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Ubuntu: Next Release Codenamed Gutsy Gibbon

lists.ubuntu.com — "Folks, allow me to introduce the Gutsy Gibbon, who will be succeeding the Feisty Fawn as the focus of our development love in a few short weeks, for release in October 2007." - Shuttleworth

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  • schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -29/+13No (GIBBON) GUTS, no glory! GNU/Linux for the win.
    • andyrobo60, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20For more info on gibbons
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbon
    • Frost9999, on 10/12/2007, -33/+3I find the names meaningless. A version number or build date would be more useful for me.
    • Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -4/+39Why get caught up in names?

      It's the stuff in the changelog that matters.
    • ihate2regist, on 10/12/2007, -8/+50Giggity Goo?
    • oxdeltaxo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21HACK THE GIBBON!!!!
    • rad67, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29@frost9999:

      It has a version-number AND a build-date.

      Breezy Badger: 5.10 (october of 2005)
      Dapper Drake: 6.06 (june of 2006)
      Edgy Eft: 6.10 (october of 2006)
      Feist Fawn: 7.04 (april of 2007)
      Gutsy Gibbon: 7.10 (october of 2007)

      See the trend here?
    • chubbstar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25no... wheres "C"?
    • starsky51, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20cheeky cu**.. sorry.
    • newslang, on 10/12/2007, -13/+15@rad67

      What's next...Horny Hamster?

      I don't like the code names or the way they do the version numbers, by release date rather than changes they make to the OS...but I still use ubuntu.
    • bobothn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18@chubbstar
      the first 2 didn't go in alphabetical order you had Hoary Hedgehog 5.04 then breezy badger i am willing you bet they will skip h and go to i just so there are not 2 h names

      @newslang
      man i feel stupid i never noticed that 7.04 =4th month in 07
    • Iandefor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"@chubbstar
      the first 2 didn't go in alphabetical order you had Hoary Hedgehog 5.04 then breezy badger i am willing you bet they will skip h and go to i just so there are not 2 h names"

      The first 3, actually.

      Warty Warthog -> Hoary Hedgehod -> Breezy Badger.
    • ubunturd, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2Gutsy Gibbon? That name is almost as retarded as the distro itself. ***** the ubuntu hype.
    • cntrxfrstrm, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2Anyone with the "guts" to actually use that garbage should be rewarded
    • Ademan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I kinda wanted Giant Gorilla...
    • fluxion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@rad67

      it's gonna suck when they get to X

      and what about V? Vivacious Vulture?
  • caliform, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24I think it's an interesting name - at least I prefer it to Feisty, as 'Gutsy' doesn't give me all sorts of dubious images when I am Google Imaging the name of the distro :). Glossy Gnu would have been fun too, though.
  • dasunst3r, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13I wanted "Giggly Gopher": http://www.beigebinary.com/what-if-linux-distros-were-women
  • ajgv, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5heh.... gibbons....
  • halik, on 10/12/2007, -53/+10I guess that goes in line with the idiotic naming scheme they've chosen.... and you guys wonder why regular people can't take linux seriously. Fiesty Fawn? Gutsy Gibbon? WTF
    • rappermas, on 10/12/2007, -12/+60WTF is Vista???
    • BradleyBo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25Yeah, well, there are plenty of people who can't decide whether to say Vist-a or Veest-a...
    • chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -20/+8Vista - "A distant view or prospect, especially one seen through an opening, as between rows of buildings or trees."

      get it yet?
    • threemonkeydust, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I know someone who was going around calling it Vispa
    • shakin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35It's named Ubuntu 7.10. Gutsy Gibbon is a development codename. Ubuntu codenames aren't any worse than Windows codenames like Janus, Chicago, Memphis, Whistler, Longhorn, etc. And it's along the same lines as OS X's Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, etc.

      Ubuntu's codenames tend to be a comment about what that Ubuntu release is going to accomplish. Warty was a rough and ugly first release. Hoary was mature and wise (compared to Warty). Breezy was simple and easy. Dapper was polished. Edgy had lots of leading edge features. Feisty is a courageous leap forward with restricted drivers and a compositing window manager. Gutsy looks like it'll take some chances like Edgy did.
    • bobothn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21for that mater who goes around calling their operating system operating system?Seriously i thought mac people were suposed to be creative.
      Guy 1-Well this is our tenth version of our operating system any ideas for a name?
      Guy 2-I know how about operating system 10
      Guy 1-Brilliant
    • EGOvoruhk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2rappermas: A vista is a long seeing view. Seems fitting for a product named Windows, as you might get such a view when looking out of one
    • geoken, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"Yeah, well, there are plenty of people who can't decide whether to say Vist-a or Veest-a..."

