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- tonaros, on 07/22/2008, -4/+125If you think this is the most interesting story the media is downplaying, you haven't been paying attention.
- BigManOnCampus, on 07/22/2008, -7/+113Interesting. I wonder what browser they will be using off of this ROM chip? This is definitely the most insidious attack on Microsoft I've yet heard of. I still don't understand why Microsoft regards threats to their OS as important. The OS is a commodity now, the future markets are where Google is heading, internet applications.
- frontporsche, on 07/22/2008, -1/+76The author himself states why this is useful: "This way, I just flip it on, and boom—I get a browser and the info and I'm done."
Then the author somehow concludes: "It's an extremely subversive ploy for a number of reasons..." "It's obvious to me that ASUS is doing this to help people get familiar enough with Linux so..." - Octanus, on 07/22/2008, -4/+63Wow that story jumped around everywhere. It starts with the ASUS MB, then talks about Google and Viacom's situation, then goes on to bash Vista a bit.
ps. My Asus P5Q Pro MB should be arriving any minute, with said feature. - arjie, on 07/22/2008, -0/+42If I remember right, Asus is installing Splashtop on the newer motherboards. Splashtop's website [ http://www.splashtop.com/index.php ] has videos of the software in action.
- greatblackowl, on 07/22/2008, -1/+41What's weird is what he says in the rest of that quote:
"It's obvious to me that ASUS is doing this to help people get familiar enough with Linux so that the company's ultraportable EeePC can further expand its market share. The EeePC runs Linux."
Uh... This might be a secondary goal, but it's obvious to me that they are doing this so that they'll sell more mobos (and computers with said mobos in them). - Llanowar, on 07/22/2008, -1/+35No matter what the future is, when you got something that makes loads of money you want that to last as long as possible. Anything that might shorten its time of making money is of course a threat.
- mmijatov, on 07/22/2008, -2/+34I hope that this embedded OS can access the local hard disk and not be limited to some kind of "virtual drive" that you have to access via Linux. But even so like BigManOnCampus pointed out, internet applications are where it's at . . . or at least where we're heading. This is still just for enthusiasts as most mainstream purchasers will not be installing their own motherboard. Definitely a step in the right direction. I can't believe that Linux is making genuine inroads into the mainstream, sure took long enough.
- lostngone, on 07/22/2008, -5/+36I love instant booyt!
- citizenchan, on 07/22/2008, -1/+32I love instant booty more!
- tardmaster, on 07/22/2008, -2/+31Wow. A boot OS on the mobo. Exactly what I had on my Ataris 400, 800XL, 1024 ST and on my Commodore. We have come full circle.
- DyceFreak, on 07/22/2008, -0/+25How is this a sneak attack? ASUS has been announcing they were going to do this for a while now...
- zboyet, on 07/22/2008, -0/+24this will be neat if your main OS install falls apart and you cant boot you can fall back on a fully functional OS to get things back in order.
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -1/+25For some reason I thought this was old news
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+24Grammar nazis assemble!
- arpad, on 07/22/2008, -0/+18Dang. Check first then post.
"Based on the Splashtop technology from DeviceVM®, ASUS Express Gate provides a quick alternative for accessing applications such as Skype®, Microsoft® Instant Messenger, browsers, web based mail and media playback from an onboard Linux-based operating system. ASUS Express Gate runs commonly used tasks in seconds, reducing the need to leave a computer on 24/7. "
http://usa.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=8751 - firebreatherseo, on 07/22/2008, -7/+24It'll be Firefox - it's the default in the Ubuntu install at least
- Fratz, on 07/22/2008, -2/+17Of course. Linux reads and writes to way more filesystems than Windows has ever seen.
- bradleyland, on 07/22/2008, -0/+15This has been confirmed for some time. Here's an article dating back to May:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,1000000091,3941 ...
"Splashtop is described by DeviceVM as a "secure web-surfing environment", and is embedded on motherboards so that it can be booted within seconds, as an alternative to booting up a full operating system. It first appeared on high-end Asus motherboards in October 2007 and has since been put onto the more mainstream M3 series, but, according to Joe Hsieh, general manager of Asus' motherboard business unit, it will now be extended to the entire range." - ivanmarsh, on 07/22/2008, -1/+16Now make it boot up a Xen kernel and we're talking about something.
ROM based virtualization on the motherboard would rock! - talonh, on 07/23/2008, -0/+15I'm not sure what the hell Ubuntu has to do with what's on the ASUS motherboards, however it's sort of Firefox. ASUS is calling it the Splashtop Browser based on Firefox.
- diggdiggdug, on 07/22/2008, -1/+16This is an awesome development. Linux is and has been excellent on embedded devices. Many do not know that Linksys started and prospered for many years with a linux OS on their routers. One more step toward taking Linux mainstream and reducing the mystery to users.
