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- gavintlgold, on 10/11/2007, -5/+42This is great! Now if only the American government switched to linux.... ;)
- schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -5/+34Got to love Italy, which is getting love Linux and Free software. Recent examples:
Italy adopts OpenDocument as a National Standard
http://technocrat.net/d/2007/1/29/13965
2006 Italian Linux Day: A nationwide success
http://community.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/01/2048226&from=rss
Historic victory of the "Associazione per il Software Libero"! [in Italy]
http://www.softwarelibero.it/abbiamo_vinto_en
Just yesterday:
Italian Company Debuts Petit ARM9 CPU With Linux
http://www.arm.com/iqonline/news/marketnews/18065. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17Parts of it have.
For example, the U.S. Navy uses it in their newest sonar systems.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7789 - Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18did you hear that people? for ETHICAL reasons :=D
- columb, on 10/11/2007, -9/+24***** MS!
- init100, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13What do you think the NSA runs on their wiretapping analysis clusters? ;)
- grigio, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17Finally! Maybe this wasn't the biggest problem of Italy, anyway it's a first syep on the roght direction
- insanebrain, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12. .. and the revolution continues.
- bovester, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Didn't Germany go to Suse a while back?
Either way, good job guys! - JonnyTrombone, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10But Microsoft is trying -so hard- to make a product that doesn't support a Trillion dollar a year anti-virus industry! Oh... wait...
- init100, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9That depends. There are surely democratic problems with using proprietary software in voting machines. There may also be other examples.
- HPCELarry, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Er, so? Conservatives can't use linux?
- gioma1, on 10/11/2007, -5/+14Sorry to chill the party, but if anyone bothered to look at the original report ( http://www.repubblica.it/2007/07/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/linux-parlamento/linux-parlamento/linux-parlamento.html - I know, I know, not everybody can read Italian...) would be quite disappointed, because they merely decided that
-- "every deputy who WILL REQUEST IT, WILL BE ALLOWED TO install Linux".
In other words, there's no "plan for migrating all its computers to the Free Operating System": Linux is just not forbidden anymore... - wisam, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8God, how old are you?
- trevi55, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9If you'd read the Folena's (Italian Deputy) blog post you had known that also all the pubblic desktop/servers will be moved.
More: http://www.pietrofolena.net/blog/?p=269
Then the private computers too could be migrated if requested (as I wrote in the article). - slapthemonkey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Linux is doing pretty well.
- arjie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Resistance is futile.
- kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6If thats the case, then its still a big deal. In many organisations there are a few computer geeks who love Linux but are told NO. If these guys can install linux then when joe shmo has his windows bork up and comes to our Linux geek for help, he has the chance to say, "Why not just use this, here is a live CD"
Its planting the seeds in the system :-) remember Linux is a virus Steve Balmer said so. All we need is a way in, then your ours mwhahahahaha - kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Me
- daftman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Die troll die!!
- trevi55, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8No more for a year... Left wing won past elections more than year ago...
- kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The more people use Linux the better the hardware support will be. The better the hardware support the more people use linux.......etc. Somewhere in there the games turn up too :-)
- trevi55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Again... :(
Read what Folena (one of the Deputies that proposed this migration) says in his blog: http://www.pietrofolena.net/blog/?p=269
«The Chamber informatics structure will move from Windows to Linux AND optionally all the Deputies and Parties could move their private computers to Linux» - trevi55, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Ive said already in replies, but to be more celar:
The mainly part of the news is taken from what Folena (one of the Deputies that proposed this migration) says in his blog: http://www.pietrofolena.net/blog/?p=269.
Basically he says that «The Chamber computers will move from Windows to Linux AND optionally all the Deputies and Parties could move their private computers to Linux».
They're not the same thing... In the Chamber there are both public computers and private ones, the first ones are the greater part and those that hat will be automatically migrated. - ruiacp, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6***** MS!?
Give them pleasure?
NEVER!!! - daftman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6The funny thing is that I bet you think that you are smart and your reply is witty. The truth hurts so I'll just let you sit in your ignorance and bury you instead.
- elsoft74, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Slowly in Italy some things start to work. I know this aren't worst problem in Italy but the money saved with this "upgrade" are real ;)
- peppino, on 06/03/2008, -0/+4Viva Italia!
