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- skazhy, on 04/17/2008, -3/+59dugg for the anime linux distros :D
- ruiacp, on 04/17/2008, -14/+63Congratulations! Its good to see a "top xx" like article with good content instead of personal preferences.
I would like to see one article about the 7 Habits of Highly Effective Windows Users. I would help but I only can find 2: Never install it and never boot it. - ArmchairAthlete, on 04/17/2008, -4/+490. Google, google, and more google whenever something is being a pain in the ass.
- maxpower2911, on 04/17/2008, -13/+438: Live in a dark basement with no windows, glass or not.
- mrtrevin, on 04/17/2008, -1/+30Great article. Especially keeping your /home directory on a different partition. Oh, and VirtualBox, it kicks ass.
- IndigoMoss, on 04/17/2008, -0/+21Linux runs on a PC...
- Remmy, on 04/17/2008, -2/+18Translation: I am a lazy person who can't be bothered to type something in a CLI, but I can type this ***** on Digg.
- spankaccount, on 04/17/2008, -0/+14As a long time Unix admin, I really appreciate well thought out Linux articles like this one. There are so many poor Linux articles on Digg that I just had to point this one out. Great job.
- lpcustom, on 04/17/2008, -3/+16This would be pretty good if there wasn't that nasty number 6. "Play the field?" This is not exactly how you become a highly effective user. It is best to try a few, find one your most comfortable with, and then stick with it. A lot of new Linux users will run into a roadblock and then switch their entire distro out to fix it. If they had just taken the time to find out how to fix it, they would be better off. You may find that wireless doesn't automatically work with one distro so instead of just finding out how to fix it you install a different one. Then you find that you don't like the desktop theme for the new one. So you switch to yet another. You run into problems there because of your lack of knowledge with the package manager. It's a never ending cycle a lot of users find themselves in. Pick on e and go with it. They are all basically the same anyway. Sure, some are more optimized, some are easier for a n00b to use, and some have a better installer, but they can all do the same thing. They can all look the same. They can all use the same software. Number six on this list should be scrubbed.
- pendrachken, on 04/17/2008, -1/+12Good god why? Did your fingers fall off or something?
Hell I even use the CLI on windows machines for a lot of tasks, it is just plain simpler and faster. - Smegzor, on 04/17/2008, -0/+10IRC what you did there.
- tj111, on 04/17/2008, -1/+11Why is a CLI is so popular on Linux? You can do almost anything from a command-line that you can do with a GUI. Linux offers the GUI for people who prefer it, but doesn't nerf it's command line to bolster the GUI.
Example, I want to install Amarok in Ubuntu. I can open Add/Remove, search for Amarok, check the box next to hit, then hit install. Or I can just open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install amarok". Much more efficient. - savantidiot, on 04/17/2008, -0/+8"...with good content instead of personal preferences."
............................... . . . - Jacob, on 04/17/2008, -1/+9how can you guarantee something like that? For the most part any mainstream distro is going to be able to handle everything you would be doing as a general user in GUI. But if there is hardware incompatibility you may have to step into command line. Then again it's the same way on any OS you choose be it windows or osx, in general they work without command line but there are times when you need to get in and use command line.
- BlackAdderIII, on 04/17/2008, -2/+10""" I'd ride a motorbike if there was one with four wheels and a steering wheel. ""
- neko, on 04/17/2008, -1/+9I agree with most points, except for 2., the file naming thing. I can name my files with spaces and all the special characters I feel the need for, and I love it. Just because some characters are special to the shell shouldn't mean anything - we have quotes and escapes for that. And usually typing the first part of the name and hitting TAB will get you the rest of the name, suitably escaped.
I don't mean to pick on Windows for this,... okay, maybe a little.... but go and right click on the desktop in your graphical CLI-free environment, make a new file, and call it "Does Windows Hate Me?.txt". Then you will have your answer. - benplaut, on 04/17/2008, -0/+7actually, I agree with point 6, but not in quite the way that the article phrased it. By starting with SuSE, moving to Ubuntu and then Gentoo and then Slack and then Arch, I learned more about Linux than I would have in twice the time on any one distro. The point is to reach a level of comfort and familiarity with the underpinnings, regardless of the package manager or DE on top of things.
