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- jorgepblank, on 11/03/2007, -3/+23When will people understand that these are code names. It's like when Vista was called Longhorn, code names just ease the pain of developers having to say "Hey I was working on SEVEN POINT TEN", instead they just say "Hey I was working on Gutsy".
If Ubuntu gets to X and Y, it'll by then have been so powerful that a new species of animals will be created for the sole purpose of calling the code name after its name. - iFungus, on 11/02/2007, -0/+19Xenophobic Xerus? (Its an african squirrel - perfect)
- voxel, on 11/02/2007, -1/+12I've been using Ubuntu 7.10 for a couple weeks now and am very happy with it. They've made some great improvements and really shown a lot of progress.
My one question is why, after all this time, don't my back/forward mouse buttons 'just work' by default? I mean, the average computer user doesn't even care about having to install drivers... let alone open up configuration files to add such simple functionality. - jorgepblank, on 11/03/2007, -0/+7Your latter point isn't completely true. Things like the Restricted Driver Manager can be considered part of the 'Interface', this and other things have been created by Ubuntu to give the user a better feel over the Desktop. But you're right, it's not solely Gutsy, more GNOME than anything, I'm just saying that this is what he could have been referring to.
- solinent, on 11/02/2007, -0/+6you know, mplayer and mencoder aren't a part of ubuntu? also, there's nothing wrong with mencoder.
- Elderon, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5people quit complaining about stability. Gutsy was designed to have more features and functionality this release. Heron should provide more of the bug fixes stability you want. However, if stability is all your after go stick with debian stable or a BSD derivative. Some of you have legitimate gripes but crikes some of you just want your hand held and everything spoon fed to you, in that case linux is not for you right now.
- inactive, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5Have you tried the new AMD catalyst driver?. It should fix these problems.
- Berkana, on 11/02/2007, -1/+5Their naming scheme is amusing. What will they do for letters like X and Y?
- robrjones99, on 11/05/2007, -5/+9Gutsy is a great release. I think the interface could use little polishing and I like the idea of improving the users ability to share legal content. I would like to see the Compiz stuff get more press. Granted, it's still experimental but its VERY usable in its current form.
- symbha, on 11/02/2007, -2/+6Hungry Hippo woulda been so much better...
- oneoverzero, on 11/03/2007, -1/+4Okay, I'll bite, that's true.
The way he said it, it sounded like all UI things. - hipnerd, on 11/02/2007, -2/+5Well, "Y" is obviously "Yellow Yak"
"X" is a bit more difficult... - positron, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Just look inside yourself and you'll see me waving up at you, naked, wearing only a ***** ring.
- Kalimotxo, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Yeah, "Humptydank" isn't nerdy sounding...
- chaos386, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Here ya go, just scroll down to "Code Name Suggestions": https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
There aren't many entries for X or Y yet, but hey, we've got until 2016 before they come out. ;) - aiten, on 11/02/2007, -5/+7I love Ubuntu. I've never promoted anything as hard in my life, and it doesn't earn me any money whatsoever!
- cdmarcus, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2I like the Xerus, but I think that "Xenophobic" is not quite the message that Ubuntu wants to project :)
- trogdoor, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2"My only issue with Gutsy is screen resolution/video drivers. Once installed, the correct max resolution is correct, but it's a pain in the ass to lower it."
System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution ?
I agree that the new Screens and Graphics tool is crap but *lowering* the resolution has never been a problem for me. I have never had Gnome's screen resolution switcher *not* work, and it's been available as long as I can remember. - ptFoe, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Most Gnome apps still can't support the scroll button to let you scroll more than one line at a time
- gandre, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Ditto, I had ubuntu 6 and was happy, but went back to windows to wait for ubuntu 7, for the sole reason of my back/forward buttons not working. I know its shallow and I probably could have gotten them working... but it should just work.
- cdmarcus, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Forward-backward buttons work on most mice with some work... but I'm unfortunate enough to have a mouse that, for some reason, sends the SAME button number for back and middle-click, and the same again for forward and right-click... so there's no way to force X to recognize them as different buttons. If I fix my back/forward buttons, I lose middle and right--cilck, and vice-versa.
