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- Urusai, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11A microcontroller is just a CPU with integrated memory and IO channels. Which can run Linux.
- radicaldementia, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10They do, just not for desktop OS's, cause clearly they are not talking about desktop systems. FTA: "Linux is deployed in more than 25 per cent of smartphones, and is second only in popularity to the Symbian operating system (OS) in that market."
- vuke69, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8It's still safe to hate them, especially seing as how they give nothing back to the community, and violate the GPL at will.
- louiedog, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7They use it because it is the best for their needs. Yes, part of that need is low cost. If embedded xp was a better choice for HDTVs I'm sure a few bucks could easily be passed on to consumers who buy $1,500 TVs. Linux is better... for them.
- zoroko, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11Next thing you know they will be making linux powered vibrators for women.... which would be awesome to reprogram with my own lil "hello world" app....
- BlackFrost, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Also, they become fanatical and fail to see that even though linux might be good, there are still inherent problems that need to be addressed.
- ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -9/+15Somebody really needs to take these numbers into account next time they calculate the market share of each OS...
- williebee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Motorola unveils first Linux smart phone
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5067129.html - smurf22, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Most hd tvs run linux, for upscaling and downscaling.
- LastDitchHero, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Yes, yours does. Motorola also makes OTHER phones....your buried as retarded
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5No. They run Linux because it's reliable, and can be scaled to suit the application - you can leave out the parts you don't need. With Windows, it's all-or-nothing and embedded versions of Windows tend to be 10 to 30 times the size of a more funtional embedded Linux installation.
Microsoft simply don't understand the embedded market - they never have - and their "mobile" products are simply laughable. Embedded Linux isn't "free" - it takes time, skill and effort to tailor it to an application - and effective devlopers aren't cheap to hire. That said, if you're making lots of a product, you can make massive longer-term savings by not paying the Microsoft Tax. - brad3378, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Shhhhh!!! Seriously Shut up!
Do you really want women to have a vibrator that never fails?
You're going to make men obsolete! - LinuxGalore, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I think Tron is the most commonly run OS in the world, it is also Open source. Windows is the most common OS "on the PC" but when you look as OS's in conjunction with CPU's in general Microsoft is far behind.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5You have an old, junk stupidphone (not smartphone). It's probably marginally more intelligent than you, though.
- kiranlightpaw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It flies on airplanes, too. :P
http://blogs.intel.com/it/2007/05/flying_penguins.html - MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Because when they worship it, it usually means them turning any conversation about computers into an argument about which OS is better.
- vuke69, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Don't say that too loud, Diebold is likely to arrange for you to have an "accident".
- brad3378, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3How about an open source Linux based voting machine?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4if you are ever at a bar and see those touch screen games that are really popular, ive seen one turn on it runs some form of linux.... pretty much every bar has one nowadays. also at wawa (sorry if you aren't from the northeast since you wont know what that is) their hoagie ordering machines run linux as well
- MackPrime, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yamaha instruments? My piano does linux ?
- louiedog, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3And by extension, anyone who buys an ipod from one of those vending machine is using Windows. I've seen them reboot, it's XP.
- dchomper, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The last time I checked my Tvix HD-M5100 networked media player it runs embedded Linux for the Sigma designs chip. The same holds for many other network media devices including the Mvix series, etc.
My Linksys WRT-54GL router also runs linux, the Tomato firmware. http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato - SteveMax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Windows Mobile is quite popular in the US, but Symbian and Linux are much bigger in other markets, such as Europe, Japan, India and China. The global market share of WM is quite small.
- z33Tec, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Instead of Hello World it would be Hello.. well, you know...
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sure go ahead. You can count all the PDA and smart phones that Windows have and its number is still insignificant compared to the embedded linux devices. This include, routers, modems, cameras, dvd players, portable music players, TVs, micro web servers, etc. Go on, I'm waiting.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Just like the majority of all Windows users... The same is not true of the vast majority of Linux users.
- etnu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3So? They're also "using" Linux any time they watch television (assuming that they have cable or satellite), make a credit card transaction, or view a web page.
If you look at the total worldwide market share of all operating systems in every device on the planet, Linux probably comes in second or third. Windows isn't even in the running. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3All the big name motor racing teams use embedded Linux engine management. This is now becoming available in domestic vehicles. Microcontrollers can easily run embedded Linux.
- JQP123, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"Microcontrollers can easily run embedded Linux." It takes a fairly substantial microcontroller to run Linux. Even if your microcontroller can run Linux, you'd need a good reason to invoke all the overhead associated with a full blown, general purpose OS. In a strictly controlled environment such as vehicle management, about all the designers really *need* in the way of an OS is a decent task scheduler. It's possible to take Linux and cut it down to this size but what's left is just a little piece of what most people call Linux. In many cases, it makes more sense to just use something that was built from the ground up specifically for this type application. There are several Open Source options.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5If you do then you will have to count the mobile version of windows as well.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1in terms of PDA phones not smart phones the figure for Windows Mobile is 44% as stated in Microsoft's own Annual report.
- kingmoffa, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If I was ever going to vote using a machine, I woudn' trust anything that was not open source and been in use reliably for a substantial length of time.
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If it's digital, yes.
- xlocust, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2actually it is a modified BSD kernel from what i understand
- manitoba98xp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Really? As much as I may dislike it, I find it hard to believe that Windows Mobile is third.
- MavRevMatt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3So...Linux for grocery store checkout?
- tech10171968, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Ditto what the two previous posters said, especially mictester. The typical MS fanboy doesn't like to talk about this, but reliability is a HUGE reason to use Linux when you have a device (server, slot machine, etc.) which has to run for days, weeks, even months on end without having to reboot every couple of days or so; this kind of uptime is impossible with MS products. That could be why NASA's projects are powered by *nix machines. When you are stuck 15 miles above the Earth with limited life support, the BSOD is the LAST thing you really want to see.
Besides, smartass, more than half the web pages you visit are being served up by *nix systems. There's a reason for that... - Stormflux, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Well, to be fair, that's what worship means. Just look at how religious arguments turn out.
- scabbers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1My phone (L7e) runs linux as far as I can tell. I didn't choose that, it just came that way.
- init100, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"When you are stuck 15 miles above the Earth"
15 miles is only about 24 km. Low Earth Orbit (LEO) is between 200 and 2000 km above the Earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Earth_orbit - Wreef, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Safeway (big grocery store in Australia) use Windows Embedded.
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That's a great opportunity to add more functionality to them, isn't it?
But I get the feeling TVs in the near future will be networked anyway, along with connectors for portable devices and who know what's else will come out by then. Gesture-based remote controls? 3D contact lenses? - Aninhumer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1While there are many problems with Linux at the moment, very few of them are "inherent" problems.
Mostly the problems are to do with drivers and applications, which aren't inherent to Linux.
I'm sure there *are* some inherent problems, I just don't think they're the main issues people have. - mbthompson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Most grocers use a form of Windows Embedded.
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Tomato firmware is very nice.
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Diebold - Microsoft - Republicans. It just seems like they're all in it together. The NWO.
- mbthompson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You're, not your! Damnit people!
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Well does it matter? I mean your a MS fanboy so figure it out!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6Sony uses Linux? Hang on, I am a bit confused. Am I meant to hate them or like them now?
- djmadness, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0My WRT-54G runs DD-WRT - Embedded linux rocks
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