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- wallclimber, on 04/27/2009, -30/+244So far, here in my own little universe, three computers have been installed with the mighty Jaunty-Ubu this week. Had a problem with sound on one machine. Haven't messed with it yet, but I'm sure it'll just require a small fix. Everything else works great, so far. Each install was finished in less than 30 minutes.
The very BEST part of installing Ubuntu on my friend's computers is that they enjoy watching the process.
I love the questions they ask, too...like:
"You mean you don't need a serial key?"
"Don't we have to register it?"
"That office suite's just a trial version, right?...No?"
"Where's the defragger, I'll need to use the defragger, right?"
"You mean I don't need Norton (AVG, McAfee, Avast, etc.) to monitor the system anymore? Really? Wow."
It's fun to see their amazement!! Lots of folks these days are GToW (Genuinely Tired of Windows), a fresh start with a new system makes everyone happy...well, almost everyone. I think Bill and Steve probably aren't happy, but whatever. :o) - inactive, on 04/28/2009, -6/+153Man, this guy's talented - he can write an article with one hand and masturbate with the other.
Seriously though, 9.04 is nice. - foofightrs777, on 04/28/2009, -3/+107I use Linux...and man, you really have to be in marketing or something because real people don't talk like that. Turn the evangelizing down from 11 to maybe 7 or 8.
- must1s, on 04/27/2009, -9/+111I installed the latest Ubuntu Netbook Remix (9.04) on my Lenovo Ideapad S10. Startup is very quick and almost everything works by default, love it!
These are the exceptions so far:
1) By default I could not connect to Internet over Bluetooth to my Nokia 6630. Fixed this by installing "Blueman".
2) Dual-screen setup SUCKS and BLOWS. Just horrible. Absolutely pathetic. I had a working dual-screen system running on Win98 almost a decade ago... How on earth can this be so difficult to archieve on Linux? C'mon! - inactive, on 04/28/2009, -11/+82I just wish all my Steam games worked on it :(
- PrimetimeFool, on 04/28/2009, -3/+59FTA: "we are looking at quite possibly the first Linux distribution that could... dismount Windows as the king."
I'm actually really excited about 9.04, but seriously, does every freaking article about a new disto/release have to end in this (always incorrect) statement?
Unless maybe I'm missing out on the joke? - dlllb, on 04/28/2009, -4/+45I don't think your acronym is worthy of being an acronyom.
- RGB0099CC, on 04/28/2009, -5/+45@U83RMENSCH, you say that like it is acceptable.
- virtualmode, on 04/28/2009, -2/+41Installed it on a laptop and on a desktop PC. Haven't touched terminal and config files, everything just worked. Laptop had wi-fi, sound, bluetooth out of the box, and Ubuntu suggested me drivers for videocard, modem and even additional proprietary wi-fi driver "just in case". On the desktop the same great experience, and also I could configure 5-channel sound with a few clicks. Great release (speed, notifications), just love it.
I'm not the kind of Linux user who uses Terminal, and in this case I never needed it. Software installation was also easy, I used "Add/remove", getdeb.net and Ubuntu Tweak. No terminal or configs again, everything is easier than in Windows. - inactive, on 04/28/2009, -2/+39I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04. Like every other time I upgrade, something always breaks that requires a bit of searching the ubuntu forums to solve. This time my sound stopped working (had to re-install the sound base), my samba shares disappeared and flash plugin disappeared from firefox.. even though it was marked as installed (had to remove it and re-install it). I mean, I love ubuntu, and have been using linux (slackware, redhat, mandrake, arch, sabayon) since 1995 (yes, 95!)... but why do these little things still have to come up? I know that a user without experience would get frustrated. At least this time the video drivers didn't crap out on me.
- chris062689, on 04/28/2009, -4/+36How exactly is that the Operating System's fault?
It automatically disabled Compiz because your graphics card wasn't up to snuff, wouldn't that be a better solution than completely ****ing over the system? - sloppychris, on 04/28/2009, -3/+32Team Fortress 2 and Portal work great in Wine for me.
- RevJonathan, on 04/28/2009, -10/+36I installed it on my netbook and my laptop. I was very impressed with the netbook interface and boot up time.
I hesitate to say this, cause I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but for me, I like Windows 7 more. I had no compatibility problems with it while I have a few issues to iron out on ubuntu. I also think it looks better, runs faster and is just easier to use. I don't think I could have said that about Vista over 9.04. For now, Windows 7 is my personal preference. - Pecheckler, on 04/28/2009, -8/+33Just installed it on my laptop. First thing I did was trying to install VLC media player using the software package manager. This installation failed due to some required package files not being available on the default ubuntu server. I switched to another North American software source, and it failed as well. I followed the directions on VideoLAN.org, unfortunately that is just a command line method of the original Ubuntu procedure causing me to be back where I started, left with no good option but to search the web manually for installation files and figure it all out for myself.
