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- chris9902, on 10/11/2007, -29/+442A girl near Linux? marked as inaccurate.
- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -54/+346The real reason people don't switch to Linux:
Why switch away from an operating system you're satisfied with? - NickMilne, on 10/11/2007, -35/+225The real reason people don't switch to Linux is that they just don't give a *****. I know I don't.
- mranime, on 10/11/2007, -3/+156Mirror: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/mranime1/comic39.jpg
- PhinnFort, on 10/11/2007, -18/+167Lies.
Of course Maya runs on Linux.
http://www.alias.com/eng/support/maya/qualified_hardware/QUAL/maya_70_linux.html - morningblur, on 10/11/2007, -24/+133Amendment to title: the real reason graphic designers with a specific software set don't switch to linux.
The average person doesn't use Photoshop or Maya, sorry. - ThinkRad, on 10/11/2007, -21/+101Agreed. Though between Paint.NET, the GIMP and Blender it seems like you could be a productive artist regardless of OS. The only thing really holding me back is gaming and game level editors are basically no-shows on Linux.
- bitcloud, on 10/11/2007, -25/+74on ubuntu? I don't think I saw that on the list...
I tried, but I think I probably lost my enthusiasm prematurely (something about $300 worth of man hours attempting to "install" it :)
of course its SIMPLE! starting with:
sudo dpkg -i awcommon-server_9.5-2_i386.deb
sudo dpkg -i awcommon_9.5-2_i386.deb
sudo dpkg -i maya7-0_7.0-375_i386.deb
and ending a few pages later (possibly... Depending on your particular hardware, you might have some luck... and if you say "it's easy" you're missing the point)
Alias is actually one of the few companies making an effort, but there's still a long way to go - bitcloud, on 10/11/2007, -23/+58Ammentments 2: The real reason people who care what software they use don't use linux, while people who don't care, don't care... (and why should they?)
Maya is a hell of alot easier than any other software to run on linux, and *even then* it's difficult to install and installs a percentage of the time (depending upon your particular linux flavour and hardware configuration)... For any other software it's downhill from there...
Theres honestly not an industry I can think of that doesn't require specific software in some capacity or another. Linux needs to plug and play support emulating software or otherwise figure out how to run MS software out of the box to succeed.
NEVER say:
"you don't NEED sofware X... use software Y instead" (yes, we DO need software X)
NEVER say:
"Software X is easy to install... you just have to (insert convoluted installation instructions for X and it's accompanying drivers and utilities here)"
If you do, at least understand that you're helping linux fail. - khiz, on 10/11/2007, -11/+44You can tell only geeks run Linux. They start telling you how easy it is and give you 20 lines of code to make one thing work.
Read the digg article on Verizon help desk guy. http://www.scribd.com/doc/49542/funniest-exit-interview. Even if this is a hoax I can tell you that large call centers are there for a reason. Most people who us a computer don't have a clue about what they are doing much less configuring it.
To get to mainstream, it's all about ease of use. - schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -18/+48Maya runs in Linux natively (it's originally a UNIX app) and Photoshop can also be run, using some emulation software. I prefer using the GIMP, not Photoshop and Paintshop, which I've used for years.
- githoc, on 10/11/2007, -7/+32@Fartaq
The cost was not really ignored because no one can argue that you have to pay for Windows. I'm sure most people would like things for free but are quite happy to pay for them if it suits there need.
I pay for food - I could grow it myself
I pay to live in a house - I could build it myself but it would still cost money unless I chopped doen the trees with my flint axe and held it together with string made from platting my hair
Paying for things is a fact of life. It doesnt make it wrong. - githoc, on 10/11/2007, -37/+59@Fartaq
The cost of the product was only one thing you mentioned.
EULA - never restricted me in anything I do
WGA - I don't steal software so it doesnt bother me
DRM - it allows me to play DRM content if I choose
Phoming home - I don't steal software so it doesnt bother me
Can't share it - I paid for it so buy your own copy if you want it.
Can't find out what its doing - I don't care what its doing as long as it lets me do what I want
Cant modify it - what for? It works.
