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- hamobu, on 11/16/2008, -1/+20How cheap could an ARM notebook be? Perhaps under $100?
- SSIV, on 11/16/2008, -1/+20Next: Mobiles shipped with Ubuntu.
Pure kickass. - horsepie, on 11/17/2008, -0/+15Battery life on ARM powered notebooks will be ***** amazing.
- daveisfera, on 11/16/2008, -0/+15I'm just hoping that all of this improved boot time talk actually makes a real difference when Jaunty comes out.
- jdmulloy, on 11/16/2008, -0/+12I have a Nokia N800 which is based on an ARM11 chip and it has flash on it. So an ARM port of Flash on Linux already exists.
- sexybobo, on 11/17/2008, -0/+11the owner paid russians to fly him in to space i think he has some money he can loose.
- jdmulloy, on 11/16/2008, -0/+10ARM based Nokia Internet Tablets already have flash, Adobe has already made an ARM version.
- Cupantae, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7I like Ryan Paul. He's a good writer. Just thought I'd throw that out in the ether
- deadbaby, on 11/17/2008, -0/+6Don't be too sure about that... NVIDIA is in the ARM game already. They have a single chip ARM+GPU solution out now. It's supposedly capable of HD video playback /w accelerated h264 no less. It would be an excellent choice for an ARM based netbook.
- TheWindBlows, on 11/16/2008, -0/+5ARM port of Flash needed. Help with the Tamarin Project?
- Ademan, on 11/16/2008, -1/+6It's funny, even on an open source operating system that can be run on almost anything under the sun, I feel tied to x86... w32codecs, flash, nvidia drivers, wine, and probably plenty more that escapes my mind at the moment. (although I suppose it's unlikely a cheap ARM netbook would have an nvidia card in it, being able to watch youtube would be... nice)
- chrisvc86, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5Does this mean I can get Ubuntu on my G1?
- nobeastsofierce, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5vote Ryan Paul?
- Kaikimi, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5holy hell, arm port. needs nds port NOW.
- weizbox, on 11/16/2008, -1/+6You can already have improved boot time now if you want, there's a lot of ways to do it (Google it). It's not like Ubuntu is the one developing these features to begin with, so you don't need to wait on account of them :)
- JQP123, on 11/17/2008, -0/+4Personal opinion: This has more potential as a money maker than the desktop/server market.
Contrary to popular opinion here, the battle for the full featured desktop is over and has been for quite some time. Use whatever you like but it's time to get over it and move on.
The best opportunity for "Linux on the desktop" is a paradigm shift from full featured computing to network appliances. With a network appliance, browsing is the focus and the application set is rather fixed. The actual underlying OS is not really very prominent or significant --- as long as it "just works" out of the box. - inactive, on 11/17/2008, -1/+4Link? There are a lot of ***** ways of doing it that doesn't provide the desire results. Why don't you link to that method that ubuntu isn't developing?
- weizbox, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3Is Ubuntu pulling resources from the desktop/server areas to do this.. or is this expansion (more net loss) for Canonical?
- daengbo, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3While the open-source versions don't play everything, Gnash DOES play YouTube and comes in whatever arch you're using, practically, ARM included.
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/arm/gnash-opengl/ ... - daengbo, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3Debian has been made to run on the G1. Since Ubuntu pretty much just imports Debian Unstable every six months and adds some spit and polish, I would guess that you could get Ubuntu to run on the G1.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/10/debian-gets-por ... - weizbox, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2You technically could get any distro that supports arm running on the G1 without too much work, assuming you haven't gotten the RC30 update yet ;)
- BrainInAJar, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2not real UNIX though, OSX is only certified as UNIX on x86...
It's just a cheap knockoff UNIX, like linux is
( http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/ ) - jamesmcm, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2For those who don't understand why you should use Free Software please read:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fsfs/rms-essays.pdf
Or for a shorter read:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html - mikedoth, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2Does this mean i'll get a LXDE version of Ubuntu?
- hartley, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2and practically every other handheld for the past 10-15 years.
still curious what type of speeds the arm with need.
the ds only has one 67mhz arm, and one 33mhz.
my very old treo 650 has an 312mhz xscale chip. - DearSergio, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2" The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon. "
- julieBi, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1I saw 8.10, it's amazing, if you want to learn about it some more, or help other people with there problems this is your spot.
http://www.fixya.com/support/p926113-canonical_ubu ... - daveisfera, on 11/18/2008, -0/+1I agree 100%, but the problem is that the average computer user doesn't want to have to "Google something, figure out how to do it, and then decide if it's worthwhile".
