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- Culyt, on 10/23/2008, -1/+20I think its work pointing out the he also *WROTE* his own opensource audio editor, Jokosher.
http://www.jokosher.org/
I think if you are the community manager of a major Linux distribution and have written your own opensource audio editor but still choose to do your audio editing on another platform due to problems with doing it under Linux, then your decision should probably be respected since you clearly know what the ***** your talking about.
And if writing your own software isn't considered trying hard enough then ***** off.
☢ - bradspangler, on 10/22/2008, -2/+20http://www.severedfifth.com/
- jeddyftb, on 10/23/2008, -1/+17People keep calling things "much anticipated" on digg. I always wonder who is doing all of this anticipating...
- ArthurSucks, on 10/22/2008, -2/+17I'll admit I'm a little hurt that the guy that works on Ubuntu didn't use Linux to make his CD. Ardour is more than capable of a DAW.
- skyshock1, on 10/22/2008, -0/+14I was considering switching to Fedora Core for my desktop, but ***** that in the FACE! Ubuntu for LYFE!!!
METAL!!! - inactive, on 10/22/2008, -2/+13I hope more artists take notice; and consider getting rid of all the strict copyrights that have become commonplace.
- tuxchick, on 10/22/2008, -1/+12You'd think that the Community Manager for Canonical would try a little harder-- Ardour + JACK + a low-latency kernel is a terrific professional-level combination, plus the many great audio softwares for Linux. Get it all in one giant bundle in 64 Studio, dyne:bolic, Planet CCRMA or -- hey, Ubuntu Studio! I wonder if he knows about that one :). Add high-quality audio hardware that is supported on Linux like M-Audio, Edirol, Presonus, etc and you have a hundred times more bang for your buck than with the hideously expensive commercialware.
At any rate it's a bold experiment, and I hope it succeeds. - abbathdoom, on 10/23/2008, -0/+10Yes, he could have released a nerdcore rap album about Linux.
- BillyB, on 10/23/2008, -1/+10Could this possibly be nerdier?
- TheSilentNumber, on 10/23/2008, -0/+8You all know what this means, don't you? Ubuntu is now the most METAL distro out there!
(Metal-- adj.) - cypresstwist, on 10/22/2008, -1/+9They sound like Fear Factory. I like their album.
- polyp2000, on 10/23/2008, -0/+8not a hardcore metal-head but dugg out of principle anyway!
N. - squirrelza, on 10/23/2008, -1/+8THE DRUMS SOUND HORRIBLE! :`(
- TheSilentNumber, on 10/23/2008, -1/+8You all know what this means, don't you? Ubuntu is now the most METAL distro out there!
(Metal-- adj.) - anylo, on 10/23/2008, -3/+9But guess what, the licence allows you make it better.
- abbathdoom, on 10/22/2008, -2/+8His song writing is pretty good, but its ruined for me by the terrible drum tones. Someone needs to get him DFH for christmas.
- kd420, on 10/22/2008, -4/+9Using a CC license really is more in tune to the spirit of music. It's supposed to be shared with others, and the community is supposed to support others. People think it's hippie-talk, but music has been and will continue to be free. Any attempt to limit, regulate or tax it as a commodity is doomed to failure.
- inactive, on 10/23/2008, -2/+6Mix that with Ubuntu Satanic Edition, and it's all good.
- perrigo, on 10/23/2008, -0/+4Post a link and we'll see about that cookie.
And it's relevant because it is a statement about what he does and is promoting. No he's not the first musician to do it but in a way it helps raise awareness about the open-source community. - anylo, on 10/23/2008, -0/+4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4 ?
- Swivelstick, on 10/23/2008, -0/+4thank you
- VirtualCtor, on 10/23/2008, -1/+4The album is definitely worth the download, even though the quality of the music is a bit inconsistent. Some of the songs struck me as being quite good (The Lake), while others I could just not get into (Edge of Design). There are quite a few good grooves on the album, though. The metal-style (cookie monster) vocals are fairly decent, but when he sings clean, he is off-key. The guitar solos are unfortunately lacking in both skill and feeling, and the drum sound is rather weak. The lyrics are predictable, and the recorded soundbites are more of a heavy-handed distraction than an actual enhancement to the music (Compare Lamb of God's "Ashes of the Wake" to "Enslaved by Pain"). If you're looking for something as polished as Opeth or Arch Enemy, then this is not it. However, even though this album lacks some maturity, it is still a fun bit of music, and I look forward to the next release.
- PhailQuail, on 10/23/2008, -1/+4Is this the same Jono Bacon who did LUGradio?
- randiddy, on 10/22/2008, -2/+5I think this is a great idea, there is so much unexplored territory here and the music industry needs to wake up to changes imposed by technology.
I do have a complaint however.. is it really "open" if you are not providing a tracked recording or parts? It's pretty difficult to remix or reuse the recording in any way otherwise. - inactive, on 10/23/2008, -1/+4If you put "CC" and "metal" in the same sentence, you better be referring to one and only one thing: Cannibal Corpse.
- tbredofsin, on 10/23/2008, -2/+5This music is crap. Uninspired riffing with horrible guitar tone, bad production, a laughable attempt at extreme vocals, and a blatantly drum machine-created rhythm track that just doesn't work.
I guess this is on the front page because it kinda sorta has to do with Linux and open source. Guess what, guys, all music is free on the internet, much of it intentionally. This is nothing new and it's definitely nothing interesting. Try some, I don't know, Between the Buried and Me, Gorod, any of a hundred metal bands that are better than this garbage. - ArthurSucks, on 10/23/2008, -0/+3Comparing Ardour to Gimp is not quite a fair comparison.
