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- Vich, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17You mean there are other operating systems besides Ubuntu?
- jsully, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11And is already available, complete with auto installing .deb. For more information:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295524 - inactive, on 08/26/2008, -4/+13StartUp-Manager is better...
- kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12A GUI to sort out my Grub Bootload order. AD LAST. I know I can edit it if I open the right file with terminal, but this is a GUI that really really needed to be made. Great job.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7StartUp-Manager is older but Bootloader Manager has a few options that SUM doesn't have...
- crazybrit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6It's not going to be ready for Gutsy, though.
- schoate09, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9idk why people are burying you. I think it's bad if isolated to Ubuntu.
- Hemingrubbish, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6it was more fun without...
- miga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5There is QGrubEditor too http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/QGRUBEditor?content=60391
- championchap, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I cant imagine it wouldn't work on any Debian based Linux box.
Probably just be a case of tweaking it a little to work on others too. - ZeBadger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Um... they've spelled appearance incorrectly on the horizontal tab.
- HonoredMule, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3There's only one think I want from linux distros with regards to bootloaders: the ability to choose on install (and preferably later as well) which physical disc's master boot record should have the bootloader placed on it.
Microsoft on the other hand shouldn't be allowed to write OS installers or bootloaders until they've been forced to repeat 6th grade. - mikedoth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Looks very nice.
- muep, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think it should work with most Debian -based distros, because the Grub setup and the tools are similar. UBM may break the automated updating up menu.lst on some other distros, depending on how they handle menu.lst.
- ha1f, on 10/10/2007, -11/+13Cool. But if it only works for Ubuntu, its the hardest failure ever.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Is a Wordpress.com site...
- shuffle2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I heart yast
- ubuntuholic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3That's being done for Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) as well I think
- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+7Does this work with any grub/gnome-enabled distro?
- cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The code is open source and not ubuntu specific. Any distro that wants to implement this could do so easily.
- Darkhacker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4coral cache link in case it goes down: http://laserjock.wordpress.com.nyud.net/2007/08/18/gsoc-ubuntu-bootloader-manager-02/
- Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I've never heard anything good about yast (i'm not trying to be a dick) what is it you like about it?
- Appleboi4evr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2um. i rather see a GUI on X.org (and not only for fail safe mode) before i start caring about a interface for dual booting windows xp on my Linux box. frick :P
- 99butcher99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It seems to me that yes sum is available but boot manager does more. Maybe some people also like an option.
- cdmarcus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You don't know what this is, do you? This isn't a replacement for GRUB, it's just a way of editing the GRUB configuration in a GUI environment, without editing text files.
- cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yes it will
- NedSlider, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You have to be joking - right?
Why on earth would anyone want a GUI Bootloader Manager to edit a human readable plain text config file that's only a few lines long when any text editor (GUI-based or otherwise) on the planet will do a perfectly decent job?
One of the main strengths of Linux has always been it's human readable plain text config files compared to Windows obfuscated Registry system that attempts to hide things from users or at least make them as inaccessible as possible. It's a strength to be embraced and celebrated, not hidden away behind some convoluted GUI manager applet. - weizbox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2very nice. kinda reminds me of Grub Config, which was made for Gnome in general, not just aimed at a certain distro: http://grubconf.sourceforge.net/
The project has been idle for some time tho :/ - jsantos17, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I guess you don't even know what is a boot loader, RTFA
- Blazeix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Have you ever seen window XP's bootloader? It looks about the same as linux's Grub bootloader. (Maybe even a little worse)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTLDR - weizbox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2read the article next time before making a comment. it helps.
- ubuntuholic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's a summer student project, give him a break ;-)
We (I'm the mentor) are working with UI people to make it better. This is just the second iteration so there's still lots of work to be done. I do hope that the project ends up being more than a menu.lst frontend. I think it has potential to be more and the student seems capable. - aletornw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i'm just hoping that kubuntu has the same GUI's and improvements like ubuntu. For example the great easy mounting feature of ubuntu 7.04 wasn't added to the kde version.
- 99butcher99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1but where do you get it from? I can't find a link anywhere to the actual prog.
- Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes having an option is good "We finally have a graphical user interface for configuring GRUB's menu.lst. The Ubuntu Bootloader Manager is still alpha quality software but the developers are very interested in getting feedback from those who wish to test it." implies that there never was anything before it, which is horse crap.
- championchap, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2No idea why you're getting buried.
http://fosswire.net/2007/08/17/ubuntu-getting-xorgconf-gui/
The story is only on Page 2! - ttfkam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You're right. I was a dick.
I humbly and publicly apologize. - schotty, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Dunno why the parent post is getting modded down. Anyone with an unsupported ATI card feels his woes (as do I on my Radeon XPRESS 200M based laptop). I have been using Linux for over 10 years and its a pain for me. I don't want to know what a noob would think.
Quite honestly you Intel and nVIDIA users have no idea how simple you do have it :D - championchap, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I would of thought they would have the "Enable Desktop Effects" option in there somewhere.. But hopefully allowing us to do more this time.
- weeble, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3About bloody time Ubuntu is getting these critical tools. openSUSE always wins out on my computer for ease of setup post install because of YAST. Ubuntu installs easier, but then it's a pain to configure Xorg GRUB etc. if you want something different than the defaults. I still won't use Ubuntu as a main OS (many reasons it still isn't as good as openSUSE for what I need...) but it is a major improvement... hoping for more Ubuntu improvements :-) Linux can only get better... and it's already a million times better than that archaic and broken Windows OS that people are hooked on like it's heroin.
- cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1>> This is merely grub.conf translated into GTK+. I am suitably unimpressed.
I'm confused. I thought that was the whole point. What else do you need? - ttfkam, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2It's alpha status probably refers to a tendency to crash, write invalid data to the configuration file, or failure to handle most corner cases. The sad fact is that most UI design in Linux sucks. Even sadder is that the primary reason is lack of actual design. Ooh! It has tabs so the config file is split into three screen views!
This is grub.conf translated to GTK+. If they were serious about this project, they would either acquire a UI engineer or at least read just about any book on the subject of user interface design. - Drain23, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2totally unnecessary
- Darkhacker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's still in a source repository. You need to download and install Bazaar and compile it yourself. Sadly, no .deb available.
Bazaar: http://bazaar-vcs.org/Download
Source: https://code.launchpad.net/~cacau/ubuntu-bootloader-manager/main - Balla79, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Jerk.
- NedSlider, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You can do this easily enough - just run GRUB and reinstall to your desired location. But with LVM, I've found I no longer really need to think about disks at the physical level.
And yes, you're right - Microsoft shouldn't be allowed to install bootloaders until they at least have the common decency to recognize other common OS's/bootloaders. - leexy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Can we get some GUI to dump pictures on the Grub screen. I know that it's not rocket science, but it took me around an hour to set it up a few years back.
- weeble, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1YAST as a package manager (10.2 and earlier) is horrible if you want anything from the online repositories (which is why I said Ubuntu wins hands down for package management)... but for system setup, nothing in Linux equals it (that I have seen). There is both a GUI and ncurses text version which are option/menu identical. YAST has setup utils for everything from Xorg to Grub to hardware config to server software setup and management to sysconfig and so on. Take for example you want to fire up Apache2 and PhP... a couple clicks in YAST and it's up and running (assuming it's all installed). No text mode configuration or CLI needed. You want to enable and disable system services.. same thing... couple clicks and you're done. You can do all of this from the command line with a text editor (vi, joe, emacs or whatever) or you can use the tools in YAST. YAST just makes it all simple.. either from KDE, Gnome etc or from a console using the ncurses text mode version for people who have not learned the old CLI way of doing things. You can argue CLI is faster, and in many cases I would agree... but when I don't have time or can't be bothered to read a man page to figure out how to start up some silly system process or whatever, I can start YAST and be done... get on with things.
- amoeba, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I've been using grubedit to edit via a GUI, works well.
- TargetBoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You can with Ubuntu, it is just buried during the install process under an "Advanced" option that uses different nomenclature for the drive than shows up anywhere else in the install process.
It would be really, really nice if they preserved the original bootloader for restore, if there was one, before they put the new one in and allowed you to move the bootloader to a different drive after install. -
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