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- tgunner, on 10/24/2007, -0/+32Thank you. The n00bs are grateful even if they don't show it. "If you've done something right, people won't know that you've done anything at all."
- Gman1223, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
- badassninja, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24If you have these questions, you could always help out and write some code. Ubuntu is about giving to others. They have already given so much and try as hard as they can, the lest you could do is help or at lest be grateful for what you have and not bitch about it.
- badassninja, on 10/10/2007, -8/+23Hurray! Whenever I F' up X I always have to reinstall because, shot, I don't know how to fix it from the command line. So now when I F' things up, I am saved.
- thecheatah, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12I hope they shot stuff at it. Live ammo is the only way to test if something is truly bullet proof or not.
- livevil, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Email your display manufacturers to be more friendly with Linux.
- chrono13, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12You reinstalled after breaking X? Why?
Backing up Xorg before you change it is simple, and prudent. Printing out, or writing down "what to do if you mess up X" is also pretty simple; it is a single line command.
But you're lack of foresight does make the point - this is needed for those who jump into the command line to hand-configure a sensitive system file without bothering to back it up or reading what the 'fix' command is. - Stonekeeper, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Who's hacked Schestowitz's account? You used to be PRO linux, not ANTI Ubuntu...
- bruenig, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Reinstall because of a failed attempt at upgrading your video driver, are you serious? There is no need to reinstall because of that, just fix it.
- superspud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Just because you screwed X up with a new video driver, doesn't mean you should have re-installed the entire operating system. In my experience, pretty much everything problem can be solved by posting on a forum and copying and pasting their text into a command line.
- superm1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9RTFA. His code isn't committed yet.
- JiggNJive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9At last... or wait a minute; if the hardware manufacturers would provide proper drivers, this wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
- Tenoq, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8No way. The only way they'll run out of steam is if people stop complaining about bits that don't work. Like that will ever happen. ;-)
- fkuall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7i got my dual screens working with all the resolution modes that are avaliable on my windows installation. I didn't even have to restart X, i just used an app called Envy, it did everything for me, which is just the way i like it
- leszek, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7This method is the worse way to install the nvidia driver !!!
It will break X next time a kernel update is provided ... - jonesin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7This is great, but I'm hoping there's also some explanations within the application that explain all this. You know, for the noobs. If I hadn't seen this article, for example, how would I know what "Add Model" refers to? There doesn't seem to be any documentation within the app itself.
- fires, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I use Ubuntu, bet let's be real here. The developers who work fulltime on ubuntu get paid by Canonical. They don't just do it out of the love of their hearts (which I'm sure they have), but because it's their jobs.
The people who give so much, is really the Debian community, who do everything for free and on which Ubuntu is based.
Then also, a lot of the stuff we see being previewed on digg, for example the bulletproof-x in this article, has *nothing* to do with ubuntu! It's a different community of developers and ubuntu is only able to use their code, since it's released with a FLOSS license. - DroidBlender, on 09/18/2008, -2/+5I already lost count to how many times I've had to reconfigure X. But at least I learned something new about my hardware configuration each time I reconfigured. This ought to be a refreshing change. However, I hope the Ubuntu devs won't tout this feature alone as the killer app for 7.10. IMHO they could release a new version every 8-9 months, but at least deliver more features and improvements. I'm sort of worried that at a certain point in the future they'll run out of steam.
- Tsen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5And Windows will always catch viruses. STFU.
- Dracura, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I can't understand why people complain when Ubuntu becomes easier to use for casual users or those who just switched over. If Ubuntu was kept as a barebones, CLI-only type distro, then you lose a hell of a lot of potential users. That's why Windows has such a huge market share, because their crap is usable by a monkey.
- antdude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4That is what most Windows users do. :P
- fires, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3There are a lot of stuff on digg that is incomprehensible to the uninitiated. Educate yourself :-D
- Surreal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Where do I buy then, oh great all knowing Giga?
- piiscool, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1More like, if you aren't willing to spend the time to learn how linux works why bother?
- fires, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The problem is that documentation has to be provided/donated/contributed by someone, just like the code. Most people enjoy writing code and will give it away for free, but that doesn't apply to writing documentation. :P
- Greywhind, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, in my opinion, it's not "knowing how UNIX works," it's more that Linux is for people who are willing to do a little searching and learning (which, unfortunately, people are often too lazy to do) to achieve the benefits of the OS.