Can't upgrade without authorizing - I have upgraded many time without any problems. The worse thing I have had to do was make a 2 minute phone call
etc, etc
As I said this doesn't affect the majority of people so do you have some better reasons - githoc, on 10/11/2007, -9/+29@Fartaq
You still haven't given any reasons other than the same old childish drivel that the majority of people don't care about. - balerhgae, on 10/11/2007, -10/+30*sigh* These ***** INCESSANT Apple vs. Linux vs. Windows threads are why DIGG just ***** blows donkey balls. Give it up, geeks! Just ***** enjoy something for once.
- telair, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20Dilbert's mom agrees
http://imagespar.com/view.php?img=2a6c08303d2d3b9bb246e4a1d5b13a5b - epgyd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+21@jay
GET TO THE GODDAMN POINT! - Sabin, on 10/11/2007, -5/+23"Gimp can cut it for a person that designs (especially those in multimedia) for income."
Really? Show me how you handle a 6 colour multichannel file (CMYK + 2 spots) and then convert it to a CMYK file all while maintaining accurate colour representation on screen. There is more to design than the web and soon as you try to move to paper you will see most linux apps fall flat on their face. I will play around with the Gimp but I work in Photoshop. - etnu, on 10/11/2007, -5/+23It's not like professional artists overwhelmingly choose Windows, either.
- cynicist, on 10/11/2007, -8/+25So you don't use Linux because it isn't a free open-source version of windows?
- estvir, on 10/11/2007, -9/+26GIMP is GUI hell, I tried to use it and it was just an abomination.
- Why does the program seem to run in different instances, like each 'window' has it's own instance on the bottom panel.
- Why can't I just click on one of them and have the whole app brought forward to the foreground like with Photoshop
- Why is it ugly.
I tried to use it, I really did, but man.. you guys really dropped the ball with GIMP.
Is there something like Paint.net for Linux ?
And please, Windows users for the most part can't even configure IE to work with their ISP let a lone do half the stuff 'required' on many Linux distros. - pidey, on 10/11/2007, -27/+44@Julolidine
Well one of the things wrong with what you said there is... copy/paste works differently in the command line, and most people don't know how to do it besides ctrl-c / ctrl-v
So the thought process goes something along the lines of
Huh? I have to enter this strange command into a "console" I think I remember something called a console in the applications menu, I'll open that up.
Ok... first enter sudo bash, and then enter password
*enters*
That was easy enough, lets see what the next step is.
Hmm, enter *Insert ungodly long command here* into the prompt. Hmm, I had better copy/paste it, lets see... highlight, ctrl-c, go back to console, ctrl-v.....? Its not there. Ctrl-V Ctrl-V Ctrl-V ??? WTF? Its not there... I now have to type this ungodly long command by hand? *spends five minutes entering command with a single mistake* It didn't work, Linux sucks. - rssej, on 10/11/2007, -7/+21Gimp can cut it for a person that designs (especially those in multimedia) for income. And you need more that photoshop, theres also illustrator, flash, flex, dreamweaver, indesign, after effects, final cut (or premiere for windows users) you have to consider. This is just my reasoning. Im satisfied with os x; i would like to have an alternate linux pc if adobe would consider seriously developing for linux. I wish more developers would do so, it's not linux's fault that developers dont want invest the cash.
- PhinnFort, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16Well, for once they could cooperate with Canonical, like for example Sun is doing regarding Java. Clicky clicky install.
And I once borrowed a Maya license from a graphical designer I know, and installed in like that *snap* (under Gentoo, but still...) - consonance, on 10/11/2007, -8/+21@schestowitz
You can enjoy the GIMP and that's fine, but if you try to convince professional graphic designers that it's better than Photoshop, don't expect much success; the two programs are each suited to different needs, with the former for more straightforward images due to a lack of advanced features that the latter has incorporated. In this case, the latter is a clear winner in its arena and itself is a testament to the success of Adobe for the last ten years. While it's clear that GIMP is no Photoshop, it is more than an able MS Paint and in any case, despite alleged fundamental interface problems, GIMP developers should be commended for their achievement. - krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -16/+291) you pay for windows when you buy a computer. it costs you anywhere from $70-400 depending on how much MS stuff comes pre-bundled.
2) maya works fine on linux (i've used it myself).
3) all of you sissies whine about photoshop and i bet only 1 of every 10,000 people on digg have actually purchased photoshop. you're not entitled to photoshop, but you may freely download gimp. the only reason so many people use photoshop over gimp is that photoshop is so easily pirated. i do realize that gimp sucks, but if adobe made it harder to pirate, people wouldn't be crying about photoshop so much.
