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- twljagflba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+51No, but from within Linux you can read/write to other partitions on your drive(s) that are NTFS formatted (i.e. grab some files off a Windows partition when you're booted into Linux).
- Tainek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34people who dual boot, or use linux as a recovery disk
linux isnt exclusive you know... - inactive, on 12/26/2008, -0/+31This is awesome - functional NTFS brings many more users to the Linux platform.
- 98acura, on 10/12/2007, -12/+41Just from the title alone, Im guessing this allows you to read and write to a ntfs partition... Why would you want to run Linux off of a microsoft file system? Do you like fragmented drives?
- robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30^^ 800GB? Thats a lot of porn :p
- jgtg32a, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26WTF
- Wargalas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21No, this give you the ability to read and write NTFS partitions in Linux.
- SirZRX, on 10/12/2007, -31/+50i can install linux in a NTFS partition whit this thing?
- InsaneShow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21I dugg up your comment, I don't think asking a fair question deserves to be dugg down. Regardless of the issues one might get when installing linux on NTFS (fragmenting, non-stanard, non OSS, etc), it is still a question someone might have and because somebody asked it, other beginners will now know.
- prurigro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16more options aren't cancer, they're what make gnu/linux great :)
- mmazing, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Huzzah! Now I don't have to deal with 800gb of video on NTFS partititions when I switch to Linux this summer :D
- yogiincork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11yes it had to be reverse-engineered since m$ did not want to reveal the specs (I believe ;)
- gallyjh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10a quick how-to on installing it on Ubuntu, in case anyone is interested:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g - j3one, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I dual boot because I am an avid gamer. But I love working on web-dev stuff and relaxing to my media on linux. This gives me access to my groves of media stored on NTFS, and also makes bringing over projects allot easier. It just makes sense.
- eddiea23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'm sure a lot of "dual-booters" like myself keep a small FAT32 partition around just to keep files that we might need access to in both Windows and Linux. NTFS reads in Linux have been working well for years, but having R/W capabilities would make life a lot easier. (Of course, if you have no use for a "Windows partition", then you are much better of with ReiserFS or even ext3. FYI, A lot of "How do I access X file-system from Y OS?" info can be found here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO.html)
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yes but the driver has been in 'beta' for some time when it works perfectly. Problem is OSS beta means may cause the odd problem once a decade. Most Linux beta software would get released on Windows (Beryl is better than the Windows equivalent even now and is still beta).
Really this is just a bit of linguistic sugar for those who think horrific MS betas are the rule everywhere in the software world. - ViceVirtue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8habbofresh: Some of use still use windows occasionally even if we're Linux (Gentoo ;) ) evangelists.
Not all of us have the spare hard drive space to throw around, all our porn is on our ntfs partitions which our linux/vfat partitions can't accomodate due to size.
Some of us have about 5 small hard drives connected to their PC because no one is big enough for their things. (4 via inbuilt IDE, 1 via USB IDE)
Live and let live. - dystopianray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7NTFS read support has been around for years, however write support was always either buggy or horribly incomplete. The NTFS driver in the kernel for example can only change the contents of files if doing so doesn't change their size.
This new driver has been around for less than a year and claims to have near complete NTFS write support. - pgib, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Why has NTFS support been such a struggle? Is it a really complicated filesystem? Did it have to be reverse-engineered? (I'm not trying to criticize; I'm just honestly curious.)
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6There is now a FUSE implementation for OSX is there not. If so then this should run properly there.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"i can install linux in a NTFS partition whit this thing?"
You kinda can, you can boot from ntfs http://ntfs-3g.com/support.html#lilo although as for the userspace files you probably need to keep the entire system in one giant virtual image as the unix style permissions on files aren't kept under NTFS. I think that might be what the Ubuntu windows installer does.
Maybe the LinuxSec/AppArmour stuff could handle the permissions down the road, but not much point as NTFS is a fairly horrible file system though, it would be much better to install native, no fragmentation and proper permissions etc...
The main problem is the fact that ntfs-3g is userspace, which means the software needs to be running before the filesystem is mounted, might be possible to do it in an initrd image. - haooken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Considering the main reason I use my collection of LiveCDs is for recovery and repair, this is great news.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I bet you the test pool consisted only of digg users [/smirk].
edit: damn digg's viewing page->login->directs you to page opened most recently. - defrex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've been using the beta of ntfs-3g for a while. I've yet to have a problem with it. It'll be nice to see it becoming standard in distros though.
- ATrevelyan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm not a Mac user so I don't know if it works but...
ntfs-3g is a fuse file system, and fuse has been ported to os x:
http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/
So would guess that you can use it on Mac - givre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4When you write on an NTFS partition via samba, it's not linux that write to it, but XP
- manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Indeed there is a FUSE implementation for the Mac (MacFUSE), and (with patches) ntfs-3g has been tested to work.
