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- TehDoctor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34Numbering from zero isn't something Stallman started. A lot of programmers do it because that's how array indices are numbered.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27I mirrored it, direct link to the PDF: http://www.mercurysquad.net/issue0_2.pdf
Apart from helping diggers without an ubuntuforums account, I hope this will also crash my host's servers cuz I'm really mad at them. - Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23cell number?
- erzz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15If anything defines why linux is intimidating to newbies and non-technical types its having a beta version of a magazine. Dugg for simply being funny as hell
- ZeroMP, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17It is really cool that you have to be logged in to access it. Buried as lame.
- autoatsakiklis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Dugg for #0
- NerveBand, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3381/fc0b1previewsx4.jpg
Terrible magazine design. Ugh. - diggfinity, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13The next issue will be Volume 0, Issue 0.1a.
- bobothn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9sorry for comment abuse get file here with out registering.
http://bobothn.googlepages.com/fullcircle0_beta1.tar.gz - kushed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8They should call it "Sudo"
- bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8FOSS people like to give out functionality ASAP, especially when the functionality is powerful but the front-end hasn't been developed. Have you ever developed a GUI? It's very time-consuming and often tricky to debug. In addition, making your code publicly available helps both to reduce bugs and to receive feedback from your end users. If everything came out version 1.0 at the beginning, you'd have buggy software with security holes in it.
You don't have to use beta software. Many applications have a stable version released. Beta software is meant for testing and debugging. I avoid beta software wherever possible; I haven't upgrade to Feisty yet, but I'll be getting it the day it comes out. By releasing about 5 test versions before the official release, most of the kinks will be worked out before I touch the software. - Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"Terrible magazine design. Ugh."
While I agree that it needs alot of work, the entire point about an open source work is that anyone can contribute. If the design offends you, submit a refined version and the changes are it'll be adopted. - UNL1M1T3D, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Then maybe you should stop reading the articles. Really, how hard is it to look at the title, realize you don't want to read about it, and move on?
- strabes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This might be a good thing for new users but there's plenty of blogs and howtos on ubuntuforums to do any task that a new ubuntu user would need to know how to do.
- wired4u, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Another mirror in case it goes down http://nerveending.org/issue0_2.pdf
- jeffeb3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I would like a newsletter type email. filled with tips and tricks. I don't think a trouble shooting forum is the same because they are for fixing active problems. You have to know what you want before you go there. If someone wrote a nice little hot to for DVD backups in Ubuntu or something like that every issue, I would be very likely to read it. Now, I just use Ubuntu for basic stuff. Everything I do on it works, so I don't go to the forums.
- mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3but this is a good thing. Hopefully this will turn into a print magizine. Ubuntu would be a great match to use that distrobution method. In the US there's not any good Linux Magiznes... the best user oriented ones come from the UK and always include lots of new software, tutorials, news and of course Linux distros. I think a Ubuntu Mag would do really well. It could serve as a distribution method for the distro... Ubuntu's regular six month schedule matches print quite nicely as the print copies won't be obsolete before the ink dries. The Ubuntu community is also perfect for providing a "comprehensive" linux package instead of just cool parts. The Wiki and forums are great...and especially friendly to newbies. A Print book is exactly the right next step. Ubuntu doesn't have a fixed distriution path.. unlike Mandrive or RedHat they don't make money of selling Ubuntu so cooperating with a seperate business selling disks won't hurt them at all.
- nayr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My father's book starts with chapter 0; it's not that uncommon.
- arjie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4oh no bias, you misunderstand. The larger the number of people who give it a shot the greater the chance there'll be someone who hits upon a nice idea. And if they share their versions, and little improvements to each others' versions you can get some nice results. I liked what happened on the Ubuntu wiki over the Iceweasel icon, and I actually have two of those icons for use now, one on my other computer and one on this. Remarkably, the open source method does work :) atleast for me.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Probably because it's not a phpBB forum.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That is actually a really funny comment. Well, until Dell starts shipping with Linux installed, you kinda need one of the other two to "switch."