4) OO writer is retardedly better than MS word.
5) using the "DRM works with windows" argument is like having the ability to survive by eating feces. i don't think that's anything to brag about.
the only real deficiencies of linux apps are
1) a proper ftp-ascii editor (because configing emacs sucks, and bluefish is stupidly buggy) that is as simple as dreamweaver
2) no comparative OO spreadsheet being crappier than excel
3) OO presentation being crappier than powerpoint - GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17Wow, 2007 is early 2000's seemingly. They have changed the number line itself in 2080 seemingly.
- eexlebots, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15"
Also if you have to type in 5 commands to install maya, and you think thats hard(you realize you can install multiple packages at once right?). You probably arent too qualified to run maya on linux.
"
I is that kind of elitist crap that turns people off from the thought of even attempting to run Linux. - jtorkbob, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14Maybe it's better now, but Maya used to be no joy to install on Windows, either. A lot of it was the license stuff, but still. It's a complicated program, very powerful, lots of potential issues.
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12On the API's. Nearly all Linux systems will have X11, GTK+ and GStreamer out of the box these days. What more do you need.
Instead of trying to force Linux distributions into one mould what we need is something like a 'Linux Standard Base' where distros can:
1. Choose to be LSB compliant out of the box.
2. Choose to be LSB compliant after an update*
3. Ignore LSB altogether and do things their own way
1 is clearly where the corporate environment is at. 2 could be for home users though they'd likely be satisfied with 1 as well, it would probably be more used by power user type people. 3 are the specialist distros and uber geek ones like Arch, Gentoo and Slackware.
If only there were ongoing efforts to achieve this, well we might actually get somewhere. But no, can't see there ever being momentum to attempt a LSB.
Turning the automatic sarcasm rifle off for a second. What we need to look for is a LSB for gaming. We have most of the needed libraries for gaming but don't have a unified environment with tools built around it as such.
*perhaps some sort of automation could be used so that an LSB app automatically installs that distros LSB environment. - spaceman77, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12I run dual boot xp and ubuntu. Share the computer with my wife.
We need access to adobe products (indesign, dreamweaver) and word/excel.
can't use open office all the time because we need to send document to others and sometime OO will send a microsoft format that word/excel says is not acceptable. I use OO for my own documents.
Why use Ubuntu Linux?
1. It doesn't slow down over the months like windows xp (I reformat XP every 6 months beacause I like the crisp, speedy feel of a new XP install) and I know how to maintain xp (reg mechanic, window washer, use firefox etc)
2. XP is invulnerable to Malware. I have guests that use the computer who have bad internet habits (using ie and visiting sites that use malware to infect the system.
3. I never have to use pirated software (which can be infected)
4. I want to support other operating systems that loosen Microsofts control over the market. M$ needs some healthy competition
5. It is free
6. and like Mark Shuttleworth said once (look out I am paraphrasing not quoting) When open source projects reach a critical mass or threshold in their development, the innovations can be fantastic.
I don't hate Microsoft, Apple, or Linux, they are all fine systems. Why do people get into the dichotomy of "this is good/that is bad" with OS's seems kinda myopic
4. You have more control over it's configurations
When I use my Ubuntu partition I enjoy great speed, simplicity and stability and enjoy knowing I am part of a movement with good intentions.
Remember Linux is a work in progress and those of us who were there 5 and 10 years ago can see the leaps and strides Linux has made and all you have to do is plot the trajectory, extrapolate and see the future and the future for Linux is effin' amazing.
There is no Year of the Linux Desktop, it is happening slowly all the time.
Why do you think Microsoft is so excited about Linux.
Steve Balmer keeps looking in his rear view mirror and says "Damn that penguin is catching up on me!"
Spaceman - JonForTheWin, on 10/11/2007, -22/+32Maya runs (and well) on GNU/Linux.
Marked as inaccurate. - ucdbunny, on 10/11/2007, -16/+26yes it is, unfortunately I currently have to use open office word because I reformatted my computer and no longer have microsoft office cds, its the biggest piece of ***** ever, and it sucks because I have to do my writes up on campus or anything involving excel. Openoffice is garbage. People say you can run this and that on linux but you have to go through a ***** of hassle and most of the time it will not work unless you find some holy grail command online, not something a regular user is going to put up with.
- centauri, on 10/11/2007, -12/+22I love it when people connote Ubuntu and linux....