- PlutoPrime, on 11/02/2007, -4/+6You and me both buddy.
- voxel, on 11/03/2007, -0/+1Hardy Heron will be an LTS release, so stability will be a big issue for developers.
developers developers developers developers!
... *****.. I couldn't help it - voxel, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1yeah, I'd probably just buy a new mouse...
- mitrovarr, on 11/02/2007, -5/+6I don't know how they manage to think of a stupider name each time. They must devote a large proportion of their development time to it.
Why do free software developers have some mysterious attraction to godawful names? I mean, look at some of them. The GIMP. Pidgin. Gnome. All the billion misspelled words that start with K.
Would you all PLEASE pick names that we don't sound retarded using in conversation? You had it for a while. Nothing wrong with 'Linux' or 'Openoffice' (I realize it's technically openoffice.org, which is stupid, but that wasn't intentional.) I know you all hate the corporate-sounding names, but seriously, 'Hardy Heron' isn't an improvement. It sounds like a name the lead developer's kid came up with and wouldn't let the rest of the team vote off. - Jimu00, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1ummm nope.
- synkdorbit, on 11/03/2007, -0/+1Hardy har har har.
- Humptydank, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1Not that it matters, but it's actually an Eddie Izzard reference. So if anything, it should be funny-English-transvestite-sounding.
I'm more amazed that I got away with only 7 Diggs down on my screed. The Digg community must have felt charitable yesterday. - Stonekeeper, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1*awesome* hardware design...
- arcticblue, on 11/03/2007, -1/+2I think that Gutsy is a good release. Not a great one, but a good one. I thought it was perfect at first, but after using it for about a week now, some pretty ugly bugs have started to show their face. The main one being the inability to use Xv to play videos on my Nvidia card. All I get is green boxes and this is on a clean install. Unfortunately, that happens to be my MythTV box and since my TV doesn't have a tuner, I kind of need it to actually play videos. I've gone back to the open source driver for now, but I shouldn't have to do that.
Another bug that is kind of annoying is MyhtTV's lack of support for international characters on the uPnP server. Japanese characters show up fine on my MythTV box, but when I go over to my PS3, all I get is scrambled characters. MythTV also seems to tell the uPnP server that all my recordings are 0 minutes long. I submitted a bug and the only feedback I got was "submitted to upstream". ...geez, thanks for the help guys.
Granted, both of these bugs aren't the fault of the Ubuntu developers, but you would think that some sort of testing would go in to the software in the release and they would pick versions of the software with the least bugs. As great as Gutsy is, alot of stuff just feels half finished. Since Ubuntu devs seem to have a habit of not fixing bugs after a release (except for security bugs. The rest say something along the lines of "this will be fixed in Ubuntu+1"), I've gone back to Feisty until Hardy comes out. I'm sure Hardy will be much better considering it is an LTS release. - selrahc, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1But that would make it sound like a bloated resource, umm, hippo.
- Atomic1fire, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1Sadly yes
- Jofaba, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1Before installing Envy, that wouldn't even work for me. Now with envy, it usually works but sometimes the resolution changes. Also, the preference screen resolution lists my refresh rate at 51hz.
- Jofaba, on 11/02/2007, -1/+2My only issue with Gutsy is screen resolution/video drivers. Once installed, the correct max resolution is correct, but it's a pain in the ass to lower it. I like the GUI of Xorg now, but It's still crap. Half the time I start my computer I'm at a super high resolution and have to ctrl+alt+backspace and log back in.
I know it can be fixed by altering the xorg file but that's not user friendly. I refuse to do it solely on the basis of what Ubuntu stands for. You shouldn't have to alter text config files to get things working normal.