I don't claim to be a Linux expert, and I knew almost nothing about Bash before installing Linux. Yet I learned it as I went along, only looking up what I needed at the time, and I was able to rapidly pick up the necessary knowledge.
What people should realize about Linux is that it may have a lot of differences from their previous OS, but that nobody needs to know everything about it when they first start - it's something you can learn over time. - Stonekeeper, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2This is very welcome. On my boss's widescreen tablet pc, I had to setup a manual xrandr call to get the res right. Intel chipset. And no, resolution915 didn't work. Hopefully, this sorts out that, and his (and my) external monitor issue!
- drakethegreat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I think its time to move back to windows. I may be an elitist but really Linux is meant for people who actually know how UNIX works even if its not technically that ;-)
- leszek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The Restricted drivers manager is the only method you should be using if you don't want to have problems.
more information on the ubuntu wiki:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5PCLinuxOS had a really nice frontend for display card configuration and I still ended up having to do command line configuration to get all the features to work right, especially 3D stuff like Beryl. I also very easily hosed my system and had to reinstall because of a failed attempt at upgrading my video driver. I've had issues with Windows before, but I've never had to reinstall the OS simply because of a failed video driver installation.
Linux is cool and I really liked my three-month excursion into PCLinuxOS, but I eventually moved back to Windows and will be here for a while. - fires, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I don't think you should expect users of an OS to configure files manually to get their displays working. It's great to have that option as a power user, but not all computer users are power users.
- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes, and many journalists think that Ubuntu==Linux and when they need to edit xorg conf files they say that Linux is hard.
- Doomhammer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Someone in the article made a comment about Ubuntu not supporting USB keyboards (or, at least GRUB not supporting them) - this isn't GRUB or Ubuntu's fault, that's an option you need to set in your BIOS...
- powered76, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Somebody needs to get a life.
- rageguy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2pwned
- srg13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1In my opinion, Elitists like you are just as annoying as Windows lovers.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1really? to get the resolution of my laptop in Ubuntu (when i ran it), all i had to do was edit my xorg.conf, add about 9 characters to it, save it and restart X. Also, at least when i use Linux, it drops me to some decent resolution by default. Windows doesn't even do that sometimes until you install your gfx driver.
- krunchyfrog, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Here's what's making people change: support.
People buy themselves new hardware such as new cameras, new printers, new scanners, and such. The drivers provided is only for X or Y latest OS, and their current OS isn't supported. For example, try buying a digital camera and install it on that still miraculously working Windows 95 computer. No USB support unless you installed the service pack C, no drivers are available from the builder, and such. So, when it's time to invest on a new OS, and a new computer to run that new OS, Linux becomes a nice choice. - sabach, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Looks like you got your answer.
- outlaw686, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I for one welcome our new bulletproof overlords
- fjc8, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1This wouldn't be very necessary if:
- there was a way to configure resolutions and input settings without changing the configuration file
- the driver was automatically reselected after hardware changes
The first is already the case with well-written drivers and recent versions of Xorg. The second is trivial to implement. - jabberwocky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1That what live cds like knoppix are for and learn always backup up a config file before editing. eg
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/Xorg.last_working_20070830_00X
if that is too much for you:
tar -zcvf etc_last_working_20070830_00X.tar.gz /etc
to backup all the system config files - morphie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Could please explain this to my mother within 20 minutes?
- Surreal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1While you may be right, that ubuntu (or linux distros in general) are still too hard to use for everyone, regardless the whole reason many people are here using ubuntu is because they made it easier for linux newbies to interact and try out linux. The switch has begun... basically the way this is going is your point will be moot sooner than later.
- SteveMax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2"sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop/start"
Well, that's quite distro-specific too ;) - fires, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I don't think you should expect users of an OS to configure files manually to get their displays working. It's great to have that option as a power user, but not all computer users are power users.
- Surreal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Ummm, c'mon now, did you just say windows 3.1? The operating system that needs drivers everytime you plug in a new serial or ps2 mouse? Windows 3.1 did not have this feature. I'm glad you just like to make stuff up though, I mean, all that does is allow everyone else to ban your ass.
- Surreal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Same here, on my 700m widescreen laptop, simple command line fix was all it needed.
- Surreal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Hahahaha! Wow, why are people digging you down!? So lame.
- Surreal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Simonn why do you have to be such a bigot?
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