Also if you have to type in 5 commands to install maya, and you think thats hard(you realize you can install multiple packages at once right?). You probably arent too qualified to run maya on linux. I'm sorry, linux isnt for everyone, niether is windows. I run Photoshop CS2 on linux, via wine, though honestly, i like the workflow of GIMP, if i need to do print work, i need CMYK though. Maya on linux works fine. Sure Its not as easy as breathing, but somehow i think i can manage. Besides, i like Blender better anyway.
Yeah, i have a bit of a grumble with the ubuntu community, they are great linvangelists, but they are perverting FOSS if you ask me. that and they are the linux version of mac users. I hate mac users. eesh... I'm sorry for the rant, but it makes me mad to see all these articles on how great ubuntu is, or how crappy ubuntu is, or how linux(and when they say linux they mean ubuntu) is ready for the desktop. rarely do you see +REAL+ Linux news, like interviews with kernel developers, or A cross section of distrobutions, or maybe coverage of linux conventions. Maybe something other than a bunch of ubuntu fanboys in a circle jerk....... - drag, on 10/11/2007, -12/+22Silly. Both Photoshop and Maya can run under Linux.
Maya has a native version of Linux. It's widely used.
Photoshop can be installed through Wine.
http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=photoshopcs
For CS the 'difficult' instructions are:
"Type wine /pathtocdrom/setup.exe to install Photoshop.
Type wine photoshop.exe in the installation directory to run Photoshop."
The real reason that people don't run Linux is becasue 50% of everybody only has a barest grasp of what a 'operating system' is. While 40% of them don't even have that. They use what they buy on their computer and when that gets infested with spyware and other crap they just go out and buy another computer.
Folks, you have to know what a operating system is, what Linux is, what is the advantages to Linux, how to find a ISO image, how to download a ISO image, how to burn a ISO to a disk, to even get to the point were your ready to install it. This is beyond the means of the vast majority of the computing public.
They can't read documentation, they don't know how to use google to search for solutions to their problems. They don't know what wine is, they don't know what drivers are. If they have problems with Linux there are no local computer shop that supports it. There is no 'Geek Squad' there is nothing like that.
Most people will just take what they are given with only putting the most minor amount of effort into it. They are given Windows, they don't have a choice, (except for wealthier yuppies that prefer macs) so that is what they use. - Furioshonen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Ok, The real reason that I am switching to open source. Its the small print. I have been using Mac and Windows for the last 16 years, from the Mac IIgs, to my current IMac. From my first Pentium II Gateway, to my last AMD 64 beast. However, all of that hardware has become obsolete because the operating systems that ran on them is no longer supported. To get relevant software you really need too re install linux on those old machines or just have them slowly become obsolete. Why? Open source. If you can't have the code you can't make improvements, you can't make the little things you need to keep your machine relevant. All it takes is one printer, one scanner, one piece in the puzzle to break down and your are forced to upgrade your whole computer to the new operating system... I have lost so much information this way, and lost so much money going from one operating system to the next. I have Linux friends who have their old machines still running and relevant... not as flashy as today's stuff, but their 8 year old machines work, and mine do not. Why? Open sourced community. When they needed that one driver for their new printer, they could either write it themselves, or some other generous person would post it for the world. What drivers do you know of that are being written for windows 95? Could you upgrade windows 95 with new GUI's to make it look like Vista but still run all your applications? You can on some builds of Linux.... I know If I could do it all over again, I would have started with Linux, and I would still be using it today.
- nukem996, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Ummm Maya is available for Linux and Photoshop runs under Crossover. Plus people that say they "need" Photoshop should really see if GIMP could work for them. I know alot of people that download photoshop just to resize images and do some simple image editing, both of which could be done just as easily in GIMP. But they would rather use an illegal copy since they "know it better"
- cheshire137, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12@chris9902: Pff, I'm a girl and have been using Linux as my main operating system for 6 years.
- daftman, on 10/11/2007, -19/+27"1) I don't want to get involved in an OS where there is a desktop war going on. I'd rather not mess with having to choose between KDE and Gnome, and have to deal with software built for one or the other." You should stop using computers altogether as there is an os war between linux windows and mac. Wait until everything settle down and some stranger can make a choice for you and decide what you use.