Awesome article... usually I don't read these, but this one was spot on. - inactive, on 04/17/2008, -1/+8ALT+SysRq+REISUB
It does wonders if you have an unresponsive system. - JohnFlux, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6I dunno, I can appreciate this.
How would you, for example, grep a broken hard disk for someone thesis that they were working on? I've recovered someone's work just from doing "less /dev/hda1".
There are been quite a few times when it's been useful to have linux on hand. - OrangeSoda31, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6Because the command line in windows sucks and can't do anything anyway. In linux, you can actually do things with it. Chances are, if you can do it visually in windows, there is a way to do it visually in linux.
- chaos386, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6The anime linux distros are a set of "Linux-tans" done by a guy on deviantart:
http://juzo-kun.deviantart.com/gallery/#OS-Girls-a ... - schotty, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6That has some peeps I know converted to linux right there :D That type of thing, even if it is cryptic will amaze people. And when told that Windows cannot innately do this, it is an even large befuddlement. (I fix computers on the side and do that at my night job. Having a laptop on hand has earned me a few hundred offhand for being able to do just that -- fix this bug, recover that ...)
- Ellipsys, on 04/17/2008, -1/+7There are an assortment of games on Linux, and many of the AAA titles you enjoy on Windows work through Wine (World of Warcraft for instance). While it is true that not every game works on Linux flawlessly and easily, hopefully as adoption continues developers will create Linux game clients. Check out savage2.s2games.com This is a great, cheap, AAA RTS/FPS hybrid that runs on both Linux and Windows.
- Cyber_Akuma, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6I don't see how that is is possible, from Windows 3.11 to Vista I still use Window's command prompt quite extensively, I can't imagine how aggravating it would be for me if it was removed, and Windows is designed to be almost completely GUI in mind.
It would be incredibly annoying if there was no command line in Linux. - neko, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6Come with a full featured range of software.
I can think of occasions when I've been asked for help and... oh, right, you don't -have- a CD ripping program. okay, we'll just... right, you don't have Synaptic, okay, we'll just try and find one online, ... Next Next Next Next Okay I Agree Next ... right, let's rip that oh, it's trialware. Well, use this for now, and in 30 days... find someone else to help. Please. - Killerah, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6I think that now would be an appropriate time to point and laugh.
- spiffytech, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6Or maybe it's a common phrase not originally connected with your book?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client ... - fukawi2, on 04/17/2008, -1/+6A separate home partition is really useful - on the same drive or a completely separate drive. GB are cheap these days. Buy a 500gb, make a 20gb partition for / and the rest for /home. Get over whatever free space is left in that 20gb that the system doesn't use. It shouldn't be over 80% full anyway.
- iRelinquish, on 04/17/2008, -0/+5hey what do you know, i buried you for the same reason : )
- mossblaser, on 04/17/2008, -0/+5You really don't understand do you? Also, since when did reinstalling recover all your files?
- OrangeSoda31, on 04/17/2008, -2/+7avoid nearly all viruses, grant the user true and unlimited access to even the most core settings, remain stable even when a bad program runs, etc.
- jay019, on 04/17/2008, -0/+5At least submitting those bugs to the Linux developers will result in a fix. How often do windows developers get onto bug fixes immediately?
- schotty, on 04/17/2008, -0/+5Funny you mention that. An older friend at work needed something to rip cds to use on his flash mp3 player he got online for retarded cheap (2gb for $30 or so). I said yeah, I can find some goodies for ya. Well 5 hours later I found one that wasn't shareware/trialware/crap. That would be much easier in linux -- get grip. (or whatever is found under a search for cd rippers).
- SteveMax, on 04/17/2008, -0/+5Just wait until a "rm -rf /tmp/foo" becomes a "rm -rf / tmp/foo"...
