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Ubuntu Edgy Eft Ugrade Common Problems and with their Solutions

debianadmin.com — Here is the common problems when you upgrade ubuntu dapper to edgy and their solutions

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  • ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Non responsive so far at 32diggs...
    http://www.duggmirror.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Edgy_Eft_Ugrade_Common_Problems_and_with_their_Solutions
    • AlanLivingston, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Works for me, so far, at 35 diggs!
    • Four20, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1worked for me at 53
    • trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7One thing I would like to say, although there are many legitimate problems upgrading, I think the main source of problems with upgrading has come from people that think they are "smart enough" that they don't need to follow instructions and instead of running:

      gksu "update-manager -c"

      They edit their sources.list and dist upgrade which WILL break your system, that at very least appears to be the case with the person who submitted:
      http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Edgy_Upgrades_a_Disaster_for_Many
      And most of the commenters as well.

      Please see http://jonathancarter.co.za/?p=58 for details on what NOT to do.
    • zip000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I updated yesterday with absolutely no problems - it took a while, but ran smoothly.
    • cezar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@trogdor

      I followed the directions and it still killed my system. This isn't just FUD, something is actually wrong with the upgrade path.
    • stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Most people having problems have used Automatix or some other third party extras installer or have installed stuff that removes ubuntu-desktop and stuff like that. This will break the upgrade path, because you are breaking the system. At least for stuff like Automatix etc this should be able to be made to work properly with some care, but that would require a real effort instead of the dirty quick hacks that are now.

      I understand that people want all their goodies, but if you are using Automatix you better wipe-clean install each new version instead, there's just too much cleaning to do otherwise.
    • dadioflex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I ran Dapper with Automatix, in fact the Dapper was an upgrade from Breezy. The only thing that the official upgrade path did to my system was knock out my ATI card. I reconfigured xserver and it's all working fine though without any 3D acceleration, I suspect(not a problem for now anyway.)

    • fatas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@trogdoor

      The problem was that you had all these people writing on how to perform the upgrade. Note the Alternate CD upgrade is different to your method.
    • JW00000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@trogdoor and many others
      For anyone saying hacking your sources.list is not the official please take a look at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php . The "official" Kubuntu release notes for Edgy really do say you should edit your sources.list. So no, I don't think I'm "smart enough" to use a non-official way, we're simply following the instructions posted by the Kubuntu maintainers.
      And, BTW, I don't understand why there should only be 1 official way. If I want to upgrade by changing my sources.list, why should that form any problems? And if I rather burn Edgy on a CD so I won't need to connect to the internet during the upgrade then why does the upgrader still asks for an internet connection? And don't even try to change my mind by saying Edgy is *supposed* to be edgy: it's an official release, not some beta or RC! I thought Ubuntu Linux was for human beings, but the Edgy Eft clearly thought something else.
      I hope the next release will go by with less problems.
  • LogicallyGenius, on 10/12/2007, -27/+2Forget Ubuntu, nothing is better than Mandriva 2007
    • zzzzbest, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22If they're still RPM-based, they can go ***** themselves.
    • samueldockery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I gave Mandriva 2007 a try and its horrid. You have to register (and pay?) for their "club" to get access to certain drivers (madwifi). WTF is that about? In Ubuntu its click, click done.
  • drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Good to know. I upgraded my Parallels installed Ubuntu last night and when it came back up the X server no longer worked. I'll be trying some of these tips tonight.
  • MWrenn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fantastic Timing. Just had one of these problems this morning, and was going to tackle it after work.
  • zoransa, on 10/12/2007, -19/+2You should optimize your news title with this:
    http://www.rentalio.com/2.0Digitalizr.html
    • drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Wow - quite possibly the lamest thing I've seen on the internet for a while, that.
    • Snoopy7176, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yes, that is one of the dumbest things I have seen in....well.....as long as I can remember at the moment.
  • tchawla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2One big problem I heard people trying to deal with is if they had Xgl installed before the upgrade, then X no longer loads after upgrade. To get standard xserver-xorg to load if you're in this situation, edit your gnome display manager config file to load Xorg instead of Xgl. From here you should be able to boot into Xorg and then set up Xgl from inside a GUI instead of using nothing but command line :)
  • Four20, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4I have heard a lot about Edgy upgrades. 95% being not good.

