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- thedragon4453, on 11/15/2007, -10/+141If you were just comparing the OS's, then I do think that Ubuntu is better. However, if you strictly talking about what you can do on each OS, then I'd not take that bet. MS's market share is still such that there is bound to be something for which there is no equivalent on Linux.
- Blafhert, on 11/15/2007, -27/+146I hope this guy isn't into audio and video editing. Otherwise, he will lose...
- rudy23, on 11/15/2007, -11/+100I hope he isnt into drm. otherwise he will lose
- Chewie67, on 11/15/2007, -41/+118Watch a DVD?
Watch a BluRay DVD?
Watch an HD DVD?
Run Photoshop?
There's a pretty long list... - hasahugedig, on 11/15/2007, -7/+78What type of stupid bet is that? It doesn't even involve "suck my balls."
- ManM, on 11/15/2007, -7/+74I think he should surf the web using a usb connection to a Windows Mobile device with Internet Sharing, while watching his favorite TV channel on your ATI All-in-Wonder video card. Surely Ubuntu would have no trouble supporting that out of the box.
Or, if that is too far out there, here is another one: Listen to music through his Yahoo Music Unlimited subscription. - cathars1s, on 11/15/2007, -11/+67iTunes store, Dreamweaver, photoshop, speech recognition?
- DangerMouse9, on 11/15/2007, -16/+70To quote maddox (but use it in regards to ubuntu/*nix systems)
The one thing a windows user can do that the Ubuntu user can't is shut the ***** up. - NeoCortex, on 11/15/2007, -10/+62Vista is perfectly stable. In fact, I'm using it righ
- drjekelmrhyde, on 11/15/2007, -2/+42Watch Netflix "Watch it now" or Download from that new NBC site
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -19/+59Is it just me or are Ubuntu fan boys just as bad if not worse then apple fan boys?
- NSMike, on 11/15/2007, -0/+37I think the conditions of the bet are that it would have to be something he would normally do. I wouldn't take that bet otherwise.
- localzuk, on 11/15/2007, -2/+38'Running Photoshop' isn't doing something - editing images to the same level as photoshop would be though. Else they could just turn round and say 'I couldn't run $crappy windows program, I win, pay up sucker.
- quintusfabius, on 11/15/2007, -16/+51Microsoft's main advantage IS their market share. The main reason I use windows for most things is simply because most people do, I'm used to it and can be the most compatible with other computers. Howabout this for something you can only do with windows, run applications/documents designed for windows, like most stuff out there...
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -12/+47Here's one. Run thousands of historic and current commercial and home grown applications.
- Tyr7BE, on 11/15/2007, -4/+37"Install new codecs in under 1 minute.."
Double-click on a file, a little window pops up, saying "you don't have the right codec, I'm gonna go get it for you. Is that cool?" You click ok, and off it goes, and you're watching your video in well under a minute.
"Easily Install any program that is not already included with Ubuntu ( the linux installation process is still a pain in the ass )"
To install a web browser: Open up "Add or Remove Programs" from the main menu, click on the "internet" section, select the web browser, and click the big "install" button. Holy ***** that was hard.
"Run Photoshop, or anything nearly as good as photoshop.."
Some would say GIMP does the trick. Realistically I think you're just playing devil's advocate, but not very well. Can you honestly say you need the features that photoshop provides that GIMP can't do (ie, CMYK colourspaces)? Or are you just trying to remove red-eye from your vacation photos?
"Play any good game.."
World of Warcraft?
"Install drivers for any product that is not on the driver list.."
I haven't bought a single piece of hardware in the last 5 years that hasn't worked out of the box with linux. I bought an APC UPS the other day (since it seems the OP is a bit computer challenged, I feel I should elaborate a bit here and say UPS stands for "Uninterrupted Power Supply", ie, battery backup for my computer). A relatively obscure piece of hardware. But sure enough, I plug it into my computer and the little UPS icon pops up, and it just works right out of the box, just like I expect. Same thing has gone for my Wireless G PCMCIA card, and my USB 2.0 PCMCIA adapter. Plug it in, start using them. No config required whatsoever.
It sounds like you've never actually tried any of this stuff before, but you found a list of what was wrong with Linux in 2001 and coughed it back up. That's cool though. Computers are hard, and trolling is fun, so best to just stick to what you know, you know? - LordSkywalker, on 11/15/2007, -5/+37Win the bet easily. Try sticking in a random Wifi USB card and see if you can get on the net within a few minutes, like you can on Windows. Or better yet, complain that you tried to get a BSoD, but just can't seem to do so.
- r00tus3r, on 11/15/2007, -6/+36Watch a DVD? How about no. I do that on linux all the time. BLUray and HD-Dvd support is also availabe. And the question should be , 'edit images', to which the answer would be GIMP.
- aliengoods, on 11/15/2007, -2/+30First, who still uses a floppy?
Second, automount takes care of all other media (at least that I can think of). - ucg1, on 11/15/2007, -1/+27WINE allows Linux to do Windows apps and more. Why exclude it? It's part of what makes Linux a better choice.
- DashingLeech, on 11/15/2007, -1/+26Yes, otherwise "Generate a BSOD by trying to open a Word Document" would count as something you can do in Windows but not Ubuntu Linux.
- gurellia53, on 11/15/2007, -0/+24If its a fault of linux that it can't run photoshop, then its a fault of windows that it can't run Linux software.
- ucg1, on 11/15/2007, -2/+25Well no *****, I think that was kinda the point.
Oh, and WINE is Not an Emulator. - Wrathernaut, on 11/15/2007, -1/+24A lot of people normally get spyware and viruses.
