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- aptget, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30For those not registered, I pasted it below: (replace [ and ] with appropriate tags)
[?xml version="1.0"?]
[!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd"]
[fontconfig]
[match target="font"]
[edit name="autohint" mode="assign"]
[bool]true[/bool]
[/edit]
[/match]
[/fontconfig] - jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Sorry guys, had to remove the images my server was getting whacked!
Go here -
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/jessejoedotcom/before.png
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/jessejoedotcom/after.png - RickySan65, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18ehm... ubuntu is free?!?
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Fonts "work" just fine out of the box. This is merely a way to turn on a better smoothing algorithm. Did you know you have to do the same thing (turn on ClearType) in windows? You also need to install drivers for most of your hardware still, all your applications, security patches (several times over), anti-virus software, ... the list goes on.
Linux supports your hardware out of the box (or it doesn't, there's no gray area), comes with office, graphics, and internet software, with multitutes more available with the click of a button, no extra CDs needed.
but... that said... I run dapper, and like knowing this stuff, so I am a member of the ubuntuforums, where all these new Dapper links are pointing. I'm pretty tired of seeing forum threads on the front page of digg. That's just rediculous. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I found this out a month or two ago. WHY THIS JUST ISNT INCLUDED ON ALL LINUX DISTROS BY DEFAULT IS BEYOND ME. Now if they can make my laptop screen as bright as it is in XP that would be great.
- gookie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12...and on Font Settings, I set it to Best Shape or Best Contrast instead of (ironically) SubPixel Smoothing.
Now your fonts won't be funky anymore! - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Because most Hinting algorithms are patented, many by Apple, and a few by Microsoft (ClearType, not exactly hinting, but the point remains).
I believe, however, that FreeType 2 has an "auto-hinting" module that's still a bit shaky that could be used without licensing (and is not covered by a patent). This /could/ be turned on, but certainly at the user's own risk. - jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
That will do it system-wide. - Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Armature, tell me you don't seriously expect people to pay the inflated cost of a Macintosh just for nicer fonts. Especially when you can alter them in Linux this easily.
- tweeto, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Any screenshots?
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Screenshots please?
- andrewski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This post is from a year and a half ago. All the fonts.conf does is turn on autohinting, which is available from System > Preferences > Fonts. Am I missing something?
- keithcu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I believe subpixel *with* hinting looks best, much better than without.
- gookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Here are my screenshots.
Before: http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=before4ad.png
- Subpixel Smoothing (LCD) & Full Hinting.
After: http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=after9ue.png
- Applied the .fonts.conf and set Best Shape on Font Settings. No Hinting.
My after shots looks a bit better than the last guy, well, at least for me, nways. Prolly he's still using hinting on gnome's font settings. - jwoelich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6See, the cool thing with something like a text file is that you can open it up and READ WHAT IT DOES before you go inserting it into your operating system. So it would be pretty pointless to do.
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's actually very good now. The fonts were horrible in the early days, but they are quite nice now.
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Sorry if this seems like a plug, but this digg inspired me to post a recent font enhacement technique that was on the Dapper forums, which (for me atleast) gives way better results - atleast as good as os x on my screen. As opposed to a tweak, this is a recent patch that has yet to be commited to CVS (as far as I know), and allows the freetype engine to produce fonts that are simply impossible without the patch. Here's the URL:
http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/ClearType_Quality_Fonts_in_Dapper.
(anyway this is probably to late for anyone to see...) - ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I switched from OSX Tiger to Ubuntu not so long ago and found the fonts better looking in Ubuntu than OSX out of the box. This is kind of ironic considering auto-hinting can't be shipped with Linux distributions because Apple has patented the 'technique'.
Hinting is just icing on the cake in my opinion and not completely necessary. Font's look great in most desktop Linux distributions out of the box these days. - jwoelich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Ok, I use ubuntu...have for a couple of years now, but...
What the hell is the point of linking every goddamn interesting or useful little nugget of information about Ubuntu from their forums *here*?
http://www.ubuntuforums.org has practically everything I've seen posted on here, plus a hell of a lot more. There are tons of how-to threads on there. - cazabam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Yeah, best computer wars comment ever. If it made sense.
Time to install WinXP and get all drivers happy, mobo drivers working, office suite installed, etc. - 2.5/hours on a 2GHz Athlon XP
Time to install ubuntu to same state - 35 minutes on a PIII 800
Add to the fact that I paid nothing for ubuntu (used a dvd+rw so I didn't even use up any media) and suddenley you're asking how much 'time money' I've just wasted on TOP of hte WinXP licence fee (which was paid, thanks. no ripping off to make it a fair fight). - haxx4, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Will do.
- cazabam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Well, I've had a quick look, and to be honest the 'after' shot looks awful! I hate the way Windows (and now Linux, if you use this) has a 'blurriness' around the fonts. The subpixel rendering in Ubuntu is FAR better than in Windows, for this very reason. These before/after pictures have convinced me not to bother!
- ilitirit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Good news.
Believe it or not, one of the things that keeps me away from Linux is the crap font handling. - Klowner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Last time I had to fix one of those nagging obscure windows problems, it took me quite a bit longer to diagnose. At least I spend zero time removing malware and viruses.
- 5la5hd0tter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@bwanab: you may want to remove the period at the end of that link.
