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- keitho, on 09/22/2008, -2/+26i am more interested in how it handles sleep/hibernation out of the box than how his wireless card handled it. my inspiron 8600 doesn't handle it too well out of the box with 8.04.
- schestowitz, on 09/23/2008, -4/+21Isn't that a kernel feature, i.e. available in many coming releases? Either way, new screenies: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-8-10-Alpha-6 ...
- CCmachined, on 09/23/2008, -0/+10i also take it you've had a lot of experience with "plug and play" hardware requiring use of a driver CD, and then a required reboot before it actually works. this is a good example. when did you see a wireless net card that doesnt require ANY setup or configuration AT ALL on windows? NEVER. install the driver, reboot, put in connection info, connect. those are required steps.
in Ubuntu, 95% of the time, if it works in Linux, it works straight away. kind of like Apple's "Just Works". but with much more hardware actually available on the market.
the other 5% either don't work at all or need some googling to get a driver / instructions.
also, did i mention most hardware doesnt give a ***** for Linux, and only really wants to play nice with Windows? i'd say thats pretty awesome going for tux. - infiniphunk, on 09/23/2008, -0/+10It's still in alpha people! Let's not get our panties in a wad.
- adt41287, on 09/23/2008, -3/+12then write a startup script that loads in the correct DNS servers. shouldn't be that hard. one line of code.
- oobuntu, on 09/23/2008, -0/+8I hope he reported the bugs he found. There may not be many testers using that specific port replicator
- GavinZac, on 09/23/2008, -0/+8I'll take it as you meant to say "adding support for 10 pieces of hardware whilst breaking 1, my one, which I didn't do any testing for, and thus was in no way a part of the solution".
Intrepid works great for me, feels nice and lean, and the new network manager is fantastic. - motang, on 09/22/2008, -0/+7Really? I have a HP dv5000z and 8.04 was the first to have sleep/hibernation down right. Of course for it work I had to enable the ATi drivers in the Hardware Drivers.
- csrster, on 09/23/2008, -0/+6I take it you have a lot of experience of installing various versions of Windows on both new and legacy hardware.
- oobuntu, on 09/23/2008, -0/+6how do you know the instability wasn't with gnome? you changed too many variables at once to tell for sure.
i wouldn't say kde4 is feature complete yet - still needs more qt4 apps - e.g. amarok and koffice2 - Avian00, on 09/23/2008, -2/+7Dugg for calling them "screenies" :-)
- Izacus, on 09/23/2008, -3/+8It seems even the new Ubuntu release continues the trend of breaking perfectly working features.
- cozmoz365, on 09/23/2008, -0/+5I hope you didn't install over your existing setup :-)
- TheCosmicFool, on 09/23/2008, -0/+5If only there were some way to recompile a kernel with the toshiba_acpi modules included. Its too bad the sources for these things are closed ;)
Also, Did you try submitting a bug report? - djchester, on 09/23/2008, -1/+6echo "nameserver ipadress" >> /etc/resolv.conf
- srg13, on 09/23/2008, -0/+5It was a little overcomplicated to get my 9600 working too - I had to install the nvidia-glx-177 and the nvidia-177-modealiases (or something like that) packages, and then make an xorg.conf that had the driver as 'nvidia'.
Ideally it would just pop up in Hardware Drivers and you'd hit install (like you can with older cards) but for some reason it doesn't work with the newer ones for some reason...
By the way, even if you can't get the proprietary nvidia driver to work, the open source nv one should still work fine - as long as you don't care about Compiz and 3D games... - wacked, on 09/23/2008, -0/+5actually we're talking about ubuntu, not "yada yada yada" which is most likely a windows variant of some sort. i wouldn't know since I don't put ******* on my hardware. :P
- Vadi0, on 09/23/2008, -0/+5Not that I know of. You have to install drivers on windows after installation.
- inactive, on 09/23/2008, -1/+5If you're having networking problems, just install WICD. It automatically removes the broken Network Manager during the install. WICD "Just Works" with any wireless hardware I've tried it with.