- CoreyHalliwell, on 07/22/2008, -1/+15I had to switch windows because im at work and read the headline so fast, i thought that said ANUS sneak attack. Cool though I love Asus and the Ritalin i get for dyslexia :(.
- Kaput84, on 07/22/2008, -0/+13I think he means that rather than wasting time fighting to keep windows #1 they should develop new tech to stay ahead of the curve.
- laola1, on 07/22/2008, -0/+13http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px ... has all the proof you need: a link to the official press release and a detailed review.
- Pyehole, on 07/22/2008, -1/+14Not so much "down played" as "not played up". The MSM tries to understand stories before they report them, after all these years they still don't understand Linux.
- bradleyland, on 07/22/2008, -2/+14It's Dvorak. He purposefully talks in circles hoping that he'll say something that gets people all riled up, resulting in lots of links to his article.
The whole thing seems really unclear to me. ASUS introduced this on high-end motherboards. Conceivably, the people who buy these boards are high-end users, with expensive graphics cards, RAID arrays, and 15k RPM SATA drives. Why would I build such a system to boot in to a stripped down copy of Linux? I understand that you don't _always_ need your full blown OS, but the instances where this would be useful just seem really limited. Initially, I thought ASUS was using embedded Linux as a means of providing a rich, graphical configuration environment for their motherboards, as well as some diagnostic tools (similar to a utility partition), but it is now clear that this isn't the case. They actually intend people to spend time in this thing.
IMO, this is a goofy, half-way solution somewhere between a truly stateful instant-on type system, and a full-blown computer. I'm just not sure how it will gain traction. - rabidg00se, on 07/23/2008, -0/+12Whz don't zou have a z kez?
- mkrygeri, on 07/22/2008, -0/+11It's Firefox. I've been using an ASUS splashtop motherboard for almost a year now. I don't use it often but it sure is nice if I just need to power up and look at something instead of waiting for vista to boot.
- cosmicdreams, on 07/22/2008, -1/+11Looks like they support NFTS: http://www.splashtop.com/open_source.php
Pretty cool. They plan to open up development to the masses eventually. - elister, on 07/22/2008, -1/+10But will it read/write NTFS? Sounds pretty cool tho, kinda like a safe build should the system fail.
- mikerad86, on 07/22/2008, -3/+12ASUS!!!! Light!!!!!!
- celkin, on 07/23/2008, -0/+8Why don't you have a seat right over there...
- aflaks, on 07/23/2008, -4/+12I read "ANUS sneak attack" so I clicked instantly. Based on that, this article is very disappointing
- Myonosken, on 07/22/2008, -1/+9Why not just use hibernate and stop wasting power.
Or, gee, switch it off. Lord knows 20 secs a morning isn't too much to ask- make a coffee whilst you do it. - billbugger, on 07/22/2008, -0/+8father?
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+8Especially if you can save things to CD from this, such as to download drivers that windows borks up. Normally I use knoppix for this, but if the on-board OS can do it, that would rock.
- deff, on 07/23/2008, -1/+8I'm probably the only one who got a chuckle out of that one. *sigh* Go ahead and digg me down.
- tedrock, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7you need to read the article.
- bobsander87, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7And if it catches you wanking, then it may refer some good porno
- geoken, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7And it's not even like this story is being downplayed. This guy was simply living under a rock a few weeks back when every tech site was reporting this and it hit the front page multiple times (in various forms).
- skyshock1, on 07/23/2008, -0/+7Is that the same thing as NTFS?
- inactive, on 08/11/2008, -0/+7Yes, there are many "versions" (distributions) of Linux, but they all run on the same kernel, and the kernel is what is responsible for low-level things like file system handling.
- alexforcefive, on 07/22/2008, -2/+8if you install ntfs-3g
- rabidg00se, on 07/23/2008, -0/+6>>may definetely
- zboyet, on 07/22/2008, -4/+10This will be nice if your main OS install falls apart. You have a fully functional backup OS at your fingertips to get things back up and running.
- BloodyIron, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6Havn't you guys ever heard of the Linux BIOS project (Now coreboot)? MSI started work with them, yet somehow ASUS is ahead of the game?
http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot - yosserhughes, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7"Of course, you will have to press another button for the machine to load Windows."
WHAT? I'll have to press TWO buttons to get to Windows, God I'm so distraught, quick, smelling salts someone. - hourz, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7We just had a meeting with Dell reps. All their E series ultra portable laptops will have this feature. It will be out of pre-production sometime around the end of September.
This means the thousands of laptops users may be using linux soon whether they realize it or not... haha.
It looks like this instant on feature is going mainstream. They are selling it as "System in a system."
It also allows broadband, wifi, and evdo connectivity when turned on so you can have connectivity for the browser and connectivity to MS Exchange servers via Linux.
Sounds great right? Hopefully it actually works well. - infiniphunk, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7Don't be so sure it can't be updated. Just as you can flash your bios, the same will apply here.
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