3 iBook is sitting around ready to be messed with!
- thesimplefix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2".....For example, while I had no trouble hooking Dapper into my NFS (Network File System) resources, the system balked at logging into AD (Active Directory) or NT Domain style drives and printers.
While the operating system eventually connected, it always, at first, gave me error messages about the user id not being recognized. I eventually found that if I just bulled through the error messages, I actually would be logged into the appropriate server and be able to access the network drives and printers...."
Digg me down if you wish, but wasn't Dapper Drake delayed 6 weeks to polish it up -- "make it enterprise ready?" How did this fall through the cracks? I love Ubuntu - I'm using 5.10 at home and I just finished burning the ISO for 6.06 just a short while ago, but a bug like this makes me look at it and say Ubuntu 6.06 is not enterprise ready. I tried deploying 5.10 at work a few months ago (just to run some simple monitoring [disk usage, network monitoring, etc...]), but was saddened with the same issue arose... some reading showed the issue was due to a bug in Gnome... with some work I got around it, but I finally decided to run Suse 10 and wait for this release.... well, *sadly* it looks like I'm waiting for the next release.. - nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Same issue here with Rhythmbox playing MP3s. I thought that was just me... do you have a link to a bug report?
- TopherT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I loved drake... Thats past tense. There was some problem (probably because it was the 64bit version) which kept me from running a dual boot system. I musta spent 5-6 hours trying to work it out, messing with command line interfaces, messing with the master boot record, etc. In the end I nearly hosed my system before settling for drake only. However, I found I missed the ability to install 3rd party software I wanted without hastle and switched back to windows, only to find myself dealing with normal windows hassles that come up with configuration. I've spent so much time by my computer for the last two days I'm gettind a distinct urge to go office space on it. Unless you're an old pro I wouldn't worry much at all what you're running as long as its doing the trick. Messing around simply isn't worth the time and killer headache.
That being said drake was amazing and I would recommend it to anyone who didn't have to switch to it. - jonshipman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Downloading now to try on the ole' Macbook. Wish me muchos lucks!
- asmodeus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm not getting any problem with playing MP3s in apps that use GStreamer. Did you install the gstreamer-ugly-plugins, or the Fluendo MP3 codec? I used gstreamer-ugly, which afaik makes use of libmad for MP3 playback.
- dharm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yum is horrible, when it comes uninstalling applications. It doesnt cross-check dependencies. If your program you want to remove uses z dependency, and 20 other applications need that z dependency aswell, and yum wont care and will remove that z dependency along with the application you wanted removed. Now your 20 programs are messed because they are missing z dependencies
- Chopper3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As an utterly-staunch OSX fan and user I have to say I was really impressed with DD running on an old 17" 1.33Ghz G4 Powerbook I tried it on. If I HAD to use a PC I think I'd go with DD without a second-thought.
- zeth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@ Pilgrim
You need to install the Windows drivers using ndiswrapper. Have a look at ndiswrapper.sf.net for installation instructions. - waitingforjune, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm also considering FC5 for my desktop. For those who have used any or all three, which is the best out of Dapper, FC5, and SuSE 10.1? I'd consider my self of intermediate skill level with Linux, as I've had experience using Ubuntu and I learned alot of Unix command line stuff through my college CS classes.
- schotty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh come on, take a joke ;D
I thought it was funny. It is one of those names that allows playful banter. - keithcu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The issues listed here well capture the state of Linux on the desktop. Dapper is better than ever, but as the comments show, not good enough yet. The good news is that its more than good enough for me, and I install and maintain the computers for my family. The bad news is that they are only a team of 20 engineers and yet they've got 10,000 bugs.
10,000 bugs at 2 days per bug = 20,000 days or 100 man-years. Hopefully lots of these bugs will be pushed upstream and fixed, but as you can see, it will take a while.
Dapper is better than ever, but the idea that anyone will be running it in 2011 when the support runs out is silly. Find me one desktop user who runs Linux from 2001. 2-3 years of support is plenty. If people like your software, they will be happy to upgrade and would appreciate the nudging.
Eft is supposed to be a quick release, but it will be more stable than Dapper because Linux gets more stable every day, especially as Gnome, FireFox, OpenOffice, GStreamer, etc. and the Linux kernel are all picking up steam and getting better at a faster rate.
If India or China were to throw 1000 people at a Linux distro, it would dwarf the efforts of all other distros. The Linux distro market is wide open. - dharm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3dist upgrade is a bad idea, for most distros, not just ubuntu...
- jonshipman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, it worked albeit stretched 1024x768. And the Airport card was recognized as an unknown WLAN device. Funny thing is that my bluetooth keyboard worked when I had to press enter to boot at the first screen, but at the desktop it didn't work. shrug
- jeffburg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2if i didn't have a mac i would be running ubuntu
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