"2) I'm sorry, but I don't want to have to install a bunch of libraries through some package manager just to install some software. Why doesn't everyone get together and start using the same common libraries? Include a few libraries with your software, but both Mac OS X and Windows can run additional software without installing three million additional libraries."
I'm sorry but you know nothing bout windows or linux. Linux do share libraries. Linux share libraries much more than efficient that microsoft. The only reason you don't see much libraries install on your ms software is that you don't see anything during the microsoft installation. It's hidden away from retard users like you. I wrote for both linux and ms software and I know for a fact we have to ship more libraries with ms than linux. We placed all of it in your system32 folders that you never bother to look and questions. Sometimes there are even versioning problem when some other software already place an older version of the same library.
Nobody is preaching to you to use linux. It's your choice. I don't care if you use linux, windows, or mac. Just don't spread ***** for users who are actually trying to make a choice.
"3) WINE isn't good enough. It's glitchy. No, I won't use GIMP/Amarok/whatever else. I have my existing workflow already. If Linux people want to tell me why I shouldn't be using commercial software instead of writing code that helps me get work done with my tools under Linux, then I have no interest in switching. Either get companies to port their software, or get WINE working better."
No *****, wine is not a windows replacement. If you want to use windows then use windows. Wine is for people who love using linux but have to get some legacy software or games running on windows.
"4) Don't just standardize your programming API's, release a really good API. Apple has Cocoa and it's technologies, Microsoft has .Net. Linux doesn't have a powerful API to center things on. At least with Mac OS X and Windows, when you write a program, you know what API's the user is going to have on their machine that you can link against. With Linux, it's a crap shoot."
Again reading this indicate that you know absolute jack ***** about linux and its operating system.
.NET is a ***** framework, not API/ Calling .NET an API is like calling RoR an API.
Linux have api. go read "advance linux programming" to see how system running under linux work.
If you want to do GUI programming read either GTK2+ or Qt4
Graphics programming, read opengl
Hardware programming, read the kernel doc
"If Linux wants to start to be taken more seriously, they need to start focusing on the needs of users rather than open software ideals or why one window manager is better than another."
If you want to be taken more seriously, do more research and find out why large companies like IBM, dreamworks are using linux. There are billions of users around the world. Different users have different needs. WHo the are you to determine which users need what? That's why there are choices on linux.
Imagine having no choice in what car you drive. That's what it is with windows. They make all the decision for you, Go back and join your flock. - jm9206755, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9"...doesn't have stable APIs..."
That is where I stopped. Your talking out of your ass. - manicallday, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8If you don't like open office then try abiword.
- OrangeTide, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12OS wars is just more chest beating pissing contests that start at about junior high and follow people through the rest of their lives. It's so incredibly boring that I look for something to bash my head in every time it comes up. It's not even fun to mock any more.
Grow up, just because I don't use Windows you don't have to take some sort of personal offense at it. - gfnw, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9The average person doesn't use Photoshop.
The average person isn't a graphic designer. - RunningRabbit, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14You know, there is one thing people tend to omit. Everyone talks about the fact that Linux software is free but.... how about the fact that a huge amount of Windows users get all their software for free too? Sure it's illegal, but it seems that a whole lot of people out there don't give a flying *$%& about whether it's legal or not.
So don't compare that "oh well Linux is free". Windows is, technically for some, free. So it's free Windows vs. free Linux.
This comic makes perfect sense. Here is my experience. I decided to try and switch to Ubuntu and see how it goes. I generally just use the computer for work (I do design and web development). So I install Ubuntu, that was nice and impressively easy so it was a good start. I get in, my resolution is all messed up... had to spend a while figuring out how to install nVidia drivers and entering custom screen settings since I have a 30" widescreen. Ok, about like 40 minutes later I have that figured out and the screen looks good. I reboot, it's back to crap again so now I gotta figure out why it didn't save my changes.... ok, 20 min later figured that out, ok so 1 hour out of the way and I have functional Ubuntu with nothing on it really except pre-loaded stuff (but wobbly windows are cool). Everyone talks about Gimp, so I pop it open and try to start designing something (I normally use Macromedia Fireworks to make my website layouts and designs and Illustrator for print design). GIMP wasn't able to offer me the sort of functionality that Fireworks and Illustrator do, so I was left without software to do my work on. I also use Dreamweaver for the web development since the FTP has nice file syncronization, check-in/out, and on-the-fly page preview as I code - couldn't find an alternative. I searched around all over the place. Read up on WINE, looked like a real pain in the ass to install and use so I just scrapped it. And I'm sure there is no way I could ever have my Xbox 360 communicate with Ubuntu so I can stream movies....
