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- filefly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I'm going to refrain from making a "that's what she said" joke and simply agree with you. I'm glad the guide's been updated... I'm new to Linux and I appreciate having a database of all the important, yet non-obvious, things I need to do while in Ubuntu.
- doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16"didn't have time for Ubuntu"
What does that mean? No time to learn how to switch? No time to reload all your computers? No time? I save tons of time using Ubuntu instead of rebooting my computer, and fixing things that are screwed up in Windows. I save time with Ubuntu. Are you penny-wise and pound foolish? - GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Is there anything that actually needs Automatix these days. Restricted Manager and the auto-codec installer should see to all your freedom hating proprietary needs :).
- Chandon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Have you considered using the "Add/Remove Programs" tool at the bottom of your Applications menu to install programs? It is sort of, oh, *Installed By Default*!
- Chandon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Ubuntu does set up dual boot automatically, for normal hard disk setups. It even shrinks NTFS or FAT partitions to make space for itself. On the other hand, if you have a hardware Raid 10 setup using 3 different brands of RAID controller (each using a different revision of SCSI), you may have to do the partitioning by hand.
- uzusan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That was quick. (Mind you i remember it being just as fast for edgy)
- sockrebel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't think Shuttleworth has anything to do with UbuntuGuide.org. It's community-written (from what I understand).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I thought the wireless was supposed to be fixed in this version to include WPA on the Live CD?
It STILL doesn't recognize my card and I can't get online, despite the card being a rather popular one in Linux (works with other distros).
Grr. All those months of being excited for nothing. - Flipsen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nice, thanks.
- Chandon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What's hard about "Applications" -> "Add/Remove..."?
For a user with no computer experience, Ubuntu is at least as simple as Windows. Hell, the office suite is installed by default - so they don't even need to install anything. I support a number of inexperienced users on both Ubuntu and Windows, and Ubuntu is somewhat easier to deal with because it doesn't get randomly broken or spyware/virus-infested.
Users I support generally fall into two categories:
- Normal users who want to browse the web, send email, do instant messaging, type letters & print them, and maybe pull photos off their digital camera and email them to people. These users are fine with Ubuntu.
- Power users who are constantly buying offbrand photo negative scanners and video editing programs at Best Buy for no good reason. These people I suggest a Mac for. If they were a little more technically inclined, they could use Ubuntu too, but for some reason they think they should be able to buy a $2000 peripheral without having to do any research at all first. Seriously, who spends $2000 without looking at their options first? - greatblackowl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5What a terrible first comment. Nothing to do with the story. One of the (many) things I like about Ubuntu (though I'm mostly a windows guy) is that it is SO easy to get everything basic to work. I have a Thinkpad as my primary computer, and everything works out of the box (except for wireless, but I haven't tried Feisty). To get into more advanced things (installing obscure apps, getting beryl to work, and whatnot), you do have to spend some time with it, learning UNIX. This is another thing I like about linux. It's perfect for everyone, as the basic users get easy solutions for basic functions, and more advanced types can spend time with the system and really feel like you know it when you're done with it.
Plus, after some initial fiddling, everything works really well forever. It seems like there aren't random malfunctions like in Windows. - shanesemler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Feisty is a major improvement over Edgy and next to SuSE it's the easiest Linux install I've ever experienced. So what "time" do you require?
- SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If the guide is meant to be complete, it should reference the appropriate KDE applications instead of the Gnome ones. There are many differences, for example, Konqueror is the default browser in Kubuntu (Firefox isn't even installed by default!)
In general, a novice Kubuntu user would be lost in that article. "There is no System menu!" They are spoon-feeding the Gnome users and expecting the KDE users to get around by themselves... - Me1on, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This isn't an official guide, and it is mainly focused on Ubuntu. Most of the guide is command-driven though, so much of it also applies to Kubuntu/Xubuntu. I've been using Kubuntu for about a year, and I know this guide has helped me. It's a wiki, so it should improve over time.
- Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -0/+2I didn't see this mentioned -- can't you upgrade from Edgy to Feisty using the Feisty live CD? I think this would be much faster than using apt-get (since the torrent is very quick).
- Chandon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ubuntu Guide is not official. For most purposes, it's actually redundant to the Offical documentation - which does include Kubuntu instructions. Check out http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ *first* with your questions, and resort to stuff like Ubuntu Guide and the Forums only if the official site doesn't help.
- jasorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is the best ubuntu guide IMO. I've been using it for a long time. Always has been the best information I've seen.
- phervers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm going to install Ubuntu in a couple of minutes on my desktop and that link is going to be handy :). I hope i won't be disappointed, one thing I'm afraid of is setting up a dual boot as my hdd setup is not typical. I wish there was an automatic dual boot maker ....
