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- Continuum, on 01/17/2008, -5/+58The title and description are misleading.
From the article:
"Although MySQL will be working closely with Sun, Arno also emphasizes the fact that the LAMP stack is here to stay. "I don't expect [closer ties with Java and Solaris] in any way to be at the cost of other popular operating systems... or development environments," says Arno. "MySQL grew with LAMP and MySQL without LAMP at its core is simply unimaginable."
I don't understand why everyone is so worried about this acquisition. Worst case, since MySQL 5.1 is licensed under the GPL someone would just create a fork from 5.1 and call it OurSQL.
Although, LOMP doesn't have the same ring to it. - vroom101, on 01/17/2008, -2/+46Using "OurSQL" would make it LAOP.
- schestowitz, on 01/17/2008, -8/+41Take good care of MySQL, Sun.
- Toshibi, on 01/17/2008, -1/+28Only if by real men you mean people with more money than brains.
- jellygraph, on 01/17/2008, -1/+21I'm surprised ColdFusion is still around, considering how crap it is
- RealmDown, on 01/17/2008, -0/+20In my data center, the MySQL server is in the third rack from the Sun.
- DardanAeneas, on 01/17/2008, -0/+17Don't worry, it's open source. But this should legitimize MySQL in stodgy old managers' minds. Good for programmers.
- magamiako, on 01/17/2008, -1/+17I thought about the potential downfalls of MySQL becoming a more commercial product, but I think it actually is a bit of a win-win situation for everyone.
Now that MySQL is getting the corporate backing of Sun, it leverages its power in the marketplace. How many people here see MySQL only right now used as a server for just LAMP installations? That seems to be MySQL's most popular function.
With Sun, they can position MySQL as a direct competitor to Oracle and Microsoft SQL Server, a position MySQL, despite the power of its software, was never able to compete with in the real business market.
There should be an abundance of MySQL DB Administrators, too--since a whole lot more people know how to work with the software than Oracle and MSSQL, which ultimately means a DBA on MySQL will probably cost less than someone who says they know Oracle.
While the days of 6 figured DBA salaries may be soon coming to a close, it will still prove a lucrative market for both job seekers and businesses alike. - TomFrost, on 01/17/2008, -4/+16Perl PHP? Who the ***** uses Perl when they have PHP?
- inactive, on 01/17/2008, -0/+11You don't understand how Digg works.
- gpmidi, on 01/17/2008, -0/+9alchemy
- gummih, on 01/17/2008, -3/+12I love Lamp
- markwilcox, on 01/17/2008, -2/+10Why is he being dugg down?
- kaiwai, on 01/17/2008, -0/+7You do realize that they purchased it to benefit opensolaris adoption? Why the concern anyhow? Opensolaris is 100% open source so why the whining?
- RealmDown, on 01/17/2008, -0/+7Exchange rate
- inactive, on 01/17/2008, -0/+6"strategy by Sun to displace the LAMP stack with its own Solaris and Java technologies." It would be stupid of them to even try that.
- QuiffBoy, on 01/17/2008, -0/+6or with Continuum's idea of "OurSQL":
SOAP
oh, hang on. hasn't that been done before? :) - ronin691, on 01/17/2008, -1/+7Only if by "real men" you mean people who like to have their dev environment generate bloated, slow actionscript that doesn't comply with any standards, then charge whoever you are working for $65,000.00 a year for the "programming" ( plus stick that same employer for the $3,500.00 MS SQL licensing bill ).
- bradleyland, on 01/17/2008, -0/+6Linux, OurSQL, MySQL, PHP?
- breich, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5If Sun screws up MySQL, there's always PostgreSQL, which is arguably much more powerful than MySQL anway (albeit much slower).
- commentbot, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5Solaris, OurSQL, Apache, PHP = SOAP
Java, OurSQL, OpenSolaris, Tomcat = JOOST
Oh, no, not Java, I'll have to buy more RAM :P - MeatBiProduct, on 01/17/2008, -1/+6lol perl
seen lots of gigs for that in the last 5 years. /end sarcasm - djm101, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5I don't believe this will the case, they would be absolutely stupid to ignore how successful LAMP is in the industry - and in fact, they've said that themselves already but we'll have to see won't we.
- Drizzit, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5Actually they can. Sun has quite a few patents related to databases that they could donate into MySql now.
- DardanAeneas, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5Egads! SAMJ
Solaris + Apache + MySQL + Java, JSP
:-P - Pr0phet, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5This makes for an interesting timeline:
1. Solaris and Oracle have had a long-standing partnership between Solaris and Oracle DB.
2. Oracle essentially steals Red Hat Enterprise Linux, renaming it, and using it as their own Linux release.
3. Oracle purchases InnoDB.
4. Sun purchases MySQL.
The common denominator, of course, is acquisition of proven server technology to compete against Microsoft for the small business market, and to provide professionally supported upgrade paths from the so-called small stuff to the enterprise level. As a side effect, they would theoretically be able to divest of each other at any moment should they choose. - Drahkar, on 01/17/2008, -1/+5Because people are stupid.
(If you think about it. That sentence applies to so many things. 'Why would someone do something like that?' 'Because people are stupid!' 'Why would the guy jump into a cremation furnace after his cd-player?' ' Because people are stupid' It is a solid answer to all questions relating to why people do some of the more moronic things around.) - Continuum, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4Absolutely right. It was late, I obviously wasn't thinking to hard.
- Pr0phet, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4*blink*
I don't know about you but there's no chance I would run any sort of enterprise on SQLite. It rocks for single-user and development purposes, and compared to BDB its the most awesome thing since sliced bread, but SQLite would never replace MySQL in any sane environment as it stands right now. - MeatBiProduct, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4There already is an enterprise edition of MySQL. The way I see it the aquisition makes sense. I use LAMP - but I also know another thousand Java developers using MySQL as their db storage.
Also saying that production websites require the zendcore is false. Using hardware infrastructure thats beefy enough will run PHP just fine on the busiest sites.
Sun is trying to reclaim its stake and the aquistion of MySQL was a good move. I think Sun will do a fine job assisting in the project. Highly doubtful the project would change at all though. - jellygraph, on 01/17/2008, -1/+5blocked
- jbmcb, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4Because Java is rather good at scaling. You don't fix performance issues with code optimization anymore, you just buy more hardware. At the end of the day a week of refactoring is more expensive than another server blade distributing the load.
- Pr0phet, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4You don't change what already works. Hell, Oracle has been selling the same database software since the mid-90's with very little changed. Yet people still upgrade.
But to say that MySQL development has been totally stagnant since 1999 is overstating it by a wide margin. I've worked with mSQL and MySQL since the late 90's and it has improved by leaps and bounds in that time. - pinchduck, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4I think you are right. Even if Sun were to somehow completely kill MySql, there is always Postgres. Sun has done a wonderful job in it's stewardship of Open Office, so I'm willing to give them a pass. I was far more worried when Oracle bought the Inno subsystem, as that is one of the components that made MySql a genuinely useful database and not something slightly better than Access.
- directrix13, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4OK. I don't get it. Sun is probably one of the biggest promoters of free software around (next to the distro makers). They harbour several large and popular free software applications. And they have embraced the free software methodology in a lot of their projects. Why does everybody hate on Sun? Because of their recent actions, Sun has moved waaaay up my list of ethically responsible systems providers.
- Pr0phet, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3Strictly speaking, nothing prevented Sun from donating those patents before now. Except practicality. And while theoretically true that they could position MySQL as a competitor product to Oracle, its more practical not to do so. Oracle+Solaris are a lock in so many large-scale installations its not funny. To start infighting between each other will make for an opening for other large players (Microsoft) to swoop in and make it a fight that no one would want.
- baalzebub, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3since this is Solaris that will be running it = SAMP?
- Stonekeeper, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3MoarSQL
- azbmr, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3Sounds Indian.
- amnezia22, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3Sys admins
- cmdrNacho, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3Since Schwartz has taken over, solaris, and java have both been opened.
Anyways i think mysql is under GPL, and you can't just close it down.
Also prior to the buyout.. mysql has been making it effectively harder to obtain the source code, even though it is available. - smek2, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3Because press releases tend to be full of *****. He said ""I don't expect [closer ties with Java and Solaris] in any way to be at the cost of other popular operating systems." He don't EXPECT, but it could happen. And then it's "DOh, well, what do you want to do about it?"
- goatrandy, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3...For he is the Quizach Haderach.
- sybesis, on 01/18/2008, -0/+3well...think about it again...
Linux Apache Mysql PHP...lamp
Linux Apache iSql PHP = laip
we can just mix the letters... to get laip-lapi-lipa-pali-pila-pail-pial-plia-plai and so on - Pr0phet, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3InnoDB is a GPLed engine. If worse comes to worse, the community would fork it.
- MeatBiProduct, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3For the record I've seen mysql used as ODBC storage as much as I have LAMP stacks.
- xlneoMAXlx, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3My ess cue ell, or My sequel?
- laelfrog, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3No realli! She was Karving her initials øn the LOMP with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law -an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"...
- UKsHaDoW, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3Sqlite tends to be emedded into applications that needs data storage abblities and one user. Mysql is stand alone.
- MeatBiProduct, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3lol you just said SQLLite. Sorry active record and Innodb are essential.
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