      What's to decide? It's a valid english word with a consistent pronunciation dictated by every major english dictionary. It's either pronounced right or wrong. It isn't a made up word that's open to interpretation.
    • bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Honestly, I switched to Ubuntu when Vista came out. The only time I heard that expression was "Hasta la vista, baby!" It scared me enough to make me jump product lines.
    • veracon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Fiesty Fawn?"
      Of course not. FEISTY Fawn.
  • adila01, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18I just hope that Linux MCE and Beryl will be included by default. This will make Linux a far more appealing option for newbies.
    • 350Zed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Agreed, as long as it can be installed *without* the pretty-it-up options so I can still run it on my older boxes.
    • Chickenlip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Feisty is already like that ... You have you manually enable Compiz and/or Beryl ... And they are both included in the distribution I believe, or if they arent, they were a simple apt-get away.
  • lagrange, on 10/12/2007, -9/+57I'm waiting for Horny Hacker.
    • 350Zed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28I believe you may be stuck at Dorky Doesntgetlaid, if you're that sex-starved.
    • mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9That name is reserved for users.
  • mbthompson, on 10/12/2007, -18/+2Wait a minute, aren't we at Hoary Hedgehog right now? Isn't this a step back? Somebody please explain this because I know I'm not the only one confused.
    • strabes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Hoary was the 2nd release of ubuntu. Edgy is the current release and feisty is the one that is being released in April.
    • MikeEnIke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Hoary Hedgehog was like version 4. Feisty Fawn is the current beta, and Edgy Eft is the current 6.10 stable release.
    • krewemaynard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Someone doesn't know their alphabet...
    • mbthompson, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Gah! That makes no sense! H to D? These homoriffic names need to stop.
    • Intrepion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10uh-oh! what comes after Ubuntu 17.04 Zealous Zebra? maybe they'll start 2-letter scheming like on spreadsheets!

      Ubuntu 17.10 Admirably Appealing Antelope
  • elcaminos, on 10/12/2007, -45/+9Why do linux names have to be so gay?
    • williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58"Longhorn" ISN'T gay????
    • sigsegfalt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14My guess is that the majority of Ubuntu's target user base doesn't know or care if they are using "Feisty Fawn" or "Gutsy Gibbon" or whatever. They just know that it was easier to get installed and set up the way they want it than just about any Linux distro they've ever tried in the past.
    • ChoadNamath, on 10/12/2007, -22/+4Seriously, the Ubuntu release names are reeallllly gay. That doesn't mean the OS is bad, though, so you guys can stop getting all defensive about it.
    • Frost9999, on 10/12/2007, -20/+2@williamdyer - Longhorn is the name of a great bar in Whistler, Canada. Longhorn, Whistler... seeing the pattern? It's where MS people went during development of these projects. What can you say about Gutsy Gibbon that makes the same kind of sense?
    • ChoadNamath, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"so you guys can stop getting all defensive about it."

      Apparently not...
    • geoken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"Longhorn is the name of a great bar in Whistler, Canada."

      Is it a gay bar? No matter what you say Longhorn sounds totally gay.
  • mostapha, on 10/12/2007, -14/+1No thanks, I'm staying with Feisty till 8.04.
    Thanks for ruining my year, Shuttleworth.
  • brocej, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7So much for Giant Giraffe and Gay Gimp.
  • foreplay, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4"The Glossy Gnu will nonetheless play a role in this next release,
    because Ubuntu 7.10 will feature a new flavour - as yet unnamed - which
    takes an ultra-orthodox view of licensing: no firmware, drivers,
    imagery, sounds, applications, or other content which do not include
    full source materials and come with full rights of modification,
    remixing and redistribution."

    did this sentence worry anyone else. Is this release going to follow in debians steps and rename firefox to ice weasel.

    • williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What do you mean "worry?" There is nothing so damn secret in wifi firmware that it can't be open-sourced. Heck, whoever does it first will sell more chips, which is how they make money.
    • shakin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11When Mark Shuttleworth says Gutsy will have a new flavour he means there will be an option to download a version of Ubuntu that only has free software, while the standard desktop release will keep the restricted driver manager and some other closed source programs. This seems like a good compromise for some people who won't use any non-free software.
    • GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5That's really just referring to GNewSense or whatever it is called. The art of breaking your distro for the sake of purity.

      I'm surprised this isn't LTS. I thought they were coming every 18 months. At least is shows Ubuntu is willing to be flexible, Dapper still runs fine for most things corporate so really a new LTS would be a waste of money.

      @williamdyer

      There is no need for Firmwares at all. As Theo de Raadt has said repeatedly. This sort of thing should be hard coded into the device.
    • foreplay, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2you missed the point its not just wifi firmware drivers its everything.

      1) Firefox likes to keep the copyright on its logo(which is fair enough), so debian removes that logo and renamed firefox ice weasel so its now completly free.

      2) binary drivers (nvidia or ati drivers for example) just been included by default in fiesty as they should be wont be included. ati's suck but its better than vesa.

      will this mean lots of extra work checking licenses of stuff to make sure every last bit of it is o.k to be included. I know its not just another flavour of ubuntu but it seems alot of extra work for nothing.
    • generalloy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"1) Firefox likes to keep the copyright on its logo(which is fair enough), so debian removes that logo and renamed firefox ice weasel so its now completly free."

      I understand that you're probably just making things concise for the sake of digg here, so for anyone who's a little more interested in the issue: the actual problem is that you can't modify and then redistribute it; the actual copyright isn't a problem. Debian also puts the GNU documentation under "non-free".. And the binary drivers aren't included by default, it's just a bit more user-friendly to download them.-- otherwise kernel developers would send GPL violation notices, as what happened to a live cd distro called 'kororaa' that included the nVidia drivers. ATI's drivers also are pretty much ***** because you can't run compiz or beryl with them easily, so the open source drivers win there.
    • mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Debian is retarded if thats true, thats an example of what people would call a 'gnu nazi' and i would agree with those people.

      Part of a brand name (Firefox is a brand now), is it carries with it all of its well earned stability, safety, security.

      It is NOT IMPORTANT to be able to modify the firefox logo, and thats precisely the kind of crap that makes linux development redundant and wastes time.
  • anudeglory, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Come on, when is Zesty Zebra going to be released? Slow. Lol.
  • 350Zed, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2This is further proof that if Linux is to really succeed it needs somebody marketing it besides the geeks (and I use that term affectionately) who create it.

    Leave the coding to the coders, and the marketing (i.e., naming) to the marketers. Better marketing is the reason why Microsoft is the market leader, not better product.

    C'mon Linux guys... go get some professional marketing help, and stop trying to be cute with these dumb names.

    [BTW, I'm both a Windows and Linux user, and a fanboy of neither]
    • zachf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25The next release better be "Hungry Hippo"...
    • hyperfocal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Microsoft already has a Hungry Hippo called Vista.
  • monkeyvoodoo, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4Am I the only one getting tired of reading these arguably retarded-sounding Ubuntu codenames every day on digg? I mean seriously -- I already have had enough of the words "Feisty Fawn", and this one sounds no better! *sigh* I guess I'll have to get used to it...
    • Frost9999, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3No, I'm tired of it too. But it seems that the 'in crowd' (if that term can be used to linux fanboys) on this thread are finding the names quite amusing and fun. I can just imagine trying to convince the CIO or IT director at a large enterprise to consider Ubuntu.. until he innevitably goes to google.com and comes back with one of these absurd codenames. The first thought will be "not a serious OS". And first impressions count more than anything.. including the facts.
    • Peepsalot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6frost9999: Just call it Ubuntu 7.10 then.
    • Frost9999, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2@peepsalot - I can't control what the IT director will see in google search results. Sheesh it's frustrating trying to make people realise that the real business world thinks these names are retarded and stupid. *sigh*.

      Mark Shuttleworth - if you read this thread please take note - the code-names are dumb no matter how cool Ubuntu is. Sort it out if you are serious about gaining credibility.
    • mazza558, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8People said the same about Google.

      Back then, people were still wondering WTF Google was.
    • mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1They need to stop releasing builds under their development name, it helps no one and makes the system look childish just like "mac".