I've been unable to do this on my Ubuntu installation. - speel, on 11/15/2007, -4/+26How about web cam conferencing on aim
- 10001110101, on 11/15/2007, -3/+25Simple: buy any Lexmark PSC. Make it work.
- logiktrip, on 11/15/2007, -0/+22"If on the other hand, I lose, I have to pay for his new laptop."
Reading is fun. - geoken, on 11/15/2007, -7/+28Create a CS3 .fla file.
- TomFrost, on 11/15/2007, -5/+26How do things like "Run Photoshop" even apply? Photoshop is a windows program -- that's like saying Windows wins because it can run MS Paint natively and Linux can't, or Microsoft Solitaire. The key is to find Linux software that is comparable to what you once used on Windows, like The Gimp for example. The Gimp can handle everything Photoshop can, apart from CMYK. So if this guy doesn't do print design, The Gimp will cover all of his graphic editing needs.
- ManM, on 11/15/2007, -5/+26The side of honesty? Seriously, let's not pretend that Ubuntu is up to speed with Windows.
- zeejay, on 11/15/2007, -1/+21The highest-end video and film tools on the market run on Linux, not Windows. If you need to ask the price, you can't afford them.
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?id=10052 ... - inactive, on 11/15/2007, -5/+25http://sourceforge.net/projects/ossrp/
- TomFrost, on 11/15/2007, -2/+21What's a floppy?
Seriously, though -- I'm not sure when you last used Linux, but trying ANY of the mainstream distributions (especially Ubuntu), you won't find any differences between what Windows does automatically and what Linux does automatically. Actually, Ubuntu is *better* as far as being automatic goes, because it has far more drivers built-in and ready to run than Vista does. It doesn't even bring up a "wizard" -- the device just works.
As evidenced by a Digg submission yesterday, Wal-Mart's sold many cheap Linux systems to people who otherwise wouldn't have/learn to use a computer, and lots of people's grandmas were able to pick up on it almost immediately. Linux isn't where it was 10, 5, or even 1 year ago. It's not fair to bash it based on incredibly old information. - maxtypezero, on 11/15/2007, -5/+24this story is so poorly worded
anyway, MS guy is going to win because there is a lot of stuff you can't do on Ubuntu that you can do on Windows - Hipple, on 11/15/2007, -8/+27If I were going to get a new laptop anyway, I wish I could trick my friends into offering to pay for it. He has 30 days to find one thing, and he gets a free laptop. If he doesn't find it, he was going to buy a new laptop anyway. How is this a gamble?
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -1/+20The rules:
1. I have to post any and all questions I have about installing and using Ubuntu on this forum.
2. I have to save all of my correspondence.
3. I cannot use any other OS for 30 days, except for my computer at work.
4. If I can demonstrate that Ubuntu isn’t neck to neck with Microsoft in anyway, I win.
5. I have to use open source software as much as possible. If there is no equivalent, then I get to use MS software, but using some sort of emulation software to run it on. (Buddy said I’d have to learn about it here).
6. My friend wanted me to use Feisty, but I told him to step up to the plate, so it’s going to be Gutsy. (I figure since it’s new, it must have lots of issues, so the better for me).
By announcing the bet, the poster has already guaranteed a better response from the community.
Any application of rule #5 would be a victory under rule #4. Having to emulate Windows to get something done would be showing that Ubuntu is not neck to neck with Windows. - anschelsc, on 11/15/2007, -8/+27Actually, almost all office documents can be opened with Linux, and most apps (except games) have equivalents.
- Tyr7BE, on 11/14/2007, -1/+17Ohhh yeah. That's a great idea. Let's give some guy who's used to Windows a Slackware install. Jesus christ what's wrong with you people? A default slack installation would take WEEKS of fine tuning to even approach the level of usability that Ubu gives by default.
- emorphien, on 11/15/2007, -3/+19He knows that you idiot.
- spz104, on 11/15/2007, -5/+20Imagine if it was an experienced linux user being convinced to switch to Vista. It would be obvious very quickly that Vista could not match the functionality for things a linux user is used to. Windows makes things fairly easy for a passive user, OK for my parents, not for me.
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -1/+16Long as the desktop OS connects to the network server shares, why does it matter if the user is on Ubuntu, Windows or even OSX for that matter?
- lostinbrave, on 11/15/2007, -3/+18Wine isn't an emulator its compatibility level. Emulator recreate the system, compatibility layers alow their programs to run.
- Bostocks, on 11/15/2007, -3/+17The use linux to render hollywood movies because autodesk maya is availalbe for linux, and they can spare the cost of an os across their render farm. But video and sound editting is done on pc or mac workstations. Apple and Adobe are kings in the sound and video editting software world, and neither build for linux.
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -9/+23Um, copy/paste seemlessly between all applications?
- mustbepatient, on 11/15/2007, -2/+16Nope, sorry, but Apple's fans are the worst.
- NJank, on 11/15/2007, -1/+15if developing .net 2.0 websites is the only thing prevented by using Linux, let's switch the world over to linux. fast.
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -20/+34Using Wine to run any software would be effectively admitting that Ubuntu is not neck to neck with Windows. A true contest would be "No emulating Windows."
- TheHydrogens, on 11/15/2007, -7/+20A. Who uses floppy disks anymore? You can get a flash drive for a negligible amount of money, and Ubuntu will find that just fine.
B. I can't even verify that you have to mount floppy disks because I can't find a computer that still has a floppy drive.
C. I find it very hard to believe that a computer that still has a floppy drive is even capable of running Windows Vista. - inactive, on 11/15/2007, -2/+15I don't understand Linux users bashing each other's distros.
- aaronm67, on 11/15/2007, -0/+13It's not compatible with OneNote, but Basket (http://basket.kde.org ) is a very good note-taking app.
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