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- armo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11On Monday, I had to install vista onto my parents pc. Installed it all and guess what, the graphics card and the ethernet card weren't recognised. We didn't have a drivers cd's and if we had it probably wouldn't have had vista drivers on it. So, I then booted into an ubuntu live cd, which picked up the graphics card and ethernet straight away in order to download the drivers.
Seems like the hardware support is pretty damn good to me. - noddyxoi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Debian is not a distro for newbies... try mandriva or ubuntu instead.
- Shootfast, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11If only I had the URL, but yesterday I saw an instructional video about this whole prodecure. No-one can argue that installing Linux is hard.
- FluffyArmada, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Hardware support is not an issue in Linux, with exception of Winmodems (not really a problem anymore either) and a few wireless cards. Besides some really bizarre soviet hardware you're running, most everything is going to work fine.
Just yesterday, I setup Gentoo on a Sony Viao. Everything works. Sound, video (even with accelleration because of the new in-kernel radeon drivers), my pcmcia slot, usb, etc. The only thing that I haven't gotten to test is that damn memory stick reader that I thought was an SD card reader. (Word to the wise: Memory Stick is NOT SD or Compact Flash, it's sony's own stupid little format that no one likes.) - fak3r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4This has been true for years, and the parent you're replying to is going by old data; in fact, installing Windows is always more trouble than installing Linux. The hardware wizard tells you it found new hardware, and you're off to try and find the right drivers online. Of course when it's a NIC that it doesn't have drivers for you're forced to use another computer to try and get all the drivers dnld/burned and finally installed on your new box; Linux hasn't had issues like this for years. Hell, you even get networking up during the install for Debian net-installs, and away you go.
I love reading reviews "...After install, Linux rebooted fine, but my printer didn't work!" With conclusions always ending like, "While it's come a long way, Linux is not ready for the desktop!" Please - it's as if Linux has to solve things that even Windows hasn't solved to be a viable 'desktop'. (I've used LInux on the desktop since 1998 - it's come a long way, and is ready for general desktop usage) - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I prefer to do my playing about in a VM. That way its absolutely no trouble if I decide I want to get rid of it easily and not have to worry about resizing my partitions and stuff.
- hyanakin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5It's hard if the hardware is not supported out of the box. As far as I can see that's the major issue.
- armo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It doesn't, FTA
"If you like to uninstall the Debian-Installer Loader (that's just the Debian installer, not your new Debian system!)" - Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1There's a lot more to being easy to use than just the package manager. For instance, ubuntu's defaults are far more sane for newbies, and decrease the chance that they would have to dive into some conf file. Ubuntu ships with a diverse selection of software so that you can get to work (doing some things) or play (doing others) right away. Debian's default software, if i remember correctly, was considerably more cluttered (it might have two pieces of software of the same type like openoffice.org writer AND abiword) and limited in scope.
I frankly agree with noddyxoi, i really like debian because of how much it's contributed to open source, but it's really not a beginner's distro, if for no other reason than because of the elitist community. - rrrrw22, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1installing debian sure has gotten a lot easier since I first started using it 6 years ago.
- DAC1138, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I'd digg this....if it was real news. This was posted a few months ago.
Digg is just regurgitated news for nerds now recycled over and over. - Cymrubeats, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4I would digg this ten times if i could, simply for showing how to safely uninstall too (some people just want to TRY things).
- Frost9999, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I think of Digg as the sleazy tabloid of online media, along with engadget and gizmodo.
- aw93053, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1worked on an old Athlon1200 system perfectly but will not load up the correct drivers for a marvel gigabit ethernet card during the installation procedure
- fak3r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1With an installer this easy, and tools like Synaptic Debian is as easy to use as...Ubuntu. Right? There's less online support and howtos like you'll find with Ubuntu, but for most things it'll be a matter or running and installing things via Synaptic. Back in the day Debian was hard to install, but this was 5+ years ago.
- mmmiiikkkeee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1want to what? have windows installed???? or have linux installed??????????............ what are u asking
- HonoredMule, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's comparatively hard in the sense that Windows is already there.
I've used many installers many times through many configurations and I confidently hold that Windows has by far the worst piece of ***** installers and bootloaders out there. Of course that's no surprise, when Microsoft's strategy doesn't involve playing nice with unusual requirements or having other operating systems at all, and current market forces don't require it either. Microsoft is happy when users don't know how to install ANY operating system or what a bootloader is, because then the general consensus is that playing with such things is hard, and Microsoft is Mr Nice Guy for saving them from such "advanced" stuff, despite few people ever learning just how "advanced" OS installations aren't. - TexanPsycho, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Still, why would anyone want to?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The equivalent of this for Ubuntu is UNetbootin at http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
Unlike Wubi and just like the installer for Debian UNetbootin installs to a real partition; it lets you install a real Ubuntu install from Windows. - mabhatter, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2yeah linux... BeOS could do this back in 1999.
- crs666, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0old one :P
- WiseBoy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2That is great. I hope it helps Debian to get a wider user base.
- RoadWarriorX11, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Doesn't work, error /TRANSLATE
buried - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0UNetbootin support this for Ubuntu, Fedora, openSuse, and more: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Install_Ubuntu_Fedora_o ... and http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
- webpagina, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Now this looks like an easy way to play with Linux.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0As well as Ubuntu, it also supports Fedora, Mandriva, OpenSuse, and Arch Linux. UNetbootin at digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Install_Ubuntu_Fedora_o ...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0If you want something like this that can install mandriva, fedora, opensuse, or ubuntu, use UNetbootin. See http://digg.com/linux_unix/Install_Ubuntu_Fedora_o ... and http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
- vovka3, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Awesome! Simple, easy (and fun?!) install....
LOL the URL killed me! www.goodbye-microsoft.com hahaha - lflashl, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1what a kick ass too, wonder how long before ubuntu takes this.
- colto, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1I used to say the same thing about spreading your *****, taking a picture, and posting it on the internet......and then goatse happened.
/shudders - lime148, on 10/10/2007, -14/+4But why would anyone want to?


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