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- AsSubtleAsABrik, on 11/16/2008, -51/+567Last time I checked pirated software was free.
And if you aren't going to pay for it, you're still helping Adobe by using their software. If it wasn't for pirating software, Photoshop wouldn't be synonymous with photo editing. - Hobbes24, on 11/17/2008, -8/+266wait wait wait
...photoshop costs money? - loganava, on 11/17/2008, -26/+264GIMP will never compare to Photoshop... if you pirate it or not.
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -18/+206No, I'll keep stealing their *****.
kthxbye! - SethEllis, on 11/17/2008, -11/+137Sorry but have you tried the new version of Photoshop? With it's new features nothing out there comes even remotely close to what Photoshop has to offer right now. Sorry Gimp, but I'd take Photoshop over you any day.
- evilrevolution, on 11/17/2008, -12/+131don't tell me what to do.
- mrigns, on 11/16/2008, -8/+109Free Software as in freedom not as in free beer.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html - charlesray, on 11/17/2008, -8/+93I will gladly give Adobe my money once they quit making Acrobat Reader the biggest piece of ***** software on the planet.
- tattertech, on 11/17/2008, -2/+66If I recall, Adobe's CEO actually admitted as much. Piracy has been key to their success.
- peestandingup, on 11/17/2008, -8/+67Hmm, can Gimp do the things that the new Photoshop, Lightroom & Aperture can do?? Sorry, Gimp is OK. But compared to the alternatives, it sucks.
And frankly I'm tired of hearing about how awesome it is from Linux code dorks that dont know ***** about photography & havent even used the other stuff. Save it. - hoppie, on 11/17/2008, -1/+49Tip: get a job with a company that can afford the newest Photoshop. You may put a copy on your laptop and still be in agreement with the license. Use said laptop for home use. End. of. story.
Not to sound libertarian(http://www.slate.com/id/2202489/), I'm as big an open-source fanboy as anyone is, but honestly GIMP doesn't compare to Photoshop CS4 - it's a ridiculous comparison.
I run windows on my work laptop, but on my home boxes I do use gimp...I just don't take on anything too hefty. That said - GIMP would satisfy the needs of 95% of people who are doing "photo editing" i.e. crop/levels/etc. - jakswa, on 11/17/2008, -4/+52"Why do they do this? They do it because they believe that any software that is not "open source" is bad and evil."
hmm no I dugg you down mostly because you're a pompous dick. - jakswa, on 11/17/2008, -26/+72Nothing wrong with GIMP and Freedom-ness. Dugg.
- mrCdawg, on 11/17/2008, -10/+51this article can't be serious....
- mrigns, on 11/16/2008, -7/+47I think this is the point, if you're professional you won't use GIMP but on the other hand pirating professional software won't make you a professional.
GIMP is enough for every amateur, for every teenager who wants to make some simple images "in his mother's basement". - Gohan5052, on 11/17/2008, -6/+43i was taught on photoshop so thats what i pirate.
- diemunkiesdie, on 11/17/2008, -37/+70GIMP sucks for one simple reason. Its not Photoshop! Also, I can guarantee that 98% of those people who pirate Photoshop have no idea what GIMP is. They have never heard of GIMP, but Photoshop is synonymous with photo editing so even people who only use computers to check their e-mail know what Photoshop is (even if they don't go and pirate it).
- Nosrac, on 11/16/2008, -2/+34Dear DonJuanAussi,
You're silly.
Sincerely,
Digg. - mrigns, on 11/16/2008, -6/+38There is something called conscience, I think you fail to see the difference between Free Software, Open Source Software and gratis software.
For me as an amateur, I don't intend to become a professional or an artist, GIMP or Inkscape respectively completely satisfy my needs, and I don't see the point spending even a little money for applications I could never use to their full potential anyway. And if I got the choice between free as in beer and free as in freedom I choose the latter, just for supporting the cause, because there is something called principles.
I don't need to paint, draw or whatever you may call it, pictures to earn my living so I really couldn't care less if the program I'm using is the best possible solution if it does everything I need and satisfies my idea of principles. - PiRATE7, on 11/17/2008, -2/+33who said anything about art? Oh wait, you did.