- ramilehti, on 09/23/2008, -2/+6On my toshiba laptop it totally sucks. They removed toshiba_acpi modules from the kernel and added tlsup module that is not supported by any of the existing utilities.
Because of this bluetooth does not work. The performance is flaky otherwise as well.
I hope they get it right before release. - mattycoze, on 09/23/2008, -0/+4I wonder if they'll start making it a priority to optimize the battery life for laptops... and before anyone pastes something to do with lesswatts.org; I've tried it - and there's no way I'm gunna try dick around with it much more. None of the how-to's or feature programs do me any good.
I checked Ubuntu brainstorm and this idea has been in development since March 08 yet it was marked as low-priority; teh hell is with that?
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/81/ - Mark2600, on 09/23/2008, -0/+4I used Alpha 4 of Ibex, and it seems they've come a long way. My network card wasn't recognized by default, but was easily fixed with ndiswrapper. The only REAL problem I found was getting my 8500GT recognized, and after about 8 hours of trying, I just removed it. Although, with all things Alpha, you can't really expect anything. Here's to hoping Canonical gets this one right, because Hardy just isn't cutting it.
- Zaggynl, on 09/23/2008, -3/+7We don't need 'startup scripts' also known as a dirty hack to get this to work.
Fix the damn driver/network app. - regx, on 09/23/2008, -0/+3Doh! sounds like they are forcing KD4 in the Kubuntu version. I am quite fond of KDE3.
I will give it a shot, but it says right on the download page that downgrding to KDE3 won't be easy. - infiniphunk, on 09/23/2008, -2/+5nice screenies. Dugg.
- Avian00, on 09/23/2008, -2/+5The problem he describes with a LATER version of Ubuntu no longer properly detecting screen resolutions is nothing new. I have experienced regressive behavior with almost every release of Ubuntu. Hardware that worked GREAT with 6.06 no longer works properly under later releases. They really need to figure this out. Adding support for one piece of hardware while breaking 10 others is not progress.
- unforgiven24, on 09/23/2008, -0/+3Care to elaborate? No really, I'm a Kubuntu user, I'd be interested to hear why.
- Codename, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2The wireless issues are nothing new, I remember when I was using Gentoo WAY back I had wireless issues, the only reason why you're hearing about the issues now is because a lot more people are getting interested in Linux, so there's a lot more diverse hardware out there, so of course there will be more issues.
- zarque, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2this is only one persons opinion of how ibex works better with their laptop...
- regeya, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2I'm running Kubuntu Hardy with KDE 4.1, and Amarok, while still in testing, is quite nice. It has an annoying habit of not pausing, however.
Having said that, I do think that by the time Intrepid is out, KDE 4.x will be ready for prime time. One thing I'd like to see is a spacer for panels, and would like to see more work done on playing nice with other apps, such as the awesome QtCurve theme's GTK2 theme sharing a color scheme with KDE4 out of the box, but that's not a KDE4 issue...I would also like to see, just because that's how I am, more eyecandy in the final release. - HonoredMule, on 09/23/2008, -2/+4hack != fix
- cquilliam, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2Intrepid still not very stable on my HP-COMPAQ laptop. Problems i'm running across is after only a couple minutes coming out of a resume, the thing hard locks. I'm not too worried, we're still in alpha, lots of time to go.
- mindracer, on 09/23/2008, -1/+3I'll go back to ubuntu once they fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/240063
If you use a static IP, after every reboot you have to manuelly re-enter your DNS servers because they disappear, it's completel retarded! Make fun of windwos all you want, atleast i dont have to enter ip addresses after every reboot. - NTolerance, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2Article says the theme has been "fixed". Say it ain't so.
- regeya, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2If you run EnvyNG, your 8500GT should work fine. I've got an 8500GT, and that's all I had to do.
