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- HCviolence, on 07/21/2008, -6/+43Linux developers do the best work when their pissed off.
- frontporsche, on 07/20/2008, -3/+39"... the best way to parse LinuxHaters blog is to treat it as a series of bug reports."
:) - inactive, on 07/21/2008, -1/+36thats true, but some of them just wine.
- JNudda, on 07/21/2008, -1/+24I see what you did there
- ileftfark, on 07/21/2008, -2/+24Whoa whoa whoa. Do not lump us in with the OSX crowd. We're arrogant ***** because of open source and freedom, while they're arrogant ***** because of how pretty their OS is. Totally different, man.
- hartley, on 07/21/2008, -0/+16Sad to say, if you're using it just for gaming, your 8800 will go to "waste" on linux.
- noseeme, on 07/20/2008, -6/+22Yeah, the feature rollout rate has become so rapid that there aren't enough people to think of intelligent criticisms of Linux. I find it amazing how fast they roll out features in the kernel while still keeping it relatively secure and without too many bugs.
- prammy, on 07/21/2008, -0/+15Why did you run UT2004 under wine when you have a native Linux version ?
- inactive, on 07/21/2008, -13/+26No one really HATES linux.
They hate the linux propaganda, the iphone propaganda, the OSX propaganda.
Look when you have people pushing something without accounting for it's flaws and how much work needs to be put into it...
Or attack its competitor with lies and crap without making an actual real comparison, you annoy us.
And when you annoys us, you will get hated.
And its not the product... it's YOU we hate. - SyntraFTW, on 07/21/2008, -5/+17I don't hate Linux so much as I hate Wine for it's empty promises. Everyone tells me "oh dude, switch to linux and just use wine, it'll run all your games fine!". Yeah, I got UT2004 working and thats it. Don't want my 8800 to go to waste.
- leetdood, on 07/21/2008, -5/+17What I hate that Linux zealots act like I'm making some kind of incredible mistake when they find out I'm running Windows.
- sirhomer, on 07/21/2008, -3/+12I would say Microsoft is popular despite all the hatred, not that the hatred is helping Microsoft's popularity.
- Metaleks, on 07/20/2008, -7/+16This is true. Look at all the people that hate Microsoft, and then look at how popular Microsoft is.
- jbrown101st, on 07/21/2008, -3/+11English FAIL
- inactive, on 07/21/2008, -0/+7Gnome looks nothing like OSX. If your referring to the bar being on the top like OSX, where the hell else you going to put it, there's only 4 edges on the screen. Unless someone invents a polygon shaped monitor. If they stuck it on the side than people would say it's copying after NextStep.
- FairDinkumMate, on 07/21/2008, -0/+7This is the complaint is hate about Linux as much as I hate the Linux geeks that give people crap when they are trying to learn.
If you plugged the same wireless card into a Vista PC & it didn't work, who would you blame?
Ubuntu especially(although most Linux distros now do) go to a huge amount of trouble to provide drivers or workarounds for all sorts of products whose producers don't or won't release a Linux driver or the source code so someone else can write one. If your hardware doesn't work with Ubuntu(or any OS), then your complaint should be aimed squarely at the producer of the product, not the OS(generally). - thebigshane, on 07/21/2008, -1/+7~Proud Linux user and hater
- Kingoftherings, on 07/21/2008, -0/+6And KDE is just like Windows because the Bar is on the bottom this time!
- ThePerkins, on 07/21/2008, -1/+7Anything that is relevant has a bunch of haters that keep it so.
- chrisinsocalif, on 07/21/2008, -0/+5I love Linux, I use ubuntu after many years of not using linux and pleased with the progress. My only problem with Linux is I wish they have more multimedia support so I won't have to use windows as much. Hopefully soon with the rise of popularity more software will be written and supported for linux.
- ileftfark, on 07/21/2008, -0/+5I also have a drinking prfbmlm
- pyronik, on 07/21/2008, -3/+7I am running ubuntu server on an old computer laying around and I am running familiar linux on my old ipaq h3600 pda, the amount of time i wasted getting those things to run is mind staggering ...mainly because linux isn't very intuitive. But its so much more robust than windows. I think that with any operating system it really comes down to, is it doing what I need to do well enough for me or is it worth the investment of my time to learn it. I think definitely for the next generation coming up its imperative for them to learn it... im talking little kids here. But I mean, I am on the fence about switching from windows to ubuntu even though I love linux especially since my main role is someone who does accounting and finance. The developers are great at what they do, but they need to spend more time making the transition easier and more transparent.. thats my say.
