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- shad0walker, on 12/15/2007, -3/+74I seem to remember from Microsoft's 'Get the facts' campaign that Linux couldn't be anywhere near stable enough for something like this. Oh wait, I forgot not to believe anything Microsoft says.
- keyo, on 12/15/2007, -3/+37But-but...the Highly Reliable Times said....
- SlimFastForYou, on 12/15/2007, -2/+23True, but shad0walker's point still remains. Microsoft's "Get the Facts" campaign would have you believe Linux is inferior to Windows in almost every way, and is barely able to meet business computing needs. The fact that the most important stock exchange in the world is now powered by Linux serves as a reality check on Microsoft's propaganda.
- SlimFastForYou, on 12/15/2007, -0/+19~The Highly Reliable Times has this Highly Reliable Rhyme~
~Highly Reliably Wrong 100% of the Time~ - chrispr, on 12/15/2007, -1/+19Before everyone flags this as a huge victory for Linux, realize that the NYSE does not run solely Windows. Infact, it runs on a combination of Windows, Unix, and Solaris stations.
This wasn't about retracting from the Microsoft empire, it was about expanding independence from a single company like IBM or Sun. Linux allows them to do this. - BrainInAJar, on 12/15/2007, -1/+13Minor correction. Solaris /is/ UNIX, no matter what definition of "UNIX" you choose to use ( heritage, look & feel, or OpenGroup certification )
- 5lack3r, on 12/15/2007, -2/+13It's nice to see lil' Linux all grow'd up and picking on its older (slightly growth stunted) brother.
- jy802, on 12/15/2007, -6/+16Great!!!
- jemka, on 12/15/2007, -2/+12I love hearing news like this.
- stockjones, on 12/15/2007, -0/+9Its more a story about the victory of linux over crazy expensive proprietary unix systems. The whole "unix has 20 years of history behind it" comments just dont hold weight anymore. Unix hardware in itself is so outrageously expensive. One set of ram for a unix system can cost 10,000 or more. Its insane.
- z0mbie2099, on 12/15/2007, -7/+15So MS... What now bitches!?
- Yarkz, on 12/15/2007, -5/+13I wish we could get someone from microsoft to come here and try to explain how doing this would not be beneficial. So much liez!
- Fatcheeseguy, on 12/15/2007, -3/+11Instead of the blue screen of death that might appear on a stock exchange screen, I'd like to see the Linux penguin instead.
- stockjones, on 12/15/2007, -4/+12This really has nothing to do with windows. Its more about a victory of Linux over Unix.
- hamilton456, on 12/15/2007, -2/+10So, do you think the world's major cash and derivatives exchanges would run their mssion critical trading engines on Windows !?
I don't think MS see this as their natural space, so you comment is very odd. - stikkitjim, on 12/15/2007, -2/+10Having worked in an investment bank, one site in particular had 2500 Red Hat Enterprise Linux and 1700 Solaris installations. In these markets, people who put Windows on these mega critical services are seen purley as amateurs. For starters, you can't have a full real time system based on windows - where linux and BSD kernals can be configered to do exactly that.
For those who pimp the windows server environment - I can only say thank you. (without meaning to sound like a jerk) You are keeping me in work from shoddy systems, and moving them to nix is always a winner.
Also.. for the "Eh, no wonder the stock market has been losing points...." comment, major back office systems in banks have NEVER been windows. (front office, windows and office, .NET and VBA are very popular for desktop support purposes). It's always been HPUX, RHEL and Solaris. - rmd34, on 12/15/2007, -1/+8More appropriately... Linux *continues* to excel in the server market.
- oobuntu, on 12/15/2007, -0/+7No mention of the distro they are using - RHEL maybe?
- riah, on 12/15/2007, -0/+5Except they were using Unix before :p
- bmartin, on 12/15/2007, -3/+8In other news, the London Stock Exchange's servers were down-and-out for 40 minutes recently.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=472 - bardamuclichy, on 12/15/2007, -2/+7Well hey, I will admit that a lot of SMB consultants are total tools. Bunch of carpet baggers, 1 man shop low ballers, and relics from the mom/pop days. Lots of sales and marketing fluff, little technical skill. Unfortunately it's easy for them to push MS solutions... MS practically does it for them. Server stability? Heh, more revenue!
Anything else out there like Clark Connect on the linux front? SMB consultants need specialized distributions aimed at their market sector. The days of 'workstation os' and 'server os' are coming to a close. Microsoft is doing so well with SBS, they're coming out with essentially a medium business server package too. - oobuntu, on 12/15/2007, -0/+4welcome to the blocklist troll; momshizzlesucks
- Skooma714, on 12/15/2007, -0/+4RTFA, they were running Unix before.
- Rinnt, on 12/15/2007, -0/+4C'mon people, he was kidding. Granted, good joke for the wrong OS, but don't be so religious and serious =)
- kickme2004, on 12/15/2007, -4/+8It was a nice win for HP.