If I was using Windows... or god forbid a Mac, I could click my mouse a couple times...Download...Next, Next, Done.
While I appreciate the effort that has gone into the idea of a simple centralized software acquisition and installation source, it still negates the fact that it is all designed as a workaround to a ***** unintuitive operating system. Oh, and it wouldn't hurt if there was some ***** redundancy to the package manager download sources, especially for an application that is downloaded 94,000 times a day. - MattL920, on 04/28/2009, -5/+29Yes. ***** yes. I just spent my entire morning trying to get that to work, then lost compiz in the process because (as I found out three hours of searching down the answer later) the combined resolution of my dual monitors was more than the ***** integrated graphics card on the laptop could handle.
Besides that it's a fantastic OS - redrabbit, on 04/28/2009, -1/+24Wow! I wonder if it's because you have a different video card?! Detective TheZorch hot on the case!
- srg13, on 04/28/2009, -0/+22Nvidia is really good at this - their configuration tool is excellent
- inactive, on 04/28/2009, -2/+23use it? isn't that what anyone does with a PC? wtf...
- inactive, on 04/28/2009, -7/+26Giving Linux to people who don't know ***** about Linux or who aren't very computer literate is just a bunch of angry phone calls waiting to happen.
Hell, I know my way around Linux fairly well and even I get irritated more often than I would like.
Linux should be used by people who know they're stuff or who want to learn and who have patience to learn. Not by people who are probably like your friends.
"It's fun to see their amazement!!"
Right... I suppose you didn't bother to tell them that its going to be a 50/50 relationship. Some days you'll praise Linux, other's, which are probably going to be more often for them, you'll curse them to the depths of hell. - U83RMENSCH, on 04/28/2009, -3/+22sadly your probably right.. but only for the sole reason that every one will buy computers with win 7 already on them mostly for the fact that they dont know that there are other options
- bdbr, on 04/28/2009, -3/+22Did those friends think you were installing some kind of Windows? Are they expecting iTunes or Photoshop to work next?
- sloppychris, on 04/28/2009, -3/+20What?
- DBeta, on 04/28/2009, -1/+17Because Linux users love helping each other. So when someone says they are having an issue, it's our natural response to help them. I'm sorry if our willingness to be kind offends you.
- Langford, on 04/28/2009, -0/+16Just grab compizconfig-settings-manager.
- U83RMENSCH, on 04/28/2009, -18/+34depends on your card and video drivers buddy.. look into that.
- dayal911, on 04/28/2009, -0/+16I was afraid I was the only one who noticed him blatantly making up quotes.
- maccam94, on 04/28/2009, -0/+15Install compizconfig-settings-manager in Synaptic. It will appear as Advanced Desktop Effects Settings in the System->Preferences menu.
- Tenoq, on 04/28/2009, -2/+17Yeah, I'm sure he's going to go out right now and buy a GTX280 and shoehorn it into his S10. :P
- inactive, on 04/28/2009, -0/+15Yup, odd problems do come up like this all the time. Problem is that it never seems to be the same issues for everyone. Like for myself, I had no problems installing VLC using the software package manager.
- DBeta, on 04/28/2009, -0/+14Although I agree that those aren't true to live quotes, I have had people shocked at the concept of "free" software. It's a hard to grasp concept for people. "You mean people made all this and are just giving it away? Are they using it to spy on us? They have to be making money somehow!" Those are paraphrased from real things I've been asked.
- depro9, on 04/28/2009, -0/+14Nope, every thing works like a treat for me.
- srg13, on 04/28/2009, -0/+13I find it hard to beleive that many people think KDE looks better than Gnome. I haven't really tried KDE for long, but the application themes in all the screenshots I've seen look like absolute crap. The desktop looks quite good though.
Ubuntu does use a pretty horrible theme, but once you install Shiki Colours or similar, Gnome really does look awesome. - rpgmakr, on 04/28/2009, -0/+12Wait, you just said you installed the Netbook Remix, it won't provide the same kind of hardware support that the vanilla installation would.
- redrabbit, on 04/28/2009, -3/+15Unless you own an ATI Radeon x1600, like me. Then you can't use the closed-source drivers, which means you can't do anything remotely graphics-intensive. Back to 8.10 for me :(
- lordpookdai, on 04/28/2009, -7/+19by far the best quote ever:
"Where's the defragger, I'll need to use the defragger, right?"
Listing the pros of linux is one thing, acting like that actually comes up in an OS conversation is another. - gl77, on 04/28/2009, -3/+15my fiance tried to tell her sister about Ubuntu since she has been having problems with Vista. her dad was in the room and was very skeptical about it, saying that you cant trust it because it's a "new" thing and the bugs need to be worked out of it still and blah blah blah...........i dont even think my fiance tried to correct him, but her sister seemed into it. there are tons of people out there ignorant to the fact that there are other, better operating systems out there than Vista.