You can do basically everything on a well-configured distro without root privileges. Keep a terminal tab running as root (preferably with blue-on-red text, to keep you from using it too much) for the very rare things you need root, and you're done. - schotty, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4Setup sudo and log it. That way everything you do is logged (trust me, ***** happen even to the best of them), and make sure to keep sudo asking for the password. On home systems its less of a big deal, but on servers it is.
- javaroast, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4If you haven't used the CLI in Windows in the last 6 years, I can guarantee that you won't have to in Linux either. Now I've had to use the CLI in Windows because sometimes it just works better. Anyone who has ever had to copy muliple gigs of data between network drives and transfer the security as well will know what I mean when I say that robocopy is much faster, efficient, and easier than attempting to do it in the gui.
- SteveMax, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4Really? Remember that Start->Run is a CLI, even if you use it to run graphical apps. If you've never used either cmd or the "run" interface in six years, you'll probably never use any CLI at all in any OS, be it Windows, Linux, OS X or *BSD.
- nailer, on 04/17/2008, -1/+5"Then I realised it wouldn't compile without the mySQL libraries installed, but the wifi wasn't working,"
Why are you compiling something, rather than just installing it? Why did you find getting mysql difficult, these are basic tasks than be achieved with a few clicks. - vincentweber, on 04/17/2008, -2/+6Oh really? You have a bootable version of Windows on a CD/USB stick?
- vincentweber, on 04/17/2008, -1/+5What experience? Frustration (it crashes AGAIN!! ARG! I'll switch to Mac/Linux tommorow!)? Patience (Omg defragging takes sooo long! Omg anti-virus/mallware scans are taking hours! Why the ***** does it take Windows XP 2 freakin hours to format my 500GB super-fast-sata-disk?! Why is it that when XP booted to the desktop it takes another 2 minutes on my bleeding edge dell precision laptop to respond to me?! Answer me!)? Being lost (Why the hell is this option there and not just over there?! Why is there no single menu for settings, applications and places?! zomg!)? Etc.
Seriously, Windows users, you have no idea what you're missing. - schotty, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4yes. if that is the OS of choice, then the computer isnt working due to hardware deficiencies. Sorry but if the hardware doesn't work as needed it sucks. Regardless of the OS. I recall some rather evil older Compaq drivers that were Satanicly evil to get working in Windows. You _had_ to use the custom ones off their website. Of course normal mortals wouldnt guess this ... The owner said the same thing jay019 said - this sucks!
- rtaibah, on 05/22/2009, -0/+3Lol, what planet are you living on? Your hero of a writer is a plagerist himself. The orginal book is by Steven Covey and it's called "the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" published in 1989.
Anyways the title is obviously borrowed, and the writer knows it. He never brought up the sentence in the article itself. It's more like a pun - Spectre77, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3I think you accidentally spelled "the" correctly... twice.
- Shadowgamers, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3Still can't run Crysis
- bot001220, on 04/17/2008, -2/+5Get a room, you two.
- witchdoctor117, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3And if you had the opportunity to use a proper CLI in windows maybe you could have done a lot of things you never thought you could do. But I guess you don't know what you don't know.
- Ademan, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4hahaha..... i know countless people who ***** hate windows, yet continue to use it because they haven't heard of or don't want to try linux, and feel that somehow using a mac would be admitting their own technological ignorance. That's not to say these cases aren't user error (they are) but 90% of windows users are NOT happy with it, not to say they'd be any happier on any other platform, but I wanted to get the score straight, *****-fests like geek squad are still in business for a reason...
- lovestospooge, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3Ironic comment is ironic
- SteveMax, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4Ten years ago, that was on every single Linux installation tutorial ("you will need at the very least three partitions: one for /boot (~10MB), one for / (100MB-1GB, depending on what you plan to install), one for swap (1.5*your RAM), and one for /home (the rest of the disc)". Today, the trend is to keep everything in a single place, which is not healthy at all.
- Smegzor, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4Never gonna boot you up.
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