      Fiesty Fawn lives in the woods, Mac is your buddy, the only thing left is Windows which at least knows enough to generate professional names.
  • Antebios, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I would have liked "Gorgeous Gal" better and then have a hot geek babe as the mascot!
  • blumer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11It took me a few minutes to realize I'd misread it, but with Ubuntu's history of code names, I can't imagine I'm the only one who read "Gusty Gibbon" and had the thought, "Why would I want a farting monkey on my computer?"
    • mbrane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7If you run Windows, provided by "Monkey Boy" Steve Balmer, that's precisely what you have now.
  • mbthompson, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7Next up, Huge *****. (oh, and I'm using Ubunutu Ultimate Edition on my Linux box, so it's not like I'm not a fan or anything but the names are quite ridiculous)
  • imfm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well, I see that I'll be calling this one "7.10". ;)
  • Bonzodog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Wow, with yesterdays ubuntu.com link to the feisty shipit site, and this one, digg has effectively taken down almost the entire ubuntu.com domain. we are checking, but it appears that the repos, mailing lists, shipit, and main site are all almost dead or very slow. And launchpad is extremely slow.
  • MattFlower, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Was Mark drinking when he wrote this or what? I like Ubuntu and Ubuntu is the os of my laptop. But it hardly seems the time to spend 6 months removing packages that work.

    I want proprietary software out of there as much as the next guy, but it seems that dealing with problems like:

    1. Shorter battery life on Laptops than in Windows
    2. Making the restricted manager work correctly. I still have 2 devices that aren't properly working with it. One of them is my NVidia video card!
    3. Delivering on the compositing promise that didn't work out for feisty. If it isn't "mature enough", how about putting your focus where the community is? Lend some developers to the effort and put out some bounties for things that are particularly nasty.

    Again, I really do like Ubuntu. This release seems like a mistake though.
  • Sharkee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Gibbon: a small ape - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbon
  • Luigi30, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Should have been called Gaping Goatse.
  • Sharkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"Some folks would say that any monkey can install Ubuntu (and sadly, other folks would say that many have), but the Gibbon will take easy installation to a whole new level, with work on an unattended-installation infrastructure in Ubiquity that makes it trivial to roll out Ubuntu desktops across an organization while getting on with other, more complicated stuff such as Windows service pack installations on legacy desktops."

    nice sneaky little stab there
  • Ek0nomik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5These names are cute, halik is full of it. I'll take cute fury names over brute masculine names anyday.
  • aiten, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4There is a serious point here. I really like the codenames, they are very creative, but they are not going to gain Linux credibility. Drop the names I reckon, make GG the last. Ubuntu 7.10 is fine.
  • cutewillie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This Ubuntu you speek of is a pornographic film? No?
  • Sewende, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I like it.
  • adarkmethod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2As long as it keeps kicking ass and being more functional than windows ever was, I dont really give a ***** what the call it.
  • Goldspink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Do, do, do the funky gibbon.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goodies#Goodies_songs
  • TheSeeker11, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I thought Garrulous Goat would've been a great name... I don't know why, it just sounds cool.
  • turrican, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Wonder what they're gonna do after they reach Z? Which might be what, Zealous Zebra?
  • sirhomer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think it's a handsome name. Bring it on Gibbon!
  • BlueTide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I partly think that the name as itself sucks, but somehow I get a warm, cozy feeling about it nonetheless. :) Much more personal than what I get from names like Ubuntu v. X.Y.Z. There ya go, keep up the good work Ubuntu team!
  • ubunturd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ubuntu 7.0: Gay Girraffe
  • joelinuxguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Was Gassy Goose taken already?

    Come on people. If Linux is ever to be adopted by corporations, cut out this crap. Explaining that to exec that our business relies on something called 'Fedora' was bad enough. Mental imagery of Joey from Degrassi Jr. High aren't reassuring when thinking about your super expensive infrastructure.

    I'm not going to wait for Ubuntu 19.10: Sassy Sanjaya to be released. Later Ubuntu.
  • dramaDodger, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Gnarly Gnu is the only logical codename for this release. You know, a little tip of the hat sort of thing.
  • kevmaster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0An Ubuntu enthusiast takes on Ubuntu 7.10 Tribe 3 ALPHA and Live Blogs the whole experience.
    http://digg.com/linux_unix/Upgrade_to_Ubuntu_Gutsy_Tribe_3_ALPHA
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