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- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -5/+80I have a problem with Linux users who boycott Ubuntu, Sure, it's not the most nerdy distro of Linux like Gentoo and so on, but Linux users should be patting the backs of the Ubuntu developers for making this really good distro, after all, it's going to be distro's like Ubuntu which bring more companies over to Linux.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+51Commercial vendor? Where? Ubuntu Studio will be as free as Ubuntu desktop.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44This should mean a low-latency-enabled kernel per default. Good stuff.
- raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -17/+53I'm not a fan of Ubuntu by any means. I'm only digging this for the following:
1) I like the screenshots.
2) A commercial Linux vendor is finally going after Apple's target audience.
Someone once said that Ubuntu tends to draw alot of Mac users, more so than other distros, for various reasons (the close-knit village feeling, the rambunctious enthusiasm, the brand marketing).
I guess now they have the biggest reason yet to jump on the Ubuntu bandwagon. - roxics, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24My biggest problem with Linux is that I haven't been able to find a really good solid video editing application that is capable of competing with Vegas or Final Cut Pro. Build me something like Vegas for Ubuntu and I'll use it.
I'm not so sure there really needs to be a separate distro just for media. Plenty of distros out there as it is. Build us more killer media applications so we can switch, that's what's really missing. - pufuwozu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/MetapackagesBreakdown
You'll only need to install those packages. - ifoundgodot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20@skyshock- The point of Ubuntu Studio as well as Linux in general is that it has free software to use instead of those big names. Many of these programs are as good, if not better than their Windows/MacOSX counterparts. A lot of them however, are still not quite as good, but thats why the Open Source world is great- they will eventually get there. Of course, this means that maybe professional studios won't pick up Ubuntu Studio, but really, I think the main demographic for it will be enthusiasts- people who want to produce professionally/semi-professionally but don't have the money for such software as Final Cut Pro, Photoshop, and ProTools.
I know I'll be using it for my own sequencing and recording- I don't have the money to afford software like ProTools and Cubase, so this is perfect for me. - shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17wrap it up in a package i can install on regular ubuntu and i'd use it....
- regeya, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17@skyshock21:
On an unrelated note, I have it on good authority that Microsoft Office will never catch on until Word gets better WordPerfect import/export filters, and Excel gets better Lotus 1-2-3 import/export filters. - Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Okay, now this rocks for sure. Right now I'm running Ableton and Adobe Audition as far as my audio work goes, and I've been tempted to get a macbook just so I could run Logic Pro.
Ubuntu Studio looks like it could easily replace all that... For free. Very cool. Exciting too. - AddictedToMusic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Everything we do goes into the Ubuntu repos. Nothings separate but having its own disk to install and some art.
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15> "Someone once said that Ubuntu tends to draw alot of Mac users"
If the theme in the screenshot reflects on the current/future build, then it's worth emphasising that Apple has just announced a switch to glossy black in their GUI's (Cocoa with Brush Meta/Aqua replaced?). - jasmin888, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Does it run Pro Tools? Photoshop? Final Cut Pro?"
At some point those didn't run on windows either (don't know about protools, but I sure rember the fuss when photoshop for windows came out).
Basically that comment is pretty irrelevant to the situation at hand. If ubuntu does the job running multimedia apps well, and the user base is there - any relevant app will eventually run on linux. - pixelfox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Ok, please, can a Linux person answer me this- why the hell do you need to make a new flavor of Ubuntu every time you want it to do something else? I use Blender at school on Ubuntu in an all-Ubuntu lab, but other people are running xubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu... why do you need so many different distros? How about instead of making a gazillion variations, package them *together*. OS X is a one size fits all OS, and Ubuntu is more closely running after them then they are Windows. Why not just try and create a iLife on linux alternative and package it with Ubuntu?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Cinelerra anyone?"
I've never been able to any serious editing on Cinelerra. The interface seems clunky but I haven't tried it in a while, maybe that's changed. I'm still using Vegas Video on my token Winders box and Audition for audio work.