- mcrules, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This along with Wine means I can play World of Warcraft straight without re-installation.
- alecks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I hope this gets ported to OSX soon!!!
- theratster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It JUST came out, so give it some time.
Although I think you can add this to MOST distros easily if you want. - oilcan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5haven't you been able to read/write ntfs partitions in linux for like a considerable amount of time now?
- Trenton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've been using this for a very long time, no problems with it at all, works flawlessly.
- joelito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@rmxz
I don't consider myself a big ntfs fan.
But ntfs with this userspace driver helps me setting up a shared partition that support large files and can be mounted with umask=000 so all users could read and write in. - subgeniusd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@cannedcorn - It's nice to see that computers have been made simple enough for idiots like you to use them,
- ropers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Your question has already been answered above. Please read the comments before posting.
- dystopianray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@rmxz
This driver isn't going to perform terribly well compared to in-kernel filesystems like ext3 as it is implemented in userspace and still has many performance issues. - dystopianray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It is reported to work well with macfuse (http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/) and later versions of this driver include osx specific fixes.
- rmxz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Parent wrote "who cares about NTFS".
Support for a wide range of standards and defacto standards is a good thing in it's own right.
While you and I may never use NTFS, the fact that Linux is compatable with FAT16, EXT3, XFS, JFS, ReiserFS, hopefully soon ZFS, etc is a great testiment to how flexible the Linux architecture is; as well as making it useful to a wide range of people beyond you and me - whatever their needs are. I think the fact that Linux is compatible with so much more stuff (HW and SW) than Windows (esp Vista) is indeed one of the more important advantages it has.
By supporting NTFS it means that any universal system-utility (like rescue disks, etc) that wants to work on a wide range of platforms would be well served by using Linux.
That said - I would be interested to know from the NTFS fans if there's any particular benefit to using NTFS over XFS, JFS, EXT3, or Reiser -- any workload that it would be especially good for? Anyone have benchmarks, for example, of NTFS vs EXT3 for I/O intensive applications? - mccord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2a bit offtopic, but:
you can just copy your wow directory and it will work without reinstalling!
i'm still running the us-openbeta client i installed on windows and later copied to my homepartition to play under wine :P - skilless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The good thing about OS X's BSD roots is that this code could easily become part of a main release. Hey - even Leopard isn't out yet.
For now I'll settle (quite happily) for MacFUSE use, as mentioned above. - brhad56, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Will this hopefully solve the problem with Ubuntu, Windows XP and NTFS?"
Yes! - bmwboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3CannedCorn, meet block list...
- bombadier337, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3WOW! With ntfs-config (part of ntfs-3g), it is so easy to mount partitions! Why don't they have a tool that will modify /etc/fstab for other ext3/fat32/etc partitions. I'm very impressed by the ease of install.
- dukeinlondon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's been in beta for a LONG while. It's the RC1 that just came out.....
- kursefour20, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't really get it. Will this hopefully solve the problem with Ubuntu, Windows XP and NTFS?
"Issues with Windows XP and NTFS
Note: most current Linux distributions, including Ubuntu, do not support write-access to NTFS partitions; only read access is supported. Write-access is available through commercial packages or in some experimental open-source packages which may be risky to use. See NTFSReadWrite for more info.
Although the Ubuntu installer does now include support for resizing NTFS partitions, it is not 100% effective. If you try the above procedure and have no luck, try the following alternative method:
1.
Boot into Windows and backup any valuable documents/photos etc onto removable media such as CD-R/DVD-R.
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Run the Windows defragmentation tool on C:
3.
[WWW] Download the System Rescue CD ISO image (100 MB; has several very useful software tools).
4.
Burn the ISO image to a CD.
5.
Boot from the CD and hit Enter when you see the message "Boot:".
6.
When you get a command prompt, enter:"
SOURCE:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot - kayjay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2ntfs support is a really good thing, also for USBSTICKS/USB-HDDS.
you can take your ntfs-formatted hdd with you now and use it in linux and windows systems. - mark076h, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i used this with ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g and it works great for mounting the ntfs partition but i cant figure out how to change the mount point or unmount the partition it seems like once you mount it there is no going back?
im sure something can be done at the shell but im a linux n00b lol - bombadier337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh really? Maybe I have mounted partitions and was merely stating it was nice to have a quick and easy tool to edit my fstab. Jackass.
- kruykaze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope it gets implemented and installed by default in linux distros.
- stalinvlad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In FreeBSD etc I belive there was a linux "emulation" mode, is there perhaps the same in OSX?
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