- ElCazador, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@ duhstupid (nice username, BTW)
I agree with doodlebumm and greatblackowl. Why bother posting such a cryptic comment without any further explanation? You had the opportunity to share a (hopefully) valid critique, to bring up some good points that others might agree with, and in some small way contributed to the improvement of future Ubuntu releases!
But instead wasted the opportunity by essentially just saying "I currently do not use Ubuntu". Well gee, thanks for that update, "duhstupid". Don't know why you bothered. You could've just submitted "First Post!" and had as much impact. Thanks for your participation. - selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How did you have the time to try ubuntu at all then? It would be nice if you had a bit more info in your comment.
- nikkkko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wouldn't a Kubuntu guide be the same set of instructions but with a 'K' at the front? (No sarcasm intended)
- selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My wireless doesn't even show up anymore in network manager? I had it working fine with WPA while I was in beta, did an update and now when I go to configure my networks all that shows up is the wired network and modem. Don't know if it is something I did or the update... oh well, I probably should have waited for the release in the first place:) Maybe I'll just reinstall, but I like to try and figure these things out first so I can fix them if it happens again. Overall I'm really happy with Linux, just the screwy wireless issues are not cool(probably doesn't help that I have a broadcom card).
- celeb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@badbox:
Mine worked fine, surprisingly, knowing all of the issues we have encountered with WPA and Linux in the past. I am using a Dell Latitude D620 with Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG nic. The only issue I did have though was that my video card driver wasn't installed by default (NVIDIA Quadro NVS 110M) but was able to easily install the driver with 2 clicks on the balloon that popped up to notify me of this issue.
So far I'm very impressed with this distro. - hardatheist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You can do that using the alternate CD. The alternate CD contains the .deb packages that's why you can upgrade with it. The "desktop" CD has a live filesystem that is copied to the hard disk during install.
- Me1on, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you have your own /home partition, you can upgrade to Feisty using the Live CD. Just format the root partition ("/") and leave your /home partition untouched. When the installer asks for your desired username, use the same username as the one on your current install. This method works very well, because it removes all the programs you've previously installed, giving you a "clean" install, but keeps your user-specific files and settings intact. I upgraded Kubuntu this way and haven't had any problems.
- Chandon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Some wireless cards just don't work with Ubuntu, or anything but Windows for that matter. This is because the manufacturers refuse to release documentation for the cards so the community can write drivers. The only good solution in these cases is to go buy a supported card - it's not that expensive (what, $30?) - and then you'll stop having to futz with it.
- neoweapon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Ubuntu is great, don't get me wrong but i have to agree there is a steep learning curve (for me btw) especially for installing new software. I really don't see how my parents will be able to learn how to use ubuntu if they are having a hard time with windows already. I use to be a desktop consultant and there are plenty of people having trouble learning a simple OS such as windows. Also, there is a lack of software support and compatibility with games and other window apps. However, i do think it is worth learning it as it does pretty much anything windows do and most importantly all for free.
- phervers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ubuntu installed and running, it was much easier than i thought :)
- dgr814vr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Tried Kubuntu, Liked Kubuntu, Didnt have time for it.
Certain issues kept raising heads. Primary of which being that I provide Computing support in my white box shop, and all those Beryl Videos do more harm than good when people bring in their notebooks for Beryling and the drivers dont work, Granted not really the herds fault.
My biz is finally taking off and guess when i have the capacity to hire someone ill be able to get Beryl working on Feisty and sell the Installation. Meanwhile I still Install it if people want it.
Atleast my Whitebox 6 LTS boxes sell.
No time to test and release the new release to my existing user base ( ) - BigDanee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Yikes, this server is going to crash now. UbuntuGuide.org has always been slow to respond -- Now it's getting dugg! hehe.
I've been using Automatix (getautomatix.com) to install packages for a while now -- A lot less typing ;) - hardatheist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Here is how I got my Xubuntu to work with WPA2 and hidden SSID (someone should put this on the ubuntu guide):
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834&highlight=wpa2
Good luck! - SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Interersting that Shuttleworth says Kubuntu is as important as the Gnome Ubuntu, but this guide is all Gnome-specific and there is no Kubuntu:Feisty guide.
- nayr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1not libdvdcss....
- bitORlogic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"I appreciate having a database of all the important, yet non-obvious, things I need to do while in Ubuntu."
That's what she said. - RandaII, on 10/12/2007, -13/+0over hyped pofs is what ubuntu is. buryed down as spam.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -30/+4Tried Ubuntu, liked Ubuntu, but didn't have time for Ubuntu.


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