- maffiou, on 04/28/2009, -1/+13I think it'd be cheaper to buy a usb printer
- tHeSiD, on 04/28/2009, -5/+17but more frequently i face the question..
you mean i cant play games anymore? - inactive, on 04/28/2009, -0/+12Some newbie article writer who recently discovered desktop linux always goes throught the "linux is going to rule on the desktop very soon" phase. Been using Linux on the desktop for over a decade, yet I will never make that ludicrous claim.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 04/28/2009, -6/+17That applies to every Linux distro out there, not only Ubuntu, you know?
- SteveMax, on 04/28/2009, -2/+13Actually, I'd rather give Linux to someone who don't know anything about computers than Windows. The biggest problem people see with Linux is that they expect to keep doing what they are used to; for example, download software from a site and running an installer. Those people who know their way in Windows have to relearn to use a computer in Linux, and that may be too much trouble for them.
If someone never used Windows, they don't have to overcome those prejudices. They don't need to think twice whether the way they do things will work or not: they are learning anyway. There will be unintuitive things to learn, but that's the same with Windows: click "start" to stop using the computer, having to remember who wrote a program to find it in the "programs" menu, go to "file" if you want to "quit", single-click to do some things and double-click to do other things, etc. People who learnt under Windows are used to those, just like people who are learning under Linux will be used to desktop environments, "games" under "applications", etc. - cesclaveria, on 04/28/2009, -0/+111. CUPS
2. Probably all of them, and does windows update makes more sense? In this case you can see what you want to updgrade.
3. Gotcha, that one is a real issue, sometimes it may be better than what any paid tech support can hope to be, other times everyone is stuck in the same problem.
4. Tell me, where is C: located? your root drive is in / (root folder), other drives may be in /media/ is it really that hard of a concept?
Now tell me, where are your files located in windows?
c:\users\<username>\Documents (not bad... but)
where are your files in linux?
/home/<username> (much clearer) - barc0001, on 04/28/2009, -0/+11@Rhino2
Really? I guess my typing this on a Jackalope system with 2 screens running on an nVidia card with proper drivers is just me asleep having a fever dream then... And installing those imaginary drivers was easier than installing Windows drivers on my XP system at home as well. One click in the Hardware Drivers administration tool. - mirunit, on 04/28/2009, -2/+13Welcome to GNOME, I would suggest checking out KDE 4.2. I never really understood all the Ubuntu craze when there are other distributions that look and function great.
- sloppychris, on 04/28/2009, -0/+10Photoshop CS2 runs like a charm in Wine. Why anyone not on a Mac would want iTunes is beyond me.
- 1longtime, on 04/28/2009, -4/+14I'm going to reply here, since everything above me is over-the-top fan craze.
My message is blunt: I have used Ubuntu for two years, and I haven't had a single upgrade that hasn't ***** up something important.
On my primary desktop machine, I've had video problems, sound card problems, kernel bugs, etc. I usually search through forums for a long time before I find the "fix." Or at worst, a series of trial-and-error attempts to self-fix, which is painful because I really don't no enough about fixing a Linux installation to do it intelligently.
9.04 has not been an exception. In this upgrade, my partitions have mysteriously become "read-only" for no known reason.
Seriously considering to go back to Windows for good. I'm a technical kind of guy, but I can't count the number of hours Ubuntu has demanded from me to fix this "awesome" operating system... and I would rather do something more productivity than fix a ***** up OS. - ArthurSucks, on 04/28/2009, -2/+12McDouche is a McTroll.
- smacksaw, on 04/28/2009, -1/+11I did a fresh install of Vista yesterday. After installing all of the updates and removing the crapware, I'd say it took a good 5-6 hours to get running. And that's before I go and install all of my software, one-by-one.
I've been installing Ubuntu for a few days now and it's maybe 2-3 hours to select my software from the repos and it's done, from LiveCD to finish.
To answer your question, deal with what? Windows Update not being able to grab everything at once, being slow and requiring several restarts and/or freezing and failing during the update? Or having tweaks to do with Ubuntu that I can actually FIX myself? How about having to deal with all of the idiotproofing on Vista designed to "protect" me from myself?
If things are going to go wrong - and they do with EVERY OS - I would like to have some sort of control over the success or failure of the outcome. - jeremymccurdy, on 04/28/2009, -1/+11She can use it now really, Ubuntu is pretty damned user friendly. You don't even have to touch the terminal to do anything an elderly person would want to do. Hell, you don't even really need to hunt down applications on the internet, just go to "Add/Remove" and find the software you want to install.
- pHr34kY, on 04/27/2009, -1/+10I've been running this since alpha. The NBR has gone leaps and bounds. I can remember there was a guide to follow to set up on a netbook (it was about an hour of config changes and tweaks) - now it pretty much works out of the box... Oh, and it's quick!
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