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- chrish01, on 03/17/2009, -1/+10Can't wait for video and audio integration with jingle/google talk!
- KhaaL, on 03/17/2009, -0/+8Gorgeous, Looks like this will be another piece of software that other OS users will envy.
- electromage, on 03/17/2009, -1/+7I dugg you down for a couple reasons:
For one, Google Talk is widely used. I see computers come in to my shop all of the time with it installed, and anyone with a Gmail account has a Google Talk account, as well as a client (built in to Gmail).
Second, Synapse is not limited to Google Talk.You can use any Jabber server, or even create your own. You could install a Jabber server on your home computer and use it to connect to someone with a Google Talk account. It is very useful for organizations that limit IM communications to the outside world, but want to allow their employees to communicate internally. - febisfebi, on 03/17/2009, -0/+6Eric makes very intuitive interfaces, I always admire them. and a stable, very usable backend, before even a .1 release. Thanks for all the work on this, and I look forward to contributing to the project.
Ryan - chrish01, on 03/18/2009, -0/+5I'm not sure if some of you are ignoring the point of the jabber protocol or simply were never informed. It's job was to encapsulate the client side of all the messaging frameworks and provide interoperability through the server with the use of transports. For example, with my jabber server, I'm connected to aim, msn, and icq all through my single jabber connection.
Now, of course, this still makes video tough for non-jabber based protocols. But no more really than it would be from the client directly. It just allows for greater code-reuse via the server, which is better for us all anyway. - argylesocks, on 03/17/2009, -1/+5this is beautiful
- init6, on 03/17/2009, -0/+3Very nice looking IM client. I'll be doing a new VMWare install of Ubuntu to try this out!
- mickstephenson, on 03/18/2009, -0/+3He does go into lengthy detail in his blog post about why he doesn't want to do that.
http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2009/03/15/336 - TheSilentNumber, on 03/17/2009, -1/+3I'm sticking with Empathy for the Telepathy framework
- mickstephenson, on 03/18/2009, -0/+2TychoQuad: "on an operating system with a comparatively low desktop user base is not going to do it."
That's assuming he doesn't plan on porting his app to windows. If the app is good enough it can gain traction on windows without the windows users even needing to be aware its predominantly a linux app.
Although I am dubious as to how much I will find any use for the app, most of my contacts are on MSN, even the ones that are on jabber use MSN aswell in pidgin, and we only use Jabber on jabber.org just for errrm sentimentality I guess.
There is no way I can convince them to move to Gtalk, because they won't convince their friends to move to Gtalk, and on ad infinitum.
If the change comes it won't come from people like us pushing it, it will come from a craze about this amazing new app.
If Synapse can combine twitter, facebook, and gtalk into one amazing and cool looking app however I can see people I know making the switch all on their own without tech-heads like me trying to coerce them. - electromage, on 03/17/2009, -0/+2I just hope this one has a chance to mature. I think it's good that he's making a chat client... that's all we really used Meshwork for, anyway.
- hemanthhm, on 08/06/2009, -0/+1Don not use any app with mono in GNU/LINUX ...
But why ?
Answer : http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono - mickstephenson, on 03/18/2009, -1/+2I kind of agree with him, but he needs to support windows from the beginning, not add support later on, I mean we haven't seen banshee windows support yet... will we ever? I think had banshee made more of an effort it could be a widely used windows app already. This has the added protocol inertia, but if it beats the gtalk client, which I believe it does it can take that part of the market overnight, if it has a strong facebook plugin it could spread like wildfire... but it needs to make serious grounds quickly, or it won't even be useful to the linux users market.
In short any IM app trying to make traction should have its focus on the windows market from the start, while using open source linux libraries to keep linux compatibility. - DreadKnight, on 03/31/2009, -0/+1Galaxium is pretty cool.
Seems both Synapse and Galaxium are using Mono, which will annoy the crap of many geeks.. heh - Lucid00, on 07/15/2009, -0/+1The one thing I don't get is that Microsoft had stated that they were working on making WLM interoperable with Jabber, and they've said they have a version of it internally that works with Jabber, but yet we haven't seen anything (not even screenshots) and it's been over a year now.
Same for AIM, they were working on Jabber for AIM then they suddenly stopped.
Do these companies think they can make money off of proprietary IM?
Oh well, I just hope that Synapse supports the Google Wave protocol in the future. - DreadKnight, on 03/31/2009, -0/+1I'm very glad that they support only Jabber. Do something and do it good!
It's pretty much the only open sourced IM protocol.
***** WLM, ***** microsoft.
They should just make some good enought IM client for linux... actually paying developers if they don't plan to make WLM open source. - DreadKnight, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1Perhaps they shouldn't, but if you think again, linux really needs audio/video *****, since it's way behind windows and mac.
So, we can make good use of it, at ditch it later on, just like it happens with flash and video streaming now, which will probably become history in the near future. Flash will still be good for games and interactive stuff, until google or somebody else will release good 3d open sourced plugin for the web.
Can't wait for Adobe to f.off to be honest :D (go Krita!) - TychoQuad, on 03/17/2009, -2/+2Don't get me wrong, i'm not knocking the Jabber protocol, it certainly has it's uses, and I would love to see it get a foothold in the market. However, it just hasn't got the means to push it's way into the market at the moment. If Google can't do it, then who can?
Just so we're clear, I'm talking Jabber Vs MSN or AIM. Even Skype. It just isn't happening until someone invents a killer feature, and I'm sorry to say, but a social network based IM client on an operating system with a comparatively low desktop user base is not going to do it. - baqtor, on 03/18/2009, -1/+1I know, perhaps I should have said that I disagree with him, because the adoption will be extremely slow... anyway, it's my opinion, besides the code can be forked.
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -0/+0Haven't seen you trolling the last few Microsoft submissions. So you've moved on to trolling the Linux ones instead, hoping to blend in with who you think are your "peers"? Think again, *****.
- TychoQuad, on 03/18/2009, -1/+1mickstephenson, I'm not talking about what it MAY be, I'm talking about what it IS. Even if it does get ported to windows, people still won't go for it. social network IM clients already exist, and they already suck, so I really don't see this app generating much more interest than a Digg.com article.
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -1/+0Google Talk is widely used? You have no concept of reality. Buried for ignorance bordering on delusion.
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -1/+0Sorry, gloating fanboi. Digsby stomps this into the ground and spits on it in terms of functionality alone.
- baqtor, on 03/17/2009, -3/+2Looks great, but it only supports the Jabber protocol (wich is the same one as gmail), and all my friends are in WLM. This is Open Source... can't they borrow the code from pidgin, telepathy, amsn, emesene or any other OSS software? It would be great to have at least basic support for other protocols, I dont think people is gonna switch just like that, since they need all their contacts to switch too.
- inactive, on 03/17/2009, -6/+4They shouldn't be using the Microsoft Mafia's C# and Mono, they should use real open source, such as JavaFX.
http://www.javafx.com/ - TychoQuad, on 03/17/2009, -7/+5Right now I don't think there's any truly great IM clients for Linux, and while the motivations behind Synapse are noble, without any support for a widely used client (Google Talk is not widely used) then skipping past is a no-brainer.
I agree with him on what he says though, all the linux im clients tend to try to support everything, and in the end only support the most basic features common to them all, that is not useful. I don't claim to have a solution, but I will point out that my current favourite linux im client is one that attempts to attain feature parity with one client, while adding basic support for others. (Galaxium)
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