    Until I start to hear about the better things, I think I'll stick to my Dapper install.
    • bllambert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5its just the upgrades. A fresh of install of edgy does not have the same issues.
    • ninjacob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I've upgraded 3 very different dapper machines to edgy...no problems here.
    • pbaehr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Fresh install runs beautifully. Just another reason to keep your /home on its own partition. Makes wipe/install pretty painless.

      For anyone who doesn't know how to get that set up, this is a good guide.
      (Disclaimer: this is not my website)
      http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
    • shadesfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5That may have something to do with the fact that the only people you hear about are the ones who had a bad upgrade. I did have a bad upgrade, but I upgraded before the beta, so I kind of expected something to go wrong. Yay for having a separate /home partition.
    • stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's the automatix (and similar) users you hear. Using stuff like that or installing stuff that removes the main desktop packages will break the upgrade path. Wipe clean is the only sane way forward then.
    • Four20, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1See, and I use Automatix, and Easy Ubuntu(mainly AX2, but EU does have 1-2 things I need as well).

      I believe I have gotten everything working on Ubuntu, that I can do on Windows. I would like to see NewsLeecher working in wine first, but when that happens I will be wiping my entire hdd and setting up Ubuntu only. The question is should I go edgy or stick with the dapper that has not failed me in any way.
  • thtroyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If you're thinking about upgrading Dapper to Edgy, do yourself a favor and do a clean install this time around.
    • stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Only if you have messed up the system (ie Automatix, totem-xine or similar). A system with only software from the normal repositories should have no problem (barring the odd bug).
    • thtroyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@stoffe,

      So... installing non-default repository software is 'messing up' the system? Granted, the farther you depart from the base install, the more likely something is to break when you upgrade the system... but merely departing from the base install (using it) is hardly 'breaking' the system.

      How does Automatix 'mess up' a system? Doesn't it execute scripts similar to what I'd do if I installed it myself (w32 codecs, for instance)?
    • stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2To be more specific then, it messes up the upgrade path and not (necessarily) your working system. It does this by introducing dependencies that can't be fulfilled during/after upgrade to next version, potentially incompatible repositories and binaries from these that conflict with the new system and in some cases removes metapackages such as ubuntu-desktop which are necessary for a smooth and automatic upgrade.

      Clearer?
    • thtroyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yep. Thanks for clarifying.
  • PirateFSM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'm starting to look at Ubuntu more seriously. The community and its dedication are reason I use Fedora. Ubuntu's shows signs of strength. I sense a great disturbance in the Disk, as if millions of bits cried out in terror and were suddenly overwritten...
  • synchestric, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Gives a 403...
  • chickens, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, it really looks like I was a lucky one when it came to this upgrade. Everything but my wireless worked right off the bat. The wireless was a simple as coping the broadcom drivers into /lib/firmware/new_kernel_version/
  • epohs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1xorg was broken after i upgraded through update-manager... everything started, and i heard the drums as if gdm was running, but the screen was entirely black so i was stuck.

    i have an older matrox video card.

    i had to boot using the "recovery mode" kernel in the grub menu (boots to a root terminal) and reconfigure x [ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ] i believe the only change i made was to disable framebuffer.

    hope this helps someone.
    • tchawla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, a lot of times a new xserver-xorg package will enable the framebuffer by default. You can make sure this doesn't happen by (if prompted to) not replacing your config files, or using override config files. Most of the time you can figure out a reason why X isn't loading from its error output (e.g., if it says it can't access the framebuffer, disable it!)
  • h0zae, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5This is the quickest way for the Linux community to loose momentum. A newbie loosing his Gui will get frustrated and quickly go back to windows.
    • ajifans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To be fair these problems come about if you don't do a fresh install. And then these are easily fixable.

      Is it even possible to do a Windows upgrade e.g from 2000 to XP without a fresh install?
    • chapium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3To answer your question, yes, its very possible to upgrade from 2000 to XP.
  • djfelix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Bork! Bork! Bork!
  • nbx909, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2good guide, basically the same stuff i've been spewing into the help channel for hours. Though i thought the no status stuff on usplash was a new clean boot up feature and not a bug, so i'll be fixing that later when i get home.
    • ThrobbingBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It isn't actually a bug. They did disable this to clean up the boot process. Some people like to see it though. This just shows you how to enable it.
  • Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1"Ubuntu just works". The actual problem is that magic.so is broken.

    Don't get me wrong....Ubuntu isn't bad.....but for all you people who say that it "just works"......remember this.
    • PixelCloud, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2people who say "It just works" haven't looked a the support forums on ubuntuforums
  • itanshi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5i trust installing edgy fresh avoids most of this if not all?
    • andrewhodel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4yes, no problems here
    • revisrev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Here were my experiences...

      Dapper to Edgy RC1 Upgrade... failed.
      Edgy RC1 Live CD... failed.
      Dapper to Edgy Upgrade... failed
      Edgy final release live CD... worked like a damned charm.

      Running on a Dell Inspiron 6400 w/ Broadcom 4311 card, Core Duo (1.6), widescreen display. After looking through forums and such, I could've solved all of my failed upgrades if I had waited a few days for questions to be answered. At any rate, I am extremely pleased with Edgy for all practical purposes, and I love the TomBoy notes. Helps when you get phone calls from an eccentric boss and you have to organize his brain output as you're talking to him.

      Tomboy notes saved my job... and my marriage (my boss is also my father in law).
  • drewskyjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1As others have said here, clean install = minimal problems. I was thrilled that it recognized my DLink wireless card automagially...had to use NDIS wrapper the last time I installed Ubuntu. But if you havea lot of time invested in your setup, a fresh install is much less appealing. Hopefully 6.11 (or some minor point release) will be out soon and resolve those upgrade issues. I'm digging Ubuntu and considering a switch from Windows.
    • ThrobbingBrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Halfway between 6.10 and 7.04 they MAY release a 6.10.1 that includes all the bug fixes and security updates released since 6.10 launched. Edgy is the first in a set of 3 releases before the next LTS. Things will break and not work. When you are in the midst of recoding the entire infrastructure of an OS, things WILL happen...
  • senorBojangles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nice compilation. Thanks.
  • zzzzbest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anybody had issues with swap not working after the upgrade? What's this UUID business?
    • code_of_life, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1dunno what UUID is for, but I got the UUID of my NTFS partition using hwinfo, put it into /etc/fstab, and it mounts correctly.
    • zzzzbest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just had to mkswap my swap partition. Go ubuntu I guess.
    • ThrobbingBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1IIRC, UUID is more specific than (for example) /mnt/hda1 and therefore is more successful went mounting drives.
    • AdamZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yep, I had that problem too. Look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/66637 for the solution. Specifically, comments 4 and 5.
  • code_of_life, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Edgy is really good.

    The only problems I've had were
    1)Live CD installs GRUB to the MBR (hd0). I had to do a fixmbr,fixboot and reinstall grub on hdg7. Now the NTLoader loads Ubuntu via bootpart
    2)Gparted shows 2 of my 3 drives as "UnAllocated", but those were 80% full with NTFS partitions
    3)Ubuntu finds errors on my second drive, which contains two logical NTFS partitions. Acronis and Partitionmagic find no errors on this drive. Maybe I should create a dummy primary partition on the drive...
    4)My Radeom 9800pro never uses the updated fglrx driver (downloaded and built), I get only 350fps in glxgears.
    Tried all methods without error, but did not work. Setting the extension Composite=disabled did not work as well.
    • nicko68, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dapper Drake's Live CD also installed GRUB only to the MBR. If you wanted a choice of where to install it, you needed to get the "alternate" CD. This one isn't live, and the installer was text based.
    • code_of_life, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The alternate CD was no good for me, The installer's partition choices were useless. It was forcing me to use hda only. It did not detect the ntfs partitions on hda, and did not even see the disks hde and hdg (hdg had the empty ext3 and linux-swap partitions I created for ubuntu)
  • dynacrylic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I decided to go the Kubuntu route- fresh install of 6.10; i didn't want the problem of having to upgrade and then switch desktop environments.