- Kratos76, on 07/21/2008, -1/+5Great thanks! ...but I read it hours earlier when it was on slashdot.
- FairDinkumMate, on 07/21/2008, -0/+4"and the support end is entirely handled by an unruly mob of bitter nerds"
Initially I thought you were for real, but the above statement shows you are just interested in bad mouthing Linux regardless of FACTS.
Professional, company based tech support is just as available for most Linux distro's(including Kubuntu) as it is for Windows or Apple OS's. Just because you downloaded an OS for free, couldn't get an item to work(which as I spoke of above relates to your hardware supplier, not the OS) and were too much of a tight arse to pay for professional support, you blame the OS!
My recommendation to you is stick to Windows, as you obviously are unprepared to put any time, effort or money into experiencing what Linux has to offer. - inactive, on 07/21/2008, -0/+4So like most bug reports it means these problems will be fixed???
- ike368, on 07/21/2008, -1/+4"No one takes that much time to point out flaws in a product that they completely loathe and despise. "
- node3, on 07/21/2008, -1/+4If your face turns blue, no.
If your screen turns blue, yes. - daftman, on 07/21/2008, -0/+3Yea I guess all those EEEpc users have to compile from the source.
- loopyloopy, on 07/21/2008, -0/+3if only i could find a working driver for my PCMCIA wireless network card
- JQP123, on 07/21/2008, -0/+3"I find it amazing how fast they rollout features in the kernel while still keeping it relatively secure and without too many bugs."
I find it amazing how little they bother to test for backward compatibility as they rollout new features.
One of the biggest advantages MS offers is consistency and compatibility. There are some exceptions but the majority of applications written for Win95 will still work under Vista. How many Linux apps (particularly GUI apps) written over a decade ago will run on the latest Linux distro?
The lack of compatibility creates a lot of on going headaches and is one of the main reasons that business adopted MS over *nix in the first place. - luzai, on 07/21/2008, -1/+3As El Jobso said: "Put it this way: when you're giving something away free, and people still don't want it, and in fact would rather spend money on something else, you've got a problem."
- FairDinkumMate, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2Because obviously gamers make up >90% of the PC market share - MORON!
- AdmiralAcbar, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2"My gun shoots ketchup!"
"Bug report!" - bdbr, on 07/21/2008, -1/+3...hmm, which comment will get buried by the Linux fans the most, this one or the "***** terrible" comment?
- Smogtdi, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2hard to hate Linux unless you try to do something you don't understand.
I have a 200$ walmart green-pc with Kubuntu 8.04 installed. This crappy low power computer is always ON for Torrents and we use it for Internet browsing.
it never failed to do what we asked so I can't hate the computer or the distro.
BUT what I LOVE is the ability to find the right application quickly using "synaptic".
example : DVD shrinker, DVD authoring freeware, AVI converters everything is a click away. For me it's a lot better then Googling through pages and pages of trial-ware crap for windows. - xerox, on 07/21/2008, -1/+31. write comment on digg
2. get dugg down
3. ????
4. profit!!! - sweetumssama, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2I'm sorry that you feel like less of an elitist geek when you use Linux now :(
- prammy, on 07/21/2008, -1/+3The reason it is not easy for you is that you are stuck on the Windows paradigm. I am not saying this in a derogatory sense, but its the same issue if you choose to use OS X as well. You have to be willing to learn a little.
Maybe if distros would release a guide for Windows / Mac users on the differences, then it might help switchers. Or maybe an icon on the desktop which connects people to a help channel on an IRC network where they can ask for help.
As someone who uses Windows, OS X and Linux on a daily basis , I do get more productive on my linux box then OS X or Windows. - caleb4mj, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2* More support for encrypted filesystems on logical volumes and RAIDs
* Better GNOME/KDE integration, I use both at the same time
* Enlightenment style window management, full screen Wine games often crash inappropriately and interfere with window management
* CLI tools like screen should be included in default desktop installs, minimal is too minimal, not Linuxy enough - daftman, on 07/21/2008, -1/+3I've just bought a motorbike and I'm wondering where my steering wheel is. I mean how the ***** am I suppose to use this thing when I don't have a steering wheel. And what the ***** is this? 2 wheels? where is my cd player? air conditioning?
This piece of ***** doesn't even have a reverse gear!!!! - chrisinsocalif, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2i know but i want MORE! I want to be less windows dependent.
- bradleyland, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2Correlation does not imply causation.