When there's a really good Linux alternative to Vegas, I'll be thrilled to switch over. I'm hoping Adobe would port Premiere Pro and the rest of their product line. They could produce a turn-key system package that would be killer.
MainConept has a version of MainActor for Linux but it's just a standard A/B editor. - AddictedToMusic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I really believe in self-education but Ill let clue you in. ;)
Ubuntu - Uses Gnome for its desktop environment.
kubuntu - Uses KDE for its desktop environment.
The differences between these 2 is huge. Some say like a different OS.
Xubuntu - Uses XFCE for its desktop environment.
This Is close to Gnome but not quite. XFCE is alot lighter on resources and therefore aimed at older PCs who struggle with Gnome or KDE.
Edubuntu - Uses Gnome but has a completely different aim than a desktop. Packages are much different. The UI is more kid friendly. And so on.
Ubuntu Studio - Uses Gnome. We also have all the desktop apps striped out. This is meant for a dedicated media creation machine. On install it will give you a choice (remember that word. its important) of what you want to install.
Also _all_ of our work goes into the Ubuntu repos. So no matter what flavor of Ubuntu you run you can easily grab our suite of applications.
As for a separate disk? We wanted one. Simple. Thats what its about. "Choice." (theres that word again) Use it or dont. That simple. ;)
In the end, keep a eye on http://ubuntustudio.org/ for more info. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Cinelerra anyone? It's FOSS and very powerful.
"At the National Association of Broadcasters' 2004 Electronic Media Show, Cinelerra was awarded Bob Turner's "MAKING THE CUT" award. The award is given to "the best and most exciting postproduction products seen at the convention" [1]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra - thtroyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Anyone know what Gnome theme it is running?
I've been running Human-Orange for several months now and it's about time for a change. - AddictedToMusic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"And this is why ubuntu appeals to the majority of you cheerleaders.."
LOL!^^
What always gets me is the retarded infighting amongst distro users. Use what works for you. Theres no need to hate another distro. Distros are 90% the same thing. Same apps, almost the same way of doing things. Theres just no need for the haters.
Anyone that actually want to know answers to their assumptions hop on IRC #ubuntustudio on Freenode. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Because Linux (and free open source software in general) is about having freedom of choice and many options and not about being bound to an authoritarian corporate monoculture.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"Better? Hah. I think you'd be hard-pressed to even make an argument that they're as good."
Seriously. There's absolutely no equivalent for Pro Tools or Photoshop on Linux right now. Nothing even close. Audacity? Gimp? Pfftt.. don't make me laugh.
I understand studios that do 3D Pixar-ish movies use custom-rolled applications under Linux but those aren't available to the public. - regeya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yeah, but it was a response to a comment claiming that Ubuntu Studio will rock because, well, the eyecandy they've made so far looks pretty. This is what outsiders see when they see Ubuntu fanboys: Oh yeah, GNOME rocks and so does Ubuntu because at least it's not ugly.
A good, unobtrusive, intuitive interface is very important, yes, but as the old saying goes, beauty is only skin deep.
I'm an Ubuntu user...a Kubuntu user, actually. Ubuntu has done a great job of pushing the state-of-the-Linux-art forward, and GNOME has as well, but there are just too many things either missing, and when anyone is openly critical, even when it's meant to be constructive criticism, one is too often exposed to spleen-venting, lengthy diatribes, and/or admonitions to do better yourself if you don't like what they've done. We're way past the point where the childish tantrums about "we're doing this for free, so stfu until you make something better" was acceptable. If you can't keep your emotions off your sleeve, kindly keep your software to yourself; you're doing no one any favors if you pack up and take your toys home as soon as a dimwitted 13-year-old rants and raves about the shortcomings of your software.
Whoops! Got a bit off topic there! Sorry 'bout that. Back to the regularly scheduled program...
So yeah...even as a (K)ubuntu user I can understand some reasons why the Ubuntu camp tends to be hated: It's a group of people who aren't learning anything about their distribution, and instead sit in slackjawed amazement that they can make their desktop look nearly as gawdy as OS X or Vista. Pity they'll never learn that they're using a top-notch Linux distribution. :-( - krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -0/+4the big issue is a lot of kernel mods. unlike other sub distros based on different WMs or stupidities like ubuntu christian edition, or edubuntu, this has substantial kernel differences.