- someidiotinnj, on 10/23/2008, -0/+3It's not total crap but it's nothing anyone who listens to death metal, or "underground" metal in general hasn't heard before. Only thing I really can't stand is the dude "singing"
- pHreaksYcle, on 10/23/2008, -0/+3Little more excited than I was when I first switched, but I totally understand.
- inactive, on 10/23/2008, -0/+3Ardour is amazing. The realtime kernel makes everything perfect, even for my lowly Pentium 4, it runs buttery smooth, with no timing issues, no dropouts, nothing. its amazing.
but! i cant get VST plugins working - inactive, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2Where did you get that he didn't use FLOSS software? I use to read his blog in the planet and he was always mentioning some FLOSS software package that he was using. I forgot its name but it was really goodt.
- argylesocks, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2This dude wrote Jokosher? That program is amazing, I hope to see it by default in Ubuntu the way Garage Band is on OSX when it's ready.
- ethos101, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2That's the worst thing I've ever seen on youtube. ..besides that one about soft serve and 2 girls.
- skyshock1, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2Oh no, I've been using Linux exclusively for probably 3-4 years now. It's just that I like to check out all the different flavors as they all progress. Right now I'm on an Ubuntu kick, and after hearing this, I'll probably stay w/ them. :)
- tuxchick, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2You don't need a soundcard if you use a USB or Firewire analog-to-digital converter. (Like M-audio, edirol, presonus, etc.) And there are professional-level sound cards that work great on Linux, like RME's Hammerfall HDSP.
You're right that sometimes a person just wants to get the job done, I just wanted to point out that you can do professional music production on Linux, and don't need to spend too much money on mac and windows stuff. - kipmartin, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2music is good. impressive, in fact.
that said, there are issues. this album is just like linux--its a great product and good start, but its left lacking key features. the album needs less annoying drum tones and other things like song tracking to be a professionally executed product. ubuntu needs serious attention regarding setting up drivers, connecting to networks and some ISPs, games, etc.
i know i rant about linux, but thats because i want it to succeed, which it wont if its developed, tested, and used by geeks exclusively. it needs human factors testing, adherence to a more conservative SDLC, and above all, an impartial testing body.
once it does this, it will blow all the other contenders out of the water. if it doesnt, the linux development community will never understand the user communities wishes. - tetsuo29, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2Not my musical cup of tea at all. I find the whole "Cookie Monster" vocals thing a bit laughable these days. My favorite kinds of metal are those that feature real singing (stuff like Scheer and Tool).
I couldn't help but think that there's a parallel between this album and Linux- namely, both are very well produced but lack innovation. Now, I know that people are gonna jump all over that assertion. I know there are innovated things in Linux, but most of them are under the hood or involve innovative new scripting languages. From a desktop application user's perspective, Linux it doesn't seem innovative at all. From a desktop application user's perspective, Linux perpetually seems like an 'also ran'. It seems that from office suites to the media players and every other app in between Linux is filled with things that only came about because a proprietary software vendor was offering something for Mac or Windows and then the Linux community said- we can do that too. Fair enough, but as much as I love the philosophy of the whole open source/Linux movement, I also like getting innovative apps and I just don't see that this would be happening if Linux ruled the desktop world- unless maybe Linux started to be more like OS X and Windows in supporting and courting non-free apps to run along side the free stuff.
I find it interesting that this man has produced music that, like Linux, while it is technically well produced and executed, it also appears unoriginal and derivative of other existing products. - 0tis, on 10/23/2008, -1/+3FasterGun has a point. I understood that, but only because I've taken time to set all this up on Ubuntu, and believe me, it was a right old pain in the arse to do at times. Sometimes, it's still easier to work with Windows or Mac, unfortunately. But we're getting there.
I now have to redo it all, as I had problems and am now working from a fresh install (no problems yet! That's... a first.) - Roagie, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2I wouldn't call this 'metal'. It sounds more like 'simulated industrial machinery with man trapped inside'.
- BillyB, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2OK i'm checking it out. Yeah, not bad at all.
But come on - Ubuntu AND creative commons? NERD CITY. - johndavidjack, on 10/24/2008, -0/+2I was thinking the same exact thing.
- brettalton, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2Listen to the album. It's not bad at all.
http://www.severedfifth.com/releases/
Seed the torrent if you're really down. - salinaspaul, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2haven't heard the album yet (just downloaded it) but i think it's a really nifty idea... How cool that it's metal as well...
UbuntucA (heh heh heh) - BobCFC, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2Also within the Open Source world he is fairly well known, he gives a lot of keynote speeches at conferences and is a public face.
It helps in the situation of That Jono? or Name sounds familiar.
They wouldn't say it if he was some no name that worked for Canonical. - brettalton, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1Love the sample of Winston Churchill. What a great orator he was.
- tuxchick, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1Check out http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/audio/ for a lot of good information on audio hardware. There isn't a lot here on FOSS audio apps, but sorting out hardware and audio terminology is half the job. Dave Phillips is the reigning Linux audio guru and has great articles on Linux Journal and other sites.
- hfarena, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1Well, we did exactly the same with our album "The Kyoto Connection II"; you can download it for free from
http://www.thekyotoconnection.com
So far, 20.000 downloads in just a couple of months... Creative Commons works.... - TehClaw, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1Hey! I like metal! wuh!
- PJBovoNox, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1Doesn't work on Ubuntu ;)
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