- UNL1M1T3D, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21. Boot into Fedora Core.
2. Download Ubuntu iso.
3. Burn iso to disc.
4. Reboot computer.
5. Ubuntu-ness! - poppyfire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Um . . . a mag is kinda clever (I guess), but they also have a wiki, and to be honest, there are plenty of Linux and ubuntu wikis out there. I'd have to see a bigger issue of the magazine to digg this.
- Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Could someone please write this how-to:
"How to download and install Ubuntu WITHOUT requiring Windows or OS X".
( I kid, I kid ). - GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@"bias"
No really if you keep repeating the work eventually you will get it right. This is true in *all* fields. To establish art and design as special is just a form of arrogance it doesn't deserve. Essentially people will learn, it's a trainable thing. There is no genetic disposition to design in general it's just something you earn through hard work. Either these people will work hard enough and learn to do it properly or they won't. That is the OSS way as much as anything else. - fiddler616, on 05/28/2009, -0/+1Full Circle is a reference to the Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu logos (Circle of Friends), and I think it also references how it covers all four.
- digitalranger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Unless Stallman is a couple of hundred years old and invented mathematics, then starting from zero isn't *his* numbering system.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well maybe they could have a section in the magazine by that name, with tips for admins...
Full Circle, I agree, is very generic, undescriptive, not quite related, and kinda lame. - mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the next one will be .01, then .02, etc ... in true OSS fashion the print will never reach one. And when it does reach 1.0 they'lll drop the project to move on to other things.
- mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Because #0 is always the most collectable comic!
- jasonsalas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hopefully this will take off positively, seeing as how www.tuxmagazine.com doesn't publish new issues anymore.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's just entirely the wrong attitude to have these days. I wish them the best of luck.
- bushnoh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1dear dear, beta version. this is very lame
- oobogart, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Bah 5 pages only
- Peepsalot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1hence "beta".
And yeah, that's why I didn't digg it. Hopefully it will be interesting when the first issue is actually completed. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Interesting...PCLinuxOS is up to Issue #8...almost a year :)
- oobogart, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1oops double comment
- Ampidire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Dugg for OP of thread using Keroro Gunsou as his avatar.
- darksheer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6*yawn*
Call me if this makes it past the first issue. - stotty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So if you're looking for a how to on unzipping tar or bz files, exactly how does this help?
Seriously though, I know tar is a simple thing for techies but what about the newbies who are trying out this Linux that everyone tells them is a good thing? How is this magazine going to be any good for them when they suddenly have to hit the command line to even get access to the file? That's just going to scare them off from the magazine at least.
EDIT: Digg down, just woke up to the fact that it's not the magazine's release, it needs editing by the OSC. - tmanka, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Anyone else getting just 5 pages? I think there should be about 23?
- makario, on 09/03/2009, -2/+1I can confirm that.
- bias, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Well... if you guys really think you can apply "Open Source" into Art / Design or monkeys can write Shakespears, then I know why most of the open source software interfaces are so butt-ugly.
- bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Dugg for Ubuntu [/sarcasm]. I used to have to look at MS articles on my front page every day because there was no option to get rid of them. I no longer have that problem. Thanks, Digg.
Maybe Digg should allow for filtering articles by words in the title so that people who don't want to hear about Ubuntu don't have to. I hear people complaining all the time that they're sick of it. - black27696, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0It's not issue zero because they're being programmers, it's issue 0 because it's beta. Everything beta is always zero point whatever. The first issue that's actually meant to be an end product will probably be issue #1.
- mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Why the ***** is everything beta these days? It's like a cop-out to actually finishing what you started and being lazy or something...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I can't believe the (VB) forum hasn't gone down yet.
- Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Linux is dead.
- bias, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3@NerveBand
What do you expect from the Linux People.
@mejogid
Creativity, art & design are not something that will turn better if you add more people to work on it. No matter how many monkeys you put to work they won't make you a Shakespears play. - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6It's clear that they are adopting a Stallmanian numbering scheme (binary). Is the magazine copylefted?
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