- joshreed104, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Do you three really not realize what he was doing?
- OiPunk, on 07/21/2008, -4/+6I've tried to switch to Linux multiple times. WINE and Cedega both gave me empty promises.. and even though I don't game that much anymore, I was never able to get Adobe CS3 to work through WINE, and gimp/inkscape are simply NO replacement for Photoshop and Illustrator
- cutchyacokov, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2Oh so a name for for a blob of kernel code should be inventing things now, eh? Or are you trying to say that Linus Torvalds should have invented the iPhone? That would be an enormous achievement for a kernel developer to do on the side.
Guess what? Steve Jobs didn't invent the iPhone either . . . actually if you want to get really pedantic -- and I soooo do right now -- no one at Apple "invented" the iPhone; they simply developed a smart-phone with a robust feature set and a really slick interface. The iPhone is a very cool smart-phone, but it is still just a smart-phone, and it wasn't the first to have a touchscreen, a camera, audio/video playback capabilities or any of its other features; so I fail to see how it is revolutionary. Nice phone, yes. Revolutionary phone, not so much. - MvTCracker, on 07/21/2008, -1/+3I really hated trying to install flash on Linux to watch some simple you tube videos
on the last version of gos (based on ubuntu) I did not see an option to safely remove the usb thumb drive
I think its great that you can now run virtual machines with windows
and setting up wireless was difficult - xceptionaly, on 07/21/2008, -1/+3I ran Ubuntu on my laptop for about a year, and I'm sorry to say, Linux just isn't there yet. Ultimately I just reinstalled windows because I found OpenOffice to be a sub-par substitute for the real deal. The problem is that its still too intimidating to new users. Something doesn't work or you're having driver troubles? Well, I guess you better pray that you happen to come upon the right backwater message board of people telling you to type in long string strings of obscure commands into the console. And then pray again that it works. Even basic tasks like installing or uninstalling programs is confusing and unintuitive to the uninitiated. That is assuming you even find something worth installing since no useful mainstream apps run on it, so you'll just have to get by using ghetto open-source substitutes. Either that or use Wine, which despite fanboy praise, doesn't work 10% as well as they say it does and is unreliable to say the least. Also, no games.
- DestroyFascism, on 07/21/2008, -0/+1HAving s simplified VST, MIDI controller and mapping would be good, add to that a need for Jack to incorporated in the sound system rather than a tacked on object that needs specific configuration.
Developers would take linux allot more seriously if the whole balance and architecture was designed to "plug in" anything automatically rather than adding the app to the device.
Its why windows sound, midi and vst, dxi apps work "out of the box". This is lacking in Linux and it really needs to be fixed in much the same way the openGL subsystem needs to be totally replaced. No open source driver has ever taken full advantage of 3D rendering in Linux. Only Nvidia have ever done it and not because they were the only ones who could, that is actually not the case. I often wonder if its too hard to do under the current architecture. Things like this need to be streamlined and simplified under Linux so that hardware and software vendors know exactly where to go and how to get the best out of a default system. - daftman, on 07/21/2008, -1/+2What is this Linux propaganda that you speak of?
> Look when you have people pushing something without accounting for it's flaws and how much work needs to be put into it...
Everything has flaws, even windows, Mac OS and God. Does that mean it's not worth to look at the good side of it? If you want to find Linux flaws just launchpad and look at the bug reports. Nobody is discounting that Linux has flaws.
> Or attack its competitor with lies and crap without making an actual real comparison, you annoy us.
Right, like how Balmer claimed that Linux is infringing 300+ Microsoft patent without any proof? Since Linux is open source, all the lies are automatically discovered and discredit. Show me where a significant person in the Linux community make lies. I take it that you're not familiar with the lies being pushed out by SCO, Balmer and their lackey.
>And when you annoys us, you will get hated.
Whatever. It seems that you love to hate just for the sake of hating. And it's ***** sad and pathetic that people like you devote so much of their time hating.
Linuxhater Blog is nothing but collection of rants from an idiot who troll to get attentions. Sure he has a few good points but those already falls under the no-*****-sherlock category. The rest of it are just dedicated to calling Linux developers 'luser', etc.
Every moron and his dog and hate something. Heck I can write a block on how much I hate the LinuxHaterBlog and proclaim that it's for his own ***** good. But no I rather spend my time developing and submitting bugs instead of trolling for attention. - Scott2, on 07/21/2008, -0/+1Linux needs fewer boneheads that tell everyone else what Linux needs.
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