- straps, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Proud to be Italian
- williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5< cough > NSAKEY < /cough >
- hmmmok, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5RIght-wing in Europe is like a giant leap left-of-center in the US.
- trevi55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Shall the deputies play?
I hope they won't, so in this case it's only a good thing! :) - Wootery, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Judging by the digg-count, at least 402 people.
- TritonX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Probably because we want to know what is this roadblock?
- awhiteflame, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Microsoft is not an operating system.
- trevi55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3UPDATE: it seems that choice has been SuSE linux, more at the Inquirer article linked on this dugg news.
- gavintlgold, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Don't diss Trevinho. Trevinho is one of the most important figures in the Ubuntu/compiz world: he's the maker of all those repositories.
- gclef, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Geez...is it that hard to use Google? Fine: April of this year, presentation from the guys running the migration:
http://www.sybase.pt/gvsview/gvs/sybase-pt/eventos/EventoLinux2007/FlorianSchiebl.pdf
They're in the middle of the migration, to quote some numbers from the presentation:
330 desktops transferred.
200 test systems installed.
1300 users trained on new apps.
1000 Windows workstations using Open source apps instead of proprietary ones.
Their goal is for 2000 workstations migrated by the end of this year. - keggy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Go linux go..... I hope that Penguin will kill Microsoft in the next years
- thepxc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It depends on how you view democracy. If you see it simply as a system of rule, then proprietary software has nothing to do with democracy, really. If you view democracy as a system based around and designed for presenting options and making choices freely, than Free Software is more aligned with democracy than proprietary software. It's probably still overzealous to call proprietary software undemocratic, however.
- eihwaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3This SEEMS a good news, but I'm Italian and i highly suspect that things won't change that much.
Last year it was "Italy adopts OpenDocument as a National Standard", and I haven't found yet a single file in OpenDocument format when I needed, only pdf (when you're lucky) or doc.
And about this whole Linux conversion... they only decided that now "they are allowed to install it" on the computers of the Parliament. Wich, in true Italian style, means "See? We're good people! Vote for us" but in reality they'll set up something like 50-100 of the 3500 PCs they have there, leaving all the other ones on Windows.
To sum it up: very nice words, that will be followed by few (if no) concrete facts. - gclef, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I gave you tons of info the status of the migration the last time you trotted out your Munich nonsense. You've been proven wrong, and you're refusing to listen...you're just trolling.
(see discussion in this story
http://www.mandriva.com/en/company/press/pr/french_ministry_of_agriculture_and_fisheries_choose_mandriva
) - trevi55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3In the post is linked a message from an Italian Deputy, that's why we can consider this news real.
BTW, we're waiting for official documents too, but the decision has been taken really and is already effective. - kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3If 100 computers did convert that means that linux would have a 2.9% market share in the Italian Parliment. Hey not a bad start :-) Once those guys see the spinning cube of coolness 3% could be ours mwhahahahaha
- kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3That article is interesting. But it doesn't seem to be bad news as such for Linux. The main survey was paid for by Microsoft, so its safe to say that if it didn't make Microsoft look good then those guys wouldn't be asked again.
The fact 84% are looking at Windows seems a little low to me. in our company we look at all alternatives even ones that stand no chance. The fact only 84% are looking at Microsoft tells me 16% need to wake up and keep an eye on all options.
Microsoft saw its revenue grow faster than Linux in one quater in the last 8 years, I would like to see a trend before I worry. this could be a simple blip.
The example of Jelly Belly is just funny. The only linux admin they had left and they didn't t replace him. They had no linux admin and then complain that the system has problems. ANY network has problems if there is no admin - gioma1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3If tovarish Pietro wrote it right, that's much better news.
Hasta la victoria siempre. - trevi55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3We love style, we love compiz :D
- kd1s, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Little by little U.S. Gov't agencies are moving to Open Source. Here in RI the Sec State's office uses LAMP+Plone for all sorts of services, and our public machines use Ubuntu.
- daftman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Because Apple is just another Windows wannabe in terms of corportization
- FutureGuy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2how you read it is left to you but please don't miss quote only part of the article referring to clustering was from a study sponsored by MS. You are right its not a trend yet, keep in mind though that Linux (and Windows to a lesser extent) is mostly replacing Unix and that's what is making it grow, there isn't a whole lot of Unix left.
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