    This is at least a good set of notes and such to help out those that decide to upgrade rather than a fresh install.
  • clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Except for my slightly odd Matrox P650 drivers that I needed to reinstall, Kubuntu updated just fine with their instructions of replacing dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list.

    Works ok on 2 systems so far.
  • hchaudh1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I upgraded from dapper to Edgy and mostly its fine, but, Firefox crashes on some pages. Actually, the only page it crashes on is my GMail inbox page and I have no idea why? It does not use Flash as suggested in the article.

    Apart from that, I am having problems with Beryl. But I can live without that.

    I think I am going to do a clean install tonight and see how that goes.
  • Patented, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I did the upgrade and don't have any issues - at all, on a Dell POS laptop (Inspiron 1100/512mb ram). Haven't upgraded the server yet, don't really plan to.
  • usucapiao, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0I guess the site just got owned by digg, I just cant open it!
    LOL!
  • mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe it's just me but there's nothing in Edgy that I consider worth any hassle (major or minor) of updating a perfectly running Dapper install.

    My Dapper install has been running for over 45 days straight so far with XGL, Compiz and all kinds of other crap. It's super stable and fast and have no issues.

    Maybe I'll upgrade to the next release...

    BTW before someone says something about Firefox 2.0 or what not, I'm running Swiftfox 2.0 on Dapper perfectly fine thanks. For other things I'll rely on the Backports effort.
    • thtroyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Then it sounds like you ought to stick with Dapper -- it's a super-solid release.

      I've noticed some improvements, most of which wouldn't even affect you. Upstart offers a speedier boot-time, for instance, but with an uptime of 45 days, it isn't worth it to spend several hours reconfiguring a system to lose a couple seconds on an oh-so-rare reboot.

      Some new artwork. Nothing major. The new startup/shutdown splash screens sure look perty, but again, something you'd rarely see.

      Myself, I've noticed a little improvement with my wireless connection, and I've seen some strange nvidia problems I've had disappear. I'm guessing at least the wireless improvement is due to the newer kernel.

      All in all, it was worth it for me to upgrade (clean install; don't update into Edgy). I'm running a laptop, so I'm constantly starting/stopping the system, and the current boot time is somewhere around 30 sec to login, without tweaking. With a few issues fixed, Edgy is running overall smoother than Dapper did. However, if Dapper is suiting you well, stick with it, and wait a few releases. Edgy is more like an upgrade than an overhaul.
  • Blom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I upgraded using the: gksu "update-manager -c" : method.

    The upgrade itself went smooth as, still buggered sound in flrefox flash plugin though... Was broke before, was broke after mind you, so I'm not worse off...
  • BigBadger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I had a typically horrid upgrade, but at least I was able to download the iso and burn it, even though my os was majorly buggered. I re-installed the os from disk, and everything works great, now. Mind you, I was lucky 'cause I keep my /home folder on a separate partition.

    Word of advice: ALWAYS KEEP YOUR /HOME ON A SEPARATE PARTITION! That way you won't lose your important stuffs.
    • thtroyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, this is almost always a good idea to keep your /home directory on another partition. It might not always be as 'friendly' a setup or as efficient with disk space, but when you break the OS or simply want to do a clean install, there isn't any backing up to do -- simply install over the old OS, mount the partition to the /home directory on /, and you're good (Ubuntu's installer can do this for you).
  • hotani, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Here is another list of common problems with fixes.... and it's not diggfrakked:
    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283364
  • Tanath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I did a dist-upgrade to Edgy about a month ago with minimal problems. Works great now. :)
  • Sabot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had two major problems with my upgrade:

    I had to manually add drives to fstab to have them mount.
    Nvidia driver in repository messed up my xorg.conf file and I had to reinstall because I did not make a backup :(

    Major upside for me is Kino worked much better for me.
  • ddinsdale, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had one work with minor issues (caused by installing something out of universe), but fixable with Aptitude broken package fixer. For some reason, the new artwork just isn't there though. The other machine was pretty vanilla (but had automatix). It was unrecoverable.

    My new method is to just install the new version within the old partition (the installer will ask you if you want to resize an existing partition. Then mount the old partition and copy the home drive over. Next upgrade goes in the older partition and so on. This way I can always boot the old copy, but so far, every release has just gotten better and better.
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