@mejogid: thanks for the link - missed it the first time on digg! - phxbruzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The Microsoft link earlier was slightly off (missed an "x" at the end). It should be
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/Step1.aspx
For some strange reason I couldn't reply to it directly so had to through a new comment down here. - spxiii, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3jwoelich: "I stand by my statement; linux is only free if your time has no value."
That is an extreme generalization. Since we're talking about linux being freely available at no cost, I assume by "value" you mean "cash value", although the one is obviously a subset of the other. In a week I have about 128 hours (if I'm lucky) of time that has no cash value. Because I enjoy linux and agree with the philosophy, I don't mind using some of that free time to learn and use it. Yet if you think about it, by making the effort to learn in my free time, I am in a sense maximizing the cash value of my 40 work hours by becoming more knowledgeable and more capable to do what I do.
So although you assume my time has no value because I use linux and call it "free", in fact it is the free nature of linux that makes my time more valuable, and by implementing linux effectively in my workplace, I optimize the value of my business in turn.
Linux may not be free for everyone, but it sure is free for me. - twowords, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7It works with any distro.
- cazabam, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10dugg you down mate. bloody trolls. you don't "need" or "have" to spend 30 minutes fixing the fonts. You can spend 4 seconds copying this file if you want to (which I don't, because I think it looks crap).
If you've nothing better to do than troll, go bury your head. - aptget, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I have mine where you go into 'Details' and select "Subpixel (LCDs)" for Smoothing, and "None" for Hinting. Looks awesome if you have a flat panel :D
- simianstyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just turn hinting all the way up in the font settings, this isn't anything to go nuts over. Also most CRT's won't see that much of a difference anyway.
- gookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Here are my screenshots.
Before: http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=before4ad.png
- Subpixel Smoothing (LCD) & Full Hinting.
After: http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=after9ue.png
- Applied the .fonts.conf and set Best Shape on Font Settings. No Hinting. - haxx4, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Or you could torrent it and not have to wait several weeks:
http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ - gookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I agree. Why post a damn digg from an article you got from techcrunch, newscientist, seedmagazine, damn interesting, boingboing, engadget, IBM, lifehacker, etc, etc, when you can just go there and surf by yourself?
- CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@cazabam
I know what you mean. I did this on my machine and it is giving me a headache! - GreatBunzinni, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I run Kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5.2 and I just found out that my .font.conf file is already covering that up. Here is the file's contents:
user@localhost:~$ cat .fonts.conf | sed -e some sed magic to substitute offending characters
< ?xml version="1.0"?> < !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
< fontconfig>
< match target="font" >
< edit mode="assign" name="hinting" >
< bool> true< /bool>
< /edit>
< /match>
< match target="font" >
< edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle" >
< const> hintmedium< /const>
< /edit>
< /match>
< /fontconfig> - alej744, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Even better: My Gentoo system is a piece of cake to install. I just edit several config files, chroot into the mounted hd partition, install portage, update my portage tree, set up devices, configure boot time config, create users, and then compile the whole system. A couple of days later - I'm good to go!
Take THAT Windows."
Wow. I hope you're joking. - untwisted, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@jwoelich
SUSE handles most of the media, mp3s, etc out of the box. Plus there are things like easyubuntu to make everything just work with the click of a button. Its about a 20 minute time commitment in the case of easyubuntu (thats assuming it takes even that long to find, download, and run easyubuntu) and whatever the install time is for a SUSE install. Just because it takes you hours to get things the way you want them doesn't mean its not possible to do it faster. I agree with you that Linux CAN be a time commitment, however it doesn't HAVE to be. - gookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have a fresh install dapper, and when this config applied...i still see the difference.
- gmikej, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Since I first posted this a few hours ago 3 more articles have appeared about Ubuntu.
I must be missing something. I'm going to have to try this out and become a fanboy. - EPeters, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Windows has gaming and Office, Linux has speed and reliability, and OS X has everything else. Nothing that I've stated here will ever change (sadly).
- philmunt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think whether you like this can also be contextual, on a fancy web page with gradients and such like digg.com most of the appeal can be lost, but try looking at a basic white background, black text basic html page vintage 1993 the fonts seem more appealing.
- drigz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I get a 404 from those URLs...
- arizonagroove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If this really a Ubuntu thing or Gnome thing that happens to be on a Ubuntu forum?
Does Gnome not anti-alias fonts by default?
I use Kubuntu and the anti-alising option for fonts is selected by default. - gookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I dunno bout you tho, but look at the headlines on "In The News" section on the BEFORE pic. You are right. The letters aren't stuck one another (sic). That's a bit confusing to read compared to the AFTER shots.
- bowe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone in kubuntu, run kconfig, under appearance and themes click on fonts. Click use antialiasing for fonts. Configure it and waalaa! I'm using full antialiasing. and RGB for subpixel hinting. Find what works best for you.
- Aninhumer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I prefered automatix to easyubuntu, but I'm not getting into any flamewars here.
They both work, and that's what matters. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/jessejoedotcom/before.png
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/jessejoedotcom/after.png
I don't see any improvement at all. Looks better without at least for me. - zeth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2When I set the "correct" DPI setting in X, and use better fonts, this is what I get (and no need for the above hack): http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3dc.png
I wrote some notes on how to do it at http://johnny.chadda.se/2006/06/02/day-one-with-ubuntu-dapper-drake/
This looks much better than the default font settings, in my opinion. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1lol im sorry I'm a linux user and I thought this was funny. I had to mod you up.
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