- jeriqo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Creative not, productive yes.
- crazybrit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6What? I think you fail at using sarcasm.
- AddictedToMusic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8That would be cool. However, people dont _need_ Adobe, Sony or DidgiDesign/AVID to be creative. ;)
- xxNIRVANAxx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I want it only for the black theme!
- tallNT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I would consider switching to Ubuntu- If they had something that's as good as Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop CS3. Maybe a Ubuntu Studio for Photographers.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4well, please post a link if anyone ever creates a website explaining the features of the audio recording. I'm so sick of these wikis, and standards which say your product description must be written in the most boring and unintuitive manner known to man. See our great new screenshots in article III, subsection V., by recompiling the anushair module, as described by addendum 37: particle reflux in barren-womb subsystems and their accompanying redux marmaduke. .. Is this the announcement of a new product, or the ***** users manual for administering methodone? *****.
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Apt-Get Install *all-software-installed-by-default-in-Ubuntu-studio*
Just install some software. No need for a whole new distribution. Would work in Debian, Mandriva and possibly Linspire, too. - Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If this has some decent plugins to rival my VST stuff then I'd happily switch straight away. Hopefully it will support a lot of the niche hardware too, such as a PODxt and M-Audio soundcards.
- Jolva, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11I don't think you're going to be moving a lot of "graphics professionals" to Ubuntu (or any distro of Linux) any time soon. If only Adobe would port their creative suite, then we could talk.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3sorry, replace "product" with "project", then flame the ***** out of me./
I wouldn't be so bitter if I didn't love linux so much. - TwimA, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Professionals need professional tools, hobbyists need hobbyists tools. These rarely meet.
As someone already pointed out, there are already industry standards almost everywhere, AVID, ProTools, Final Cut Pro, Photoshop (and the whole CreativeSuite package) etc.
To cater to a professional audience you need to offer something more than these can, and in most cases, price will not be a selling point.
I know i now sound as some troll trying to push down hobbyists work, that's not what i want to do. It is great i think that new options come out and give people the ability to choose. But for all the linux fanboys out there saying that linux is now ready for professional work due to such packages, you need a reality check :) - AddictedToMusic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ahh... I see. Well currently we have DSSI and LADSPA plugins which are nowhere near the VSTs. :(
Things are early. You have to like linux to use it for production atm. If people expect something totally turn-key they'll be disappointed. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ thtroyer
It's a GTK2 theme called Neutronium-High that you can get from www.gnome-look.org
I think it looks... OK. Certain aspects of it don't carry over well (certain text fields, GAIM names, etc..) - SpeKopuZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm not a fan of Ubuntu, but i like Linux, and this will be a great advance in that topic (media-audio-movies) that Linux world needed.
Awesome Project - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If, if ... keep bugging Adobe to release a Linux version and stop whining around.
- AddictedToMusic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes. Read through here or go to http://ubuntustudio.org/ for more info. Our collection of apps arent tied to what *buntu you use.
- ifoundgodot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Will it be easy to enable the low latency kernel for those who are doing audio?
- tripple-breve, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If Linux adoption grows and people make enough noise at Adobe, they'll port their ***** to Linux.
- tobsterius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ugh. OK. Look, I know a lot of you like to justify OSS alternatives for pro apps and thats fine. Hell, I'm all for open source. But in regards to your 3DS Max comment, I'm going to have to call bull on it. It is virtually impossible for one app cut modeling down from DAYS to hours. You wanna compare hours? Fine, Blender might cut your modeling time down from 4 hours to 2 hours, but come on, days to hours? I find that hard to believe. I've used Max daily. I know people who use Max daily. Nothing is taking longer to do because Max was used over blender. something tells me you need to spend the amount of time learning the short cuts and timesavers that you found in blender and also search for them in Max.
You're preaching just a wee bit too much... - AddictedToMusic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The VST stuff it tricky. Its possible to do with WINE and Ardour but WINE really isnt the best solution. As far as niche hardware support, M-Audio and RME have pretty good linux support.