MY problem was getting other things to work, and the solution ended up being--ugh--to run the Zen kernel. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get hibernation to work, and it throws overly verbose errors all the time about PCIe errors. - ethana2, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2That's why I got a Dell.
1420n, great machine, nVidia drivers aside...
but I hear they're coming out with new ones soon that suck less. - HonoredMule, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2PWN!ES !!
- TrevorPace, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2I've got Alpha 6 on this computer right now and it's so far great. My Toshiba's function keys now all work. Tab features in Nautilus are great. And wireless is faster than ever. Flash still is iffy for me and sometimes just doesn't render, and Network Manager no longer saves my WPA Passwords.
But definitely considerable improvements! - PJBovoNox, on 09/23/2008, -5/+7I can't believe people dugg you up. *Sigh*
- xavier2010, on 10/24/2008, -0/+1I know the feeling, I have a CQ-50 215NR, and while the video driver issue is ***** on 99% of linux distros (cannot detect what the video card even is! er... it wont just boot up with generic video) I finally got my sudo on with the 177 drivers, got the eyecandy with emerald and compiz, wireless was ONE ***** PAIN IN THE ASS, because i had to reinstall multiple times with different configs with madwifi to get it to work (and still dont know exactly HOW I got it to work) and did a huge update to 8.10 (from 8.10 beta mind you) and now Sound doenst work, Video drivers arent supporting glx for some odd reason, Compiz is shot, my Mac-esque cool guy bar wont open, and im like wow... this is a step foreward? hope like hell they fix all this soon.... oh yeah, and if i connect to a wireless network using wpa2, it connects for like 3 seconds then disconnects and it's like it's in a retard loop... yeah.. wrong direction man. and hell yeah i put in a bug report. I love ubuntu but man, this isnt good so far. seeing as they only have 7 days before it's out!
- gertvdijk, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Please DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT run this release on any computer with an Intel Gigabit network card installed. It may render your network card totally useless! A bug in the new e1000e driver in the 2.6.27rcX kernels can corrupt the EEPROM of your Intel networking device, rendering it unusable, even after reboots or running other operating systems. It will cause HARDWARE DAMAGE.
link (launchpad bugreport): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+b ... - LostOverThere, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Hmm, I've had this problem too. Where Firefox just locks up randomly, as well as the scrolling being painfully slow.
- kossy, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Trying 8.10 out tonight on my hp dv9000. Got all the hardware working in 8.04 with a little playing around, curious to see how the support is with the new version. Grabbing intrepid-alternate-amd64.iso now :P
- smylie, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1Agreed. My bog standard HP67010b suspends, hibernates, and wakes perfectly - 7 times out of 10.
The other 3 times, the computer wakes up, but the screen does not. Hard reset time - bye bye to anything I was working on.
Getting hibernate and suspend working reliably on most laptops needs to a priority... (and I know it's hard because each one is different, but still, ubuntu needs this to compete with windows) - wispygalaxy, on 11/08/2008, -0/+1He's being cute. ;)
- bieber, on 09/23/2008, -3/+4What the hell are you talking about? I didn't see any mention of anything breaking in the review. If you're having problems on your own machine that you totally neglected to mention, well, it's a ***** Alpha: what do you expect? At least wait for a release candidate before you start tossing judgments around...
- wacked, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1Still a long way to go basically. At least they're getting there. To bad Lenovo are a bunch of ass wipes for no longer fully supporting linux.
- stewacide, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1This is due to Adobe's Flash not working right with Pulse Audio. Download Flash 10 out of the Intrepid repo and install that (will work fine in Hardy): http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/flashplugin-no ...
I can't understand how they haven't released an automatic update fixing this problem. Makes browsing almost impossible. - ramilehti, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Of course I submitted a bug report.
The first one was closed quickly. The second one has been "Triaged" and nothing has happened since.
I could recompile the kernel but then I would have to do that every single time the kernel is updated again. Not a good solution IMHO. - AnAfricanOnline, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1i not even gonna bother opening that!!
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