Heck, I know that it would be fun/interesting to do something like that, but I just don't have the time to mess with stuff like that right now and I want it to "just work". I mean isn't that one of the key elements (if not THE key element) of Linux getting broad appeal/acceptance? - NiyazK, on 02/25/2009, -0/+1nice article.... keep posting btw take some time to checkout Mobile Section i found @ http://techb.net/category/mobiles/
- JQP123, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1@weizbox
You (and Canonical) need to think a little more outside the box.
Canonical's primary focus has always been on the desktop and the end user. But ease of use and paying for support aren't exactly complimentary concepts. I doubt it will ever be all that profitable.
In the net appliance market, there is an opportunity for Canonical to shift their customer focus more toward the hardware manufacturers. These folks have money and just might be willing to spend some of it to have Canonical roll them a custom version just for their hardware ... to insure that it "just works" right out of the box. And they just might pay them to provide backup support for those odd cases where it doesn't "just work".
- rocke86, on 11/17/2008, -1/+2Is he related to Ron and Rand Paul, now that would be awesome.
- tk0680, on 11/17/2008, -1/+2Good, because it's practically useless with the AAO due to the wireless drivers situation.
- weizbox, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1'Personal opinion: This has more potential as a money maker than the desktop/server market.'
How so? I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, but is it based on anything? Canonical's income right now is from support, which most likely would be big on the server end, and possibly for desktops for business... but most people with netbooks would probably opt-out of any sort of support... especially if the OS on it 'Just Works'.
'Contrary to popular opinion here, the battle for the full featured desktop is over and has been for quite some time. '
If it was a Battle, who won?
'The actual underlying OS is not really very prominent or significant --- as long as it "just works" out of the box.'
Well, since we're still not at that 'Just Works' point.. I guess there still needs some work to be done... so it would be hard to say this 'battle', as you call it, is over. - Ademan, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1Gnash is great, but it's still a work in progress, just like I love Wine but I always recommend it with the caveat that it's imperfect.
- ravedigger, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1I've been running Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid on my Asus EEE 900A with no problems. Needed to run the /home folder onto an SD card due to the limitations of the built in 4gb SSD. It needed lots of tweaks to get hotkeys and wireless working, but the end result is a ridiculously small computer that runs Ubuntu like a champ. I could have gone with an EEE PC specific Ubuntu release, but they are all based off of 8.04 as far as I know.
- weizbox, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1No ones doubting Shuttleworth is loaded and could support multiple companies as large as Canonical... but as he states in his blog, the aim has been towards profitability, not a for Canonical to be a money pit. He wants something that is self-sustaining to be a model for others on how to many money with open source.
- BrainInAJar, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1JavaFX.
- weizbox, on 11/17/2008, -1/+1rpgmaker... because depending on what the users needs are, they may go about it in different ways. One quick way that can easily shave a few seconds off boot is to disable dhcp, or have it run later during boot up. DHCP alone can take up to 5 seconds or more sometimes, so thats a huge boot without even doing any tweaking. Obviously kernel optimization is another thing to look into.
I was planning on finding some good links on the Ubuntu forums for ya... but they seem to be down at the moment :/
http://www.ubuntuforums.org = Service Temporarily Unavailable
Should be back up soon tho...
'Why don't you link to that method that Ubuntu isn't developing'
Um... that's pretty much any method you can find online atm :) Got a link to any methods Ubuntu is specificity developing? I've heard people saying they want it, and that boot up times will be faster in JJ, but I'm just wondering if that's due to something they are working on, or if it's based on updates packages, etc. - FunyJokes, on 11/17/2008, -1/+1flash port???
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http://funyjokes.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/funy-jok ... - ohreilly, on 11/17/2008, -0/+0I think I'll stick with my Symbian powered Nokia phones.
proven reliablity ftw. - mysn239, on 11/17/2008, -5/+3I still need help on Ubuntu wireless connection!
- chipxsd, on 11/17/2008, -3/+0This machine would be a great candidate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Foleo
- amfantasy, on 11/17/2008, -6/+3I hate saying this as a Linux user, but moonlight/silver light looks better and better everyday. I know Microsoft will screw OS X and Linux users in the end, but moonlight/silverlight is everything that flash isn't. The only solution to this problem is the death of Adobe Flash
- CatsAreGods, on 11/17/2008, -5/+2Does this mean I can put Linux on an iPhone...wait, it already runs Unix, never mind...
- MrViklund, on 11/17/2008, -8/+4Yet another platform infested...
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