I'm Ubuntu for life. It's coming along great. It's still not quite there yet for the common man though. - crossers, on 07/16/2008, -0/+0Heron should provide more of the bug fixes stability you want.
http://www.shpe-sac.org
http://www.ocflex.com/
http://www.trgovinca.org
http://www.chasr.org/ - LinuxKitty, on 11/02/2007, -0/+0The new machine that Gutsy does not run on has a 8800GTS (check forum for NVidia issues with Gutsy). I was not bothered about the old desktop. Like I said, it runs Feisty just fine and probably will run Hardy fine as well (it froze with ATI binary drivers and the open source one, by the way). But that I had to switch to another distro to get Linux to work on a brand-new box with a mainstream card (MB is not as mainstream, however), that just shouldn't happen. Anyway, it's all Linux, and thankfully there is the choice. I just don't agree that Ubuntu (particularly 7.10) is all that mass-market ready. I'm glad it is there because it raises Linux awareness, but 7.10 just didn't help matters. If I liked KDE, I'd recommend PCLinuxOS to Linux starters.
- chaos386, on 11/02/2007, -1/+1Here ya go, just scroll down to "Code Name Suggestions": https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
There aren't many entries for X or Y yet, but hey, we've got until 2016 before they come out. ;) - jamesrdorn, on 11/02/2007, -8/+7Did anyone else read "Ubuntu Developer Summit lays out vision for strong Hardy Heroin release" ??
- symbha, on 11/03/2007, -5/+3Hungry Hippo woulda been so much better...
- LinuxKitty, on 11/02/2007, -4/+1Gutsy was a complete let-down for me. On my desktop with an ATI card it freezes randomly every few hours. I reverted the machine back to 7.04. On a new desktop, Gutsy installs after some tweaks, but fails to boot in curious ways. Fedora FC8 has no such problems, and time-table-wise these two can be compared. I have been a loyal Ubuntu follower for some time, but the 7.10 release was rushed, numerous bugs were still open, and if you look at the forum, you will see that these are not rare issues. Two more releases like this and Ubuntu will turn from a Linux marketing blessing into a PR nightmare. I do believe that Hardy will be stable, though, seeing how it is going to be a LTS version.
- oneoverzero, on 11/02/2007, -5/+2Compiz doesn't have anything to do with Gutsy. It can run on any distro.
Also, the interface has a lot more to do with GNOME than gutsy... - blueness, on 11/02/2007, -4/+1Gutsy sucked in terms of hardwire compatibility, there are tons of people who are stuck without suspend/hibernate due to fglrx issues, upgrading from Feisty was also a nightmare, NOTHING works unless you know what you are doing in a terminal, that's not user-friendly at all. Hardy Heron better bring back up the standards or I'm afraid more people are jumping the Ubuntu ship.
Less eye-candy, more stability PLZ. - scrumpy, on 11/02/2007, -6/+1I'm getting such a raging clue.............
- robertmf, on 11/02/2007, -6/+1Is mencoder going to be fixed ?
- davidjunit, on 11/02/2007, -7/+2Shyeah, did I miss Ballsy Ballsack?
- chrisxkelley, on 11/02/2007, -10/+5hardy heron... in my pants. haha
- bitemegates, on 11/02/2007, -10/+5I swear every time I read Hardy Heron, I think ... " Hairy Hard-on "
- psylence, on 11/02/2007, -7/+13 months from now... "We'll be pushing awesome-feature x to Hardy+1, SORRY!"
4 months from now... "We'll be pushing other awesome-feature x to Hardy+1, SORRY!"
5 months from now... "We got a new printer configuration dialog, we worked sooo hard, heeeeeres Hardy!"
They always shoot way too far and end up missing the mark. It's Debian, vanilla Gnome and a couple python apps for his noodly appendage's sake. - Humptydank, on 11/02/2007, -9/+2I'd just like to say that the naming scheme drives me f*cking nuts. Completely f*cking nuts. I admit that it's a pet peeve, but I have to say this out loud just once.
I love Ubuntu, I use Ubuntu, Ubuntu is a friend of mine, but whenever I see those names it's like a perfect storm of an incredibly uncreative system, combined with an adjective/noun combo that seems to have not only been brainstormed by a bunch of complete nerds, but also seems to have been further refined based on some purer standard of nerd cleverness, and they even miss that mark. They drive me f*cking nuts.
Okay, I know, no need to Digg me down, it's my thing. I'll go get it checked. Thank you for your time.
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