We are not going after OSX/Apple in any way. Its not a goal. Its simple to showcase what linux currently offers and to make a single disk install. We are not a derivative, More a flavor. Made for people that want to install this on dedicated machines without all the desktop fluff. - jeriqo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3People just don't ***** care.
They want the job done, and are ready to pay thousands of dollars for that. - AddictedToMusic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"Easy? Nooo. It's Linux after all ;)
Now digg me down!"
Im sure your joking. ;)
"sudo apt-get linux-lowlatency"
Done. - ArthurSucks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I can add some insight to sound.
Ardour is a powerful pro-level DAW - http://ardour.org/
Hydrogen is the most realistic drum machine I've ever heard - http://www.hydrogen-music.org/
ReZound has everything that I loved about SoundForge, plus some - http://rezound.sourceforge.net/
LMMS is a growing (still not stable, but VERY usable) synth program to compete with FruityLoops - http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
I've switched my sound setup to Linux, and I've had NO reason to go back. - kavaliro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I see a lot of comments about Final Cut Pro, Vegas, etc. Cinelerra _does_ fill that bill. You may not like the interface, you might be missing some plug-ins you use often, and you might not understand the workflow because you're used to something else, but cinelerra is pro-level, or pretty close to it.
The same arguments could be made for other areas:
Photoshop: GIMP would be there with just a few (albeit crucial) enhancements, such as pantone and/or CMYK. But between Xara LX and GIMP, you can safely be rid of Photoshop. There may be features you'll miss, but you _can_ get the job done.
3D Studio Max: Blender3D takes a few weeks just to understand the interface. The workflow is totally different from any commercial package out there. Having said that, those are the only reasons not to use it. Once you do get a grip on the interface, Blender is extremely advanced. A model that would have taken me days to produce in Max only takes a few hours in Blender. Likely the main reason Blender isn't used more pro studios (it is used at least _some_) is that learning to use a new 3D package is a huge time investment, nearly comparable to learning a second language, so most pros only ever learn one.
Indesign: Scribus is very capable. I've been following the development of Scribus for quite a while. As I see it, Scribus needs bleeds, which are in the cvs version now, so will be in the stable version soon. It produces a more advanced pdf than Adobe does. It's way, way, way better than Quark. It's not as good as InDesign. So one might say there's better software out there, but there's no denying that Scribus is in the "Pro" range.
I won't touch sound, I know little about it, except to say the tools are there and I know of _many_ studios that use them. If studios are using them, success!
Most professional web developers scorn WYSIWYG suites like Dreamweaver, so what we have is just fine for the pro, and NVU is more than capable for anyone who needs the GUI.
The big, gaping hole in multimedia on Linux is none of the things mentioned so far. So what is the hole? Flash and Director. Multimedia just isn't multimedia without them. There's simply no replacement for them. AFAIK, there's not even a project on Sourceforge that would fit the bill, that lives. There's just nothing. If you want something to complain about, complain about that. - sanguinemoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Tonycubed,
For me, the problem isn't the distro itself, but the fanboyism of many of its users. The distro itself isn't all that bad, which is why about 5 minutes ago, I installed it to dual boot with *BSD....
I can see another reason purists might not like Ubuntu. It includes "non-free" software. For instance, the Nvidia driver was already installed, which surprised me a bit. For those users, there are "more free" distros like Fedora or gNewSense (which might not be a bad idea for others besides purists, it can be a good way to install something very basic and add only what you need?) - October, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2An awful lot of audio hardware is supported! I run an M-Audio Delta 44 and an M-Audio Midisport 4x4 and both work perfectly. I also had an Edirol PCR-M50 USB keyboard controller that was "plug and play" via USB. VST/i are a little tricky to get working but I really don't bother with them much. The linux native plugins do a fine job and there are an awful lot of them too. Google "LADSPA"
- steal_apps01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If I can through my 12Gb of music, 600Mb of Photos and 40Gb of video's on a hard drive and install this Ubuntu Studio and it all works out of the box, i'm there.
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