Someone said "well if you want good software then how about you donate money". It's not that simple. You see, if you go and buy a piece of software then you give money and you instantly get what you need and you know what you paid for. If you just donate money, you could never actually see anything come from that money and you'll just be paying some nerd to jerk off at home doing nothing. If I donated $2000 to someone would I get Adobe-type software? Would it be worth donating that $2000 to someone, waiting forever and praying I get what I need when instead I can go pay that $2000 to Adobe and get what I need right now?
Honestly I would switch to Ubuntu in a heartbeat, I'm willing to give up some of the conveniences/familiarities of Windows for the sake of Linux domination... however, until I can do all my work from Ubuntu to earn my living, it's not really an option for me. I don't have the time, knowledge, or energy to figure out how to run all of the things that I need to run on Ubuntu. All I really need is for Adobe to make its software work on Linux.... then it's all easy from there.
Maybe one day.... - Megatog615, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11bitcloud: If you purchased Maya, you're obviously going to know how to install it in Linux with dpkg, because, you know, you're probably a graphics professional who doesn't care if it's a little different from installing on Windows.
Of course, you did buy your copy, right? - noseeme, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8No, it's been said here and I'll say it again. People don't want to learn how to use Linux. They would rather think that their "Windows computer really hates them" as an explanation for why they keep ***** it up, rather then take a few days of experimentation to try something that they might even prefer.
- powatom, on 10/11/2007, -10/+17@bitcloud
No, Linux doesn't 'need' to run Windows apps.
Developers need to make apps available for Linux. Why the hell should Linux bend over backwards to 'maybe' make something work? Surely any fool can see that 'emulating' Windows to run software is just not how Linux should proceed. WINE is great and all - but if Linux' only hope is to be a poor-man's Windows (which is not the goal, at all) - then I think you'll find that not only will MS throw their weight around even MORE, but developers will simply never develop for Linux.
Linux needs to:
a) Make a dent into the desktop market (hopefully the Dell deal with Ubuntu will drive a wedge into this market, however small).
b) Advocate the ideas around open-source development and show how using open-source does not necessarily mean devs have to lose tons of money.
c) Drive home to devs that their main concerns (lack of standards, dependencies etc) are just irrelevant. Standards exist, and dependencies exist in any development model. The GPL means that devs just don't have to pay to cross-licence libraries etc. Th GPL is a problem for many big development companies, but it seems to me that their current arguments stem from a misunderstanding about how the GPL works. - Sabin, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9@cynicist
"If you want to work on a separated image you need to be intimately familiar with the way CMYK images work. If you look at The GIMP's Layers window after separating an image, you will witness the ingenious way in which the separation is done. However, editing the image is not as simple as with commercial software like Adobe's Photoshop.
Basically, you need to work with grayscale values of each primary color (plus Black). All the tools are available, but you only get apply them layer by layer and in grayscale. "
Being able to open CMYK files and being able to work on them effectively are two very different things. If you do design for print you absolutely need to be able to work in CMYK and you most likely will need Pantone support as well. There is more to design than just websites you know. If Gimp works for you then great but you have to realize that Gimp and Linux are not for everyone. If an OS restricts my ability to work I just can't be using it which is why I run Windows. I would love to switch to Linux on my PC, I prefer it to windows in term of usability but no adobe, no switch. - Loonacy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10In other news, the REAL reason people don't switch to a Mac is because it doesn't run Autocad!
/eyeroll - Xanium4332, on 10/11/2007, -6/+13you say that you don't want to install any additional libraries/dependencies, but in Windows every time you download something, it comes with the libraries they need. EVERY application comes with them. You end up with 50 copies of a MySQL library, all slightly different, different versions, etc.. Surely it is better to have a dependency (like MySQL) to be installed once (and you don't have to do that, a package manager will do it for you), and then let every app. that needs it use it. Then you can easily update mysql throughout all the apps.
Windows - Application developers fight against each other, trying to make a better version than their rival's app.
Linux - Application developers USE each other. If someone writes an amazing xml API, another application can use it, instead of trying to write their own, better version.
In Linux people work together, not against each other.
Oh and the KDE/Gnome argument, it's called choice! -
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