- stockjones, on 12/15/2007, -0/+3Good article. Not so much because of the comments about the move from big expensive proprietary unix systems to linux, but the comments on virtualisation. We are evaluating virtualisation for some stuff but we are always concerned about the performance hit and overhead. The story points out noticeable slow down and decrease in throughput with virtualisation.
- winmywii, on 12/15/2007, -1/+4I think they used the stock exchange in the SQL server ads with the batteries. Where they have the SQL server batteries in all theses buildings. I saw them in a few magazines, but didn't find any online.
- FutureGuy, on 12/15/2007, -0/+3Sorry to burst your bubble
"The NYSE's shift toward Linux and x86-based hardware illustrates why analyst firm Gartner is predicting a slight decline in Unix server revenues over the next five years. In comparison, Gartner forecasts strong sales growth for both Windows and Linux servers. " This is from the article, if anything is getting replaced its Unix. - BrainInAJar, on 12/15/2007, -1/+4I wonder what exactly the deployment looks like.
The article also says they're running NonStop on Integrity as well as some HP-UX and a significant amount of Solaris. ( curiously no VMS, which surprised me )
Anyone know if this is just a test deployment or if they're kicking some stuff out? From what I can tell they're just adding a new system on top of the old infrastructure. - zomgflamer, on 12/15/2007, -4/+7Damn now the Russian hackers I pay to hack the windooooz to manipulate the stock market are useless!!! Damn you Penguin!!!!!!!
- inactive, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2UK Became stupidier than Mr.Beans, They started using Windows in their new naval fleet. I don't know why but UK'ers seams to lick Mr.Bill gates arm where ever he visits them.
- Skooma714, on 12/15/2007, -0/+2I would think they were still running COBOL and FORTRAN mainframes.
- FutureGuy, on 12/15/2007, -1/+3NYSE has a simillar massive outage recently (go google it), and they used to run Unix/Linux.
- rotten777, on 12/15/2007, -2/+4Same. I'm so used to hearing about how Europe and Asia have embraced Linux. Seeing how Microsoft is basically tickling the scrotum of the U.S. government and vice versa, we never hear about it here.
- Cupantae, on 12/15/2007, -0/+1It doesn't seem to be nearly reliable enough for any newsagents to stock it. I guess they can't compete with the level of accuracy in The Weekly World News
- monikerd, on 12/15/2007, -3/+4It's not a victory, it's an oppertunity and a test for linux. Linux still is the new kid on the block compared to many of those systems. And it's development methodology is somewhat criticized.
(windows is not part of this discussion fellas, linux is a unix clone.) - GMorgan, on 12/15/2007, -0/+1Lack of VMS is surprising. It beats even Unix in the stability stakes.
- bmartin, on 12/15/2007, -2/+3There's still the London Stock Exchange... they run Windows on HP hardware, according to this article about it recently crashing for 40 minutes: http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=472
- Skooma714, on 12/15/2007, -0/+1Oh here we go, the flamewars and arguments of the mid to late 80s begin anew.
- inactive, on 12/16/2007, -0/+1Are you joking?
- madrona, on 12/15/2007, -0/+1Could also be SLES, particularly if they were looking for something that would work well with the MSFT portions of their system. Very interesting that they didn't mention the distro...
- RayPellecchia, on 12/25/2007, -0/+0My compliments on your post. If you or your readers would like to see more about the NYSE Hybrid Market, I run a blog for NYSE Euronext at http://exchanges.nyse.com
Thanks and keep on blogging! - bardamuclichy, on 12/15/2007, -6/+6First off, I've been using Linux since the mid 90's.
Second, I'm a computer consultant, with extensive experience, schooling, and certifications, thankyou.
Here's the meat:
What's up with Linux/open source advocates on the SMB front? You guys know why IIS is gaining on Apache right? Small Business Server 2003. It's friggin everywhere now. Small companies that used to be on a dinky LAN have moved on to servers. They dropped Outlook Express and went to Outlook/Exchange. Mom and Pop computer shops are dying and being replaced with consultants left and right. Linux is good.. it's great. But I can only push it as a gateway/firewall or a NAS. Microsoft FUD has suceeded with small buisness owners. Mention Linux and you're some kind of deviant hacker trying to swipe their financial info.
So yeah, maybe this news will help the reputation of Linux. But seriously, what's driving the growth in the IT consultant market right now is SMB. And Microsoft is all over SMB. That's the plain truth. - shark615, on 12/15/2007, -3/+3Bmartin you ***** idiot that had nothing to do with the OS platform but was a hardware connectivity issue or something stupid like that. If you are going to bash windows at least do so from a foundation of fact,
in the meantime feel free to go play on the highway - inactive, on 12/16/2007, -1/+1They take everything in fantasy and personally, dont worry.
- FutureGuy, on 12/18/2007, -1/+1It all depends on the situation, if you are running unix apps you are better of porting to linux for a quick port. Keep in mind that windows is growing faster then the market is, so it has to be replacing something.
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- ssawant123, on 01/17/2008, -0/+0Suneel Sawant, founder of Software International Inc.
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