You seem to think photoshop is 'art software'. Sure you can use it for that, but photoshop is aimed at other professions, such as graphic and web design.
besides, I am a professional artist, and coral painter does nothing for my photography.... so i stick with photoshop - jakswa, on 11/16/2008, -7/+38Buried for the huge-ass comment. Maybe write your essay somewhere else next time, and link it?
- Jareth86, on 11/17/2008, -1/+31Now when you say "pirate teenagers", are you referring to Caribbean children brought up by various sea worthy scoundrels and lawbreakers, most commonly refereed to as "pirates"?
- badmephisto, on 11/17/2008, -9/+38nooo but photoshop CS4 is pretty awesome!
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -7/+36Gimp's interface is a piece of *****. I'm sure it's powerful and can do almost all that CS3 can do, but you'll never figure out how to do it.
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -4/+31Linux nerds only say GIMP is the best because they can't run Photoshop on Linux.
- iLEZ, on 11/17/2008, -2/+28This is the finest thing I've read on digg for a long time.
DonJuanAussi steps defiant into the Digg saloon, his scarlet cape flapping in the hot American wind filled with dry soil like the flag of the only free intellectual army left in the world. He takes a puff on his exquisite filter-less cigarette, eying the mouth-breathing competition. He adjusts his golden monocle and reaches inside his buttoned up jacket for three pages of finely produced hemp paper onto which his servant has meticulously scribbled DonJuanAussis finely dictated thesis: U guys sux.
He clears his parched throat...
The piano player laughs nervously.
One thousand diggers reach for the thumbs down button... - spect3r, on 11/17/2008, -3/+27Paint.net also does an exceptional job at doing things that ~75% of people use Photoshop for.. check it out (windows only)
http://www.getpaint.net/ - mrigns, on 11/16/2008, -3/+26GIMP remains the first choice if you can a) spend no money and don't want to get it illegally and b) for ideological reasons.
Or do you think it is right to steal software just because the free alternatives are inferior? Not everyone has the money to spend a fortune for software they don't need in the first place. - inactive, on 11/17/2008, -1/+24I agree, pirating photoshop is just punishment for all the ***** they do with acrobat reader
- ExRe, on 11/17/2008, -3/+26There is definitely worse software out there than adobe reader. Try anything made by Apple for Windows to start.
- infernal6, on 11/17/2008, -0/+22Wrong. PS CS4 > CS3 > etc. etc. Gimp ~ Photoshop 7 IMO
- talkingwires, on 11/17/2008, -7/+28Again with the "GIMP is a drop-in replacement for Photoshop" argument? The people that make this argument are not professionals, and to be frank, are talking out of their ass. Off the top of my head, GIMP is missing the following mission-critical features: adjustment layers, layer sets, the History palette, decent SVG support, Bridge, and high color support. Then there's the bizarro interface whose giant buttons and wide borders take up more screen real estate than the file you're working on.
But the two biggest things it is CMYK support and color calibration support. You can't honestly tell me that you do anything in a professional environment without those two, can you? What do you do? Create you stuff in GIMP, convert it to CMYK with Photoshop, redo everything because you color space changed, and then send it to the printers a dozen or more times until the color looks "close"?
You can tell where the GIMP truly belongs by looking at its color palette. You won't find anything to enter a Pantone code, but it's got the HTML hex for the color! - crash013, on 11/17/2008, -3/+24***** this! I'm going to pirate 2 copies of Adobe Photoshop CS4 because of this story.
- Onideus, on 11/17/2008, -0/+20When did you stop taking your meds again?
- stinieroo, on 11/17/2008, -7/+26I would say that one of the benefits to attending college is buying software at education prices.
- HappyScrappy, on 11/17/2008, -5/+24I've tried to use the gimp. It's not nearly as good as Photoshop. And the UI is awful. Yow.
- FriedTurkey, on 11/17/2008, -2/+21Actually I downloaded GIMP the other day from not using it in like a couple of years and it is actually easy to use now. It looks like they realized they should make their stuff more like Photoshop and I am glad they did. Previously the menus and setup was confusing to say it mildly. I just downloaded it because I needed to edit a photo real fast but I am keeping it on there until I run into something I need out of Photoshop. Give GIMP another look!
- DeathRay2K, on 11/17/2008, -12/+30The Gimp sucks so much... Thank god for student discounts, I don't even have to pirate Photoshop!
- My571k, on 11/17/2008, -2/+20Fact: If you're already familiar with Photoshop, and you start doing professional image manipulation, you'd buy Photoshop. Why would you want to switch over to something else?
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -9/+26I pirate Free Software too. I illegally upload the source code on bittorrent.
- mrigns, on 11/16/2008, -2/+19I know what Public Domain is and like you said it's more generous than the GPL but I'm a FLOSS enthusiast and don't care about Public Domain and I personally think it's inferior.
You have yet to give me a good reason why someone should use another application as an amateur. - jakswa, on 11/17/2008, -0/+17...yikes. you make me laugh. in a scared-for-your-old-generation kind of way. you just called us fanatics, yet you've posted the most of anyone on this article, and have portrayed yourself the most fanatical (or maybe insecure?) of anyone with some of your HUGE comments and obvious need to argument this further... all on Digg? C'mon. Get a life.
You're a dying breed, closed-source fanatic. - Spr0k3t, on 11/17/2008, -15/+31@DonJuanAussi
Not to feed a troll or anything, I just have a very serious question I haven't seen answered just yet (albeit it's been answered by many others). Why would someone who is perfectly content with the features and toolset of Gimp want to use anything else? Even if the use of alternate software meant piracy to use the software for free as in beer. What if a person used Photoshop and thought it to be complete overkill and went to Gimp instead? Is there anything wrong in that? Just remember that in a world of professional art, "clear is the new black!" - smotpoker, on 11/16/2008, -2/+18"They have no arguments other than GIMP is FOSS so by default it is the best"
Perhaps they realize arguing with someone who starts out making inaccurate/blanket statements such as "GIMP is like photoshop minus EVERYTHING" is futile. The only arguments you made against are completely vague and/or subjective such as: "GIMP isn't what the professionals use"
What professionals? And who gives a *****? That is like saying people shouldn't use IE because "the professionals" don't. You have to make some solid arguments for such ambiguous arguments to even slightly debatable or effective. Maybe professional IT people do not use it and it may not have all the same features as firefox but there are plenty of other professionals who use it daily to do whatever work their job requires and it is fine for them.
There are plenty of "professionals" that use Windows all day every day but it is, and has been for at least 10 years, technologically inferior to any other desktop, server and embedded OS in existence. The fact that "professionals" do or don't use something has little bearing on the quality or capabilities of it. - smotpoker, on 11/17/2008, -5/+21By that logic, I could deduce that you must suck because you aren't a superhot linux-nerd girl of my dreams and 99.9999999% of people don't know you.
However, I doubt that is a very fair or accurate metric of quality. Rather, I will conclude that you suck because your nick implies a hostile disposition and your inability to state a logical thesis or supporting arguments indicate mental faculties incapable of comprehending how much ignorance such as yours negatively influences/impacts society. - jeremymccurdy, on 11/17/2008, -4/+20I'd use GIMP if it didn't have a terrible UI. Personally I'm a bigger fan of Paint Shop Pro than Photoshop, but I use both.
- fred65, on 11/17/2008, -4/+20I wish there was a decent alternative to Lightroom, the interface and the way it works is very nice...
- Callidus, on 11/17/2008, -1/+16Photoshop CS4 is $300 at education pricing, while MSRP is $1000.
Needless to say, for a college student $300 is still a mild assraping. - digggggggggg, on 11/17/2008, -1/+16Inkscape is great and all, but it's not an illustrator replacement by far. It's biggest stumbling block? The user interface. I don't think I've ever seen a less intuitive gradient editor.
- aimhelix, on 11/17/2008, -1/+16I'm a designer. Trust me, had I never pirated Photoshop ten years ago, I never would have landed in the design field because I simply wouldn't not have not been able to afford it. Sure, I can use it when I get to school, but having such an early start gave me a clear advantage over other students in college. Now I'm a pro and I've spent thousands on Adobe's software. I'm giving back now. If this is their policy, so